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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:24 PM
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Rebranding Bush* as Man of Peace
The White House has retreated from its doctrine of regime change and pre-emptive military action and is returning to traditional diplomacy in an effort to repackage George Bush as a president for peace.

(snip)

The signs of a thaw in US relations with these and other countries point to a different approach emerging in Washington. It emphasises cooperation, dialogue and diplomacy in place of the policies that have characterised the Bush administration's thinking to date. While Mr Bush publicly asserts Washington's right to defend its interests by any means, in practice he is increasingly pursuing a collaborative approach.

"There is a definite shift in US policy in everything but words," said Joseph Cirincione, an arms control expert. "The official doctrine has not changed but all our actions have, and the result is a shift away from military action towards diplomatic engagement. First with Iran, then with Libya and now with North Korea, we see a much greater effort to affect changes in regime behaviour rather than changes of regime."

more…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1115330,00.html
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:25 PM
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1. Pass me a bucket, please!!!
:puke:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:27 PM
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2. ::passes bucket::
By the way, this is expected
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:29 PM
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3. You guys filled the bucket!
Now what am I supposed to use?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:31 PM
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5. Let me have that bucket when you're done.
I wish I hadn't eaten before I read this.

:puke:
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:47 PM
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61. Yep...
time to go back to the middle...

::looks around...nope, no one is looking::

BLAH!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:30 PM
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4. Make that two buckets!
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 11:41 PM by sfg25
:puke:

Call the mass murderer anything you want WH jerks. I sure as hell won't forget.

Oh ya, I don't think one can repackage shit. It will smell like shit no matter what.
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:58 AM
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26. Re-Inventing himself, again....
here we go again, another reinvention, funny how the media used that against Al Gore but now it is considered a great thing...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:33 AM
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33. Called "Polishin' a Turd" where I come from. n/t
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 01:43 PM
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51. Where I come from, 54
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 01:44 PM by fed2dneck
They call it "repackaging a log of shit and calling it a chocolate bar."
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:26 PM
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57. Ewwww, YUK
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 07:14 AM
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30. More buckets! Hurry!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:08 AM
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43. A fifty five gallon barrel will work for a little while!
Call the Red Cross is nation is about to become sick.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:02 PM
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59. buckets just aren't sufficient, folks ...
I was going to suggest we barf directly into a dumpster, but they aren't making them big enough!


But seriously, THIS is what Hightower and Ivins and all the Texas people were warning us about. A year before the election, Bush puts on his sweet-and-innocent costume, and everybody who has a short memory or is overly forgiving ("See, it looks like he's learned his lesson and is a Better Human Being!") gets sucked into voting for him.

He did it in Texas, and he's going to try to do it again on the national scale. Action stations!

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:32 PM
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6. What's next - rebranding Hitler as a man of tolerance?
Please. A lying murderous traitor, is a lying murderous traitor, is a lying murderous traitor. The END.

To the Hague with the monkey and his crew!

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:35 PM
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8. Amen to that.
So, because he has finished - FOR THE TIME BEING - his dictatorial impulses to attack the rest of the world based on just his hunches and lies, we should all just forget it?

NEVER!

I want to see this piece of garbage in prison.

And they wonder why we're angry!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:58 PM
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63. How much of the lying to the faces of Americans is it gonna take....
to wake people up????????

This is unbelievable!!!!

Does America want to be scammed 1001 times over???

Come on!!!
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flatlandr Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:48 PM
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65. Not to disparage the Reich's excellently managed administration
with too broad a brush, correct? Demons have their usefulness, after all -- but then the business of building bloodlines' placement in eternity continues on.

"Argentina -- Bariloche as Hitler & Eva Braun's Final Refuge" from Scott Corrales IHU Las Ultimas Noticias (Santiago de Chile) Jan 3 04/ In his book "Bariloche Nazi-Guía Turística", which shall go on sale next week, Basti reproduces documents, affidavits, photographs and blueprints aimed at steering the reader (or visitor) to the sites that sheltered Hitler... arguing that the corpses of Hitler and his lover were never found, as is the case with other Nazis who allegedly committed suicide. "The only official story is the report made General Zhukov (commander of the Soviet army that occupied Berlin) to the Kremlin, stating that Hitler and several Nazi leaders had escaped, presumably to Spain or Argentina, and this is what Stalin advised the U.S. government," he retorted.
http://www.rense.com/general47/refuge.htm
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:33 PM
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7. They do this the day after he returns from a hunt as our soldiers
are dying in an unjustified invasion of a sovereign country?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:38 PM
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9. No buckets?!? WTF! Out the window then!
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 11:39 PM by mouse7
Look out below. Pardon me. 'Scuse Me.
:puke:
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Holly Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:45 PM
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12. soooo dizzy
my head's spinning....didn't make to the window....all over the floor:puke:
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. No buckets . . .


