Swiss deportation policy draws criticism

[demoleft]

Source: AP

GENEVA (AP) -- The campaign poster was blatant in its xenophobic symbolism: Three white sheep kicking out a black sheep over a caption that read "for more security." The message was not from a fringe force in Switzerland's political scene but from its largest party.

The nationalist Swiss People's Party is proposing a deportation policy that anti-racism campaigners say evokes Nazi-era practices. Under the plan, entire families would be expelled if their children are convicted of a violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.

The party is trying to collect the 100,000 signatures needed to force a referendum on the issue. If approved in a referendum, the law would be the only one of its kind in Europe.

"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.



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I would kick them, NAZIonalists, out of Europe. Though I would pity the country who should receive them.

[ohio2007]

1. it takes a village to raise a child..but not a Swiss village

The deportation policy gives a whole new spin to the slogan;
"No child left behind"
;)
...violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.


Why that sounds like three strikes to me but why are they burning on foreigners ?

from the article, seems few Swiss are really complaining about the posters.

[demoleft]

2. He he! Let's wait for a social reaction against this...

Not to be disrespectful, but is it likely to happen a "popular reaction" in Switzerland?!

Have a look at this too on Bulgarian rightists: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2974448

Beautiful, isn't it?

[LeftishBrit]

3. Depressing

'"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.'

So by the same logic they should also punish the parents of ALL young offenders. Something tells me this isn't on the agenda!

[demoleft]

7. "Depressing" is the right word, LeftishBrit. Here's a report on hate crime on the rise in Europe.

Have you had a look at this?

HumanRightsFirst website, a June 2007 report:
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/media/disc/2007/alert/343/index.htm

Depressing, really. Bad wind blowing in Europe these days.

[LeftishBrit]

11. Yes. Always been a problem, but definitely getting worse. Really awful in some places.

[Hope springs eternal]

4. Open borders is not a "right"

If some white person immigrated to South Africa and commited a hate crime, would you not want them expelled? Sounds like the same common sense to me.....

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Did you even read the article? It's not about deporting the criminal, but the entire FAMILY

Does that sound like common sense to you? To punish a whole family for the sins of one member?

[Hope springs eternal]

6. It's not the greatest solution in the world...

But what are you going to do? Send the kid back without his family? Don't think so. I think sending the kids/parents only is best.

[SayWhatYo]

9. You might have a point if the law didn't deport the entire family.

Come on now, even someone who is "tough" on immigration understands this isn't right.

[KingFlorez]

10. The whole idea is insanity

People shouldn't be punished for something another person did, even if they are related. It's not common sense, it's insane.

[happyslug]

17. This also the Policy of Public Housing Authorities in the US

Based on FEDERAL LAW, if one person in a house hold comments a crime, the entire family is evicted. This has been the law in the US for over ten years (upheld by the US Supreme Court). This proposed Swiss law is not that much different from the US law when it comes to people in Public Housing (and the Federal Law applies to US Citizens).

[entanglement]

19. Read the article, moran

[Trillo]

8. Isn't Switzerland a private banking haven?

:tinfoilhat:

[Crayson]

14. what's THAT to do with...?

And by the way, the biggest sector of growth for Swiss banks is Private Banking and Investment Banking IN THE UNITED STATES.
So quit the typical "Swiss Bank with a huge vault somewhere in the Alps" image please. A Swiss bank is probably somewhere around the corner from where you live. They're global brands.
^_^

We also have heavy industrie and specialiced technology, chemical industrie and biotechnology firms and many others, thank you.

And of course we have cows and heidis to show them to the tourists.
^_^

[Crayson]

15. self deleted

[ohio2007]

12. They must be taking notes on the Russian public stand on immigration

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5g6qodduI

Russia wants to remain Russian as
Europe is becomming a war zone of citizens rights vs human rights vs immigrant assimilation rights

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

13. Yadda Yadda

The SVP is trying again...they will (hopefully) get the big NO in the National Vote. Getting 100'000 Signatures is no problem.. winning the vote is a different matter.

Blocher, Mauer and Mörgeli + rest of the ilk are loved by the SVP (which is admittedly too big for my taste) but almost despised by everyone else outside the party.

[Crayson]

16. The SVP (Swiss People Party) explained...

So, let me tell you something about the SVP:

Already the name is outrageous!
They pretend to have the right to speak for all the Swiss people.
They by far DO NOT!
Still they are a major party and form much of the middle-to-right wing of Swiss political landscape.
To their left there is a bit of liberal/economics (about middle) and to their right are the extremist right which operate near illegality and will be forbidden in the near future (but every nation has its nutcases).

Their news adds are ALWAYS provocative!
So, since this party forms much of the right bloc all by itself, it has to generalize.
The can't do a differentiated campaign, A) because most of their voters think only in black/white categories, B) because for half of their voters it wouldn't go far enough and already to far for the other half, because the party has no common ground. Their common ground is the picture of a retro-oriented green lush meadow Switzerland with cows and a smiling sun (childish) while their Boss is a multi-million multi-companies rich guy who made his money with chemics industrie!!
(They remind me of the happy tree friends sometimes)

Solution:
--> They do very VAGUE campaigns that rely mostly on EMOTION and only rarely on facts.
--> They always provocate/exagerate and therefor (with unintended media help) DOMINATE the elections, provocation always is their trump card.
--> They play the FEAR! FEAR! instrument as good as the TERRA! TERRA! players in certain countries.

And finally, let me say:
They are an opposition party, currently with a huge problem and an ongoing investigation about there most popular Federal Council "Christoph Blocher" trying to frame/mob a Federal Judge.

[entanglement]

18. This proposition is utterly shameful, inhuman and reactionary.

Punishing entire families with deportation for the deeds of their children? :wtf:

Also consider that the Swiss fertility rate is 1.44, well below replacement. Their aging population needs productive, younger workers to help maintain their current high living standard. And yet, the morons wallow in xenophobia instead of accepting newcomers.