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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:09 AM Original message |
Clinton, Edwards talk of limiting debate Kucinich Camp Outraged (2 articles) |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hate to say it, but that's the point of a campaign. Limit the debate, frame the issues, and |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Dennis is finding a way. |
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stressfulreality (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
61. which is a good thing, but... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Why don't we just have you decide on who should debate and what issues should be discussed? |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Where do I say that a thid party should decide what issues and who to debate? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Limit the Debate? That is not what should happen at this stage |
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november3rd (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Uhh.... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. It used to be that debate was limited to those with at least 15% public support. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
121. Don't hate it when it's the truth |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah can't have candidates there that tell the truth after all. nt |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Give us, the voters equal opportunity to see ALL of the candidates and let US decide who |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. well |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Well .... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I agree, the more the merrier for a while -- realistically though it is gonna come down to Clinton, |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. "Crackpots" a bit strong don't you think? |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Clark had more of a chance than some of these guys |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
82. That's A Pretty Big Assumption You Make |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. How well was Bill Clinton polling early in his campaign? |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. If Gravel, Kucinich or Dodd |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Oof, bad typo: "I'm now saying" should have been "I'm NOT saying." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Well only the corporate-approve candidates are realistic. |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Somehow, I always think of the candidates with "bad" hair as being MORE serious. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Yeah, Lincoln had bad hair,too. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. Yep after all, how can we keep our government a government |
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5X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. cheney? that you? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
68. Thank goodness YOU don't run the democratic process. |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
78. It's sad, but I agree |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Since I lean towards Biden, it is important to some of us that |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
79. You lean towards Biden? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. The polls are responding to the fact that the mainstream media |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. Popularity doesn't run the democratic process. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
112. Yep |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
80. No. At this point the polls don't count. The people need to be able to hear from |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
102. The opportunity has been given. There have been SEVERAL debates with ALL candidates. |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. I finally looked at the video this morning |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
96. Not sure Edwards should get the lion's share of the boos |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. "They were caught by Fox News microphones ..." |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Bad microphones, bad, bad microphones. They made them say those things. |
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NavyDavy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. it looks like some supporters of dennis are willing to believe |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. And haters of Fox don't believe their own eyes and ears. Did you see the video? |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I've watched the video, and I still am not |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
55. dang! The ABC cameras are lying too! Seems like the champion of the little guy |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. "haters of Fox"? Wow, you make it sound like they're somehow NOT worthy of contempt. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks you Dennis Kucinich for fighting. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
19. Why did Kucinich assume he was one of the non-'serious' candidates they were talking about? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Because if you look |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. he was being snarky |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
71. That's the main problem - it's not progressive. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Reagan babies? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
97. It doesn't matter who they meant. They made a mistake and he hit 'em both hard. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
22. just business as usual.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I'm surprised at Edwards. So much for that "two Americas" stuff. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. No reason to be surprised. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm signing up with DK's campaign today. You're right. n/t |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Well said n/t |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. as trivial as it was, edwards lost me with the traveling stylist.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I tried to ignore the haircut. In fact, I usually hang out until |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. You are drinking Repig swill |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. it's the hypocrisy.. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Issues? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. hypocrisy is the issue |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #76 |
94. So... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. so... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
113. Not just repug swill |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Dennis Kucinich brings too much to the table. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
29. I hope they realize they just lost votes |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
35. Funny that |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
38. This is the Primary season, no one has been annointed, yet - nt |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. Serious.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
40. If I was Hillary, I would want to silence Dennis K's voice too. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. Hear, hear. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
110. I wish that I could "recommend" an individual post, because I would |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
114. HEAR, HEAR! (n/t) |
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NastyDiaper (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
41. They should just crown themselves and have a tea party already. nt |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
44. last straw for me re Edwards--I'd been considering him |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
98. This was a real stab in the back by Edwards, who was quite friendly to Kucinich in '04 |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
45. I don't blame Edwards or Clinton for trying to limit the number of people on the podium. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I'd go for eliminating Gravel |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Will you shoot him, poison him or blow him up? Just checking - as I love him. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. Kucinich has been stealing the applause. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. He's the only one getting my money these days. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
89. It's Kucinich All The Way... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
49. During the 2006 election season, Hillary refused to debate Jonathan Tasini |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. That's the key |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Realistically the average American will never see a primary debate. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
115. That's why OUR AIRWAVES |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. She was asking people to vote for her in November - before the primary. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. Wow lots of Republicans posting on DU now? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. That's funny. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. So your position is that Fox is lying? Should Hillary give back Rupert Murdocks donation and |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. ahahahahahah |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. PWNED! |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. FoxNews considers Kucinich to be one of their favorite pets. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Did Rupert donate money to him also? I hadn't heard. Who holds the Fox appearence record? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Naaahhhh Kucinich just takes his money from taxpayers in the form of matching funds |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. It's nice to see that someone actually believes in public financing of elections. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
116. Ooooooooh, Nasty Kucinich |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Murdoch "has" supported Dem Noms, Gore, Kerry, + Obama. D. Feinstien, T Kennedy |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Man, I love irony. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
99. But this was a classic Fox hit peice: it's one thing to learn about candidate strategy.... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Did you consider that it's in Fox's business interests to have a contentious field? |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
109. I s there lots of Republican money going into some democrats pockets |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Why the hell not? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. Wow, they don't fully believe in the democratic process. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
70. what a tempest in a teapot |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
86. The next election is rigged anyway.... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
88. Po Po Dennis....He only got |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:00 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I agree completely. Shady and underhanded deals are not made in public a few feet away from the |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I'm sorry but I heard the tape its pretty self evident what they are doing |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Corection: Shady, underhanded deals SHOULD NOT be made in public or by a mic |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
92. Big Money trumps little money |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Big money being influential is news? That's the oldest rule in the book. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. It's a rule that needs to be done away with. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. It's not arbitrary. What IS arbitrary is allowing anyone with enough $$$ |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. That rule, I believe is for the general election - not the primary elections... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 05:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
119. Oh, it's arbitrary, all right. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Whether Only Those Potential Candidates For The Democratic Nomination.... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. So your vote is to do away with MY candidate |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
100. My comment posted on edwards blog: |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
106. "We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group." Like he's the boss? |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
120. I think this is more about Obama than anything else... |
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