TYY :puke:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:41 PM
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10. Rebranding Col. Sanders as a vegetarian!
Please stop, can't breathe...
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:42 PM
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11. No this is funny!
Peeing my pants funny. The question is how many morons will fall for it?
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:46 PM
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13. Too many morons will fall for it, unfortunately. n/t
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:46 PM
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14. This Will Work ...
and the people will follow.

As sick as this story makes me, and it does, for too many in USA the Shrub is a hero. The "High Noon" analogy plays well and sells.

Come November the GOP will use every tactic and gambit Orwell and Goebbels ever thought of and more. Don't be surprised when they hint and suggest the Shrub is being considered for the Nobel Peace prize.

"Tell a lie often enough and the people will believe it."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. AGAIN?
twice he has missed on it...

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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:35 AM
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24. Bush was considered for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2003
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 04:37 AM by mrdmk
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86608,00.html

<snip>
A Norwegian parliamentarian nominated President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair for the Nobel Peace Prize (search) on Thursday, praising them for winning the war in Iraq.
<snip>

To late! :hurts:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:53 PM
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17. the only people who will buy
this bullshit are brain dead republican ass licking morans...
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:03 AM
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18. G.W. is
a "peace" of shit.
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:32 AM
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19. Hey! Henry Kissinger...
won the Nobel Peace Prize. :puke:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:03 AM
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23. If it worked for Henry...
...who slew on a much greater scale, then it can certainly work for Bush.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:46 AM
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20. OMG, so funny!!!
I laughed my way down the posts. Especially funny was TeeY's photo.

Even the title of this article is funny (and I thought LBN was supposed to be cut-and-dried!).

Notice the words "rebranding", which brings to mind the cows which are such a thorn in Bush's side lately. Maybe we should brand Bush on his butt as the "Piece-maker". It just sounds so sleazy, as if all it takes is to rebrand a dude, and he's a 'changed' man.

Next, notice the word "repackage" Bush as a man of peace. Again, we have the idea of a finished product, which is unsatisfactory. Apparently, we're hoping that a new wrapper will do the trick, to make it more palatable. Notice the item inside the package is unchanged, just the new package is.

True words spoken, KS!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:58 AM
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21. Poodle and chimp having weekly video conferences
Tony: Arf, arf. (pant, pant)
* : Eek, eek (eats banana, throws peel at screen)

The peace of the world is now in safe hands.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:01 AM
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22. okay all buckets accounted for
:puke:
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:41 AM
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25. When Mr. Bush Jr. was (*) into office
A co-worker came in ranting this man will have us in a war within six months. Dam if he was not right.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:29 AM
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27. Bush, America's Man of Peace
The worst pResident in American History is also the Peace President. It would take a right-wing psychopath to believe it.

{I really covet that restaurant vomit photo from TeeYiYi. It really connects with this article.)




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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:35 AM
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28. Horseshit again
and when my stepson goes to Iraq for what??????????????????????? Not a goddamned thing, Bucko. Not a goddamned thing.
More Propoganda from the F*cking SPIN machine.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:44 AM
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29. Bush is the great deceiver.
He is the "one".
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:48 AM
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39. "Clear Skies""Healthy Forrests""Man of Peace"
More of the same-portray things exactly opposite of how they are and what you are doing.

This must have tested well in their focus groups.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 07:32 AM
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31. What a load of Spin
The article seems to have been written by somebody wanting to show that Phoney B:liar actually has a moderating influence. Sadly the article just does not wash.

If Bush isn't to keen on more wars at the moment, it might be simply because US/UK military power is overstretched. Needlessly overstretched to boot.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 02:50 AM
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34. Rove said no more wars in '04
Rove stopped the neocons because of backlash from Iraq.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 01:48 PM
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52. What Rove doesn't mention...
is that he wants to invade Syria in 2005!

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Bush lost and refused to vacate the White House--yes, I'm talking about home invasion here!
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 04:42 PM
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54. This would be interesting
Mr. Bush Jr. the uniter brings U.S.A. to a civil war. :tinfoilhat:

I really do pray it does not come to this.
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:21 AM
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32. my first read this AM and I'm sick for the day...
I could stomach it if I knew that 80% of the US population wouldn't fall for this. But let's see, memory span shortened to 3 months due to fluoridation and rising mercury levels, so hey, this will be TRUTH by Selection day.

Got to run -- ready to hurl again...
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 03:20 AM
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35. Re: Rebrandishing Bush as a Man of Peace

I can imaging upon reading that the "White House has retreated from its doctrine of regime change and pre-emptive military action and is returning to traditional diplomacy" the neo-cons got little nausiated too.



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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:27 AM
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36. I also heard the term "compassionate conservative" put forward
the other day on the radio. I guess the right-wing press is in full campaign mode now until November. The amount of BS will be deep.

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:48 AM
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38. I would like to see our candidates make a TV commercial
with clips of * using the phrase "compassionate conservative." Interspered with these clips would be photos of soldiers returning wounded from the war, jobless people, children "left behind", all white males (i.e., no minorities or women) witnessing bill signing or sitting around a power table, etc.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:29 PM
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60. And end it with "Fool me once,...
shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. Yes, Mr. President, we CAN get that one right!!!"
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:44 AM
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37. Our most bloodthirsty
regime in history is now making themselves out to be peacemakers. One would think this makeover would be impossible to pull off, but that would require a free press and an informed public. Sadly, they will probably get away with this new propaganda.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:50 AM
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40. I think he has shown his hand and over extended the military
He has no big stick left so he has to now ask others nicely to do what he wants.

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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:04 AM
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41. Perhaps I am naiive...
But maybe the polls really are crap and the W administration is realizing they are going to lose big time in 2004. Being the unethical slime buckets they are, they are adjusting their image to the kinder gentler slime buckets in order to gain the votes needed to win a close election (I don't think they (W admin) were at all swayed by Pat Robertson's EMAIL or whatever with God)
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:09 AM
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44. bob dylan
"I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace."


(not all lyrics apply)
http://bobdylan.com/songs/peace.html


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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:23 AM
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48. lol......that song came to my mind also.
:D
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 02:06 PM
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53. Adjusting their image is certainly not a naiive notion,...
,...particularly when you consider that they are up to doing just about anything to maintain power. I just hope that others will do what Bush couldn't even correctly state and REMEMBER "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.",...would make a remarkable motto (mantra :) ),...doncha' think?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:07 AM
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42. The Chimpster has waaaay too many public statements to prove...
...what he really thinks about diplomacy.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:38 AM
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45. Peace, Love, Dove
Too close to the elections. Can you remember the pres. telling the parties of the Israel/Palestine debacle that he was going to work on the road map, but if they waited to long, the elections would come and his focus would be on that. Actually he was speaking as "The Chosen" after God told him to take out Saddam and Iraq.
Now his operations are in deep cover or covert so as to appear to be the benevolent king. Don't trust this machine, because if and when he were to be elected, we can count on Syria or another country to be on the hit list.
If you've seen Perle's latest, he would have B*sh take out France or Saudi Arabia.
His diplomatic chances have long expired and we should move on and get a real representative for the people of America. Peaceful/non-warlike- you know what I mean.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:45 AM
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46. Marketing
I thought this Adminstration thought the fall was the best time to push a new product? I guess they thought the fall would be too late and now decided winter must work.
I wish someone would show the 6,000 plus injured in Iraq but that wouldn't "sell" the man of peace thing too well.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:16 AM
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47. Of course he is.
It says, right in the playbook (aka 1984) that "Ignorance is Peace"
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:57 AM
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49. It's WAAAAAAAY too late for that...
"Mr Pre-emptive war" will be regarded by historians as a terrible president who failed to effectively fight the war on terror at a critical time in our history.

By pulling resources from the anti-terrorism effort and redeploying them in Iraq - which will be seen as a "vanity" war by historians - Bush has made a drastic blunder. Al Qaeda is regrouping while the brunt of our military continues to be bogged down in Iraq. The perpetual Code Orange (which sounds likely after reading today that air schedules will be disrupted "indefinitely" because of the orange alert) proves that we are no safer than we were before the Iraq war started, or even before 9/11.

But, most importantly, it's now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that, in the prelude to the Iraq war, the Bush administration went to great lengths to circumvent any attempts to resolve the WMD issue peacefully.

They can try to paint him as a peacemaker, but the truth is he's been the most hawkish president... maybe, ever.


Heh... Peacemaker and Pacemaker
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 12:28 PM
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50. I agree....most hawish EVER
He said, "The world is better off without Saddam" and that is now his mantra. No one can deny this, but it's a "bait and switch" which is not the way we do things in this country.....until now.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:15 PM
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55. Rebranding Madonna as Mother Teresa
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:25 PM
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56. Let's invite him to the Crawford Peace House


The Crawford Peace House offers a culturally diverse environment for spiritual growth and intellectual understanding that gives hope to humanity by providing peaceful alternatives to war.


http://www.crawfordpeacehouse.org/index.html
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:56 PM
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58. NOT IN MY LIFETIME!!!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:54 PM
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62. I'm loosing my cookies now!!...........
:puke:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:58 PM
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64. Just wait a few days.
Please, bear in mind that the attention span of the administration keeps shifting. It might soon be time for Bush to give the godless, grasping neo-Gilded Age types their feeding. More tax cuts, anybody?

Seriously, the State Department spokespeople have been prattling on about "the president's vision of two states living side by side in peace and security" (i.e., Israel and Palestine) for a year and repeating those exact words as a mantra and the Middle East is still in its dance: one step forward, two steps back.

I don't trust Bush or his team to have the fortitude to see anything through in peace efforts. Bush is devoid of nuance and sees everybody as either his cut buddy or an enemy, which basically means he can't do negotiations. And Powell is halfway out the door.

So that might help ease the vomiting a bit. We'll see.
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