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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:01 PM
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$94 billion to remove illegals from U.S.
Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, Sept. 13 (UPI) -- The U.S. government estimates it would cost $94 billion to remove the 12 million people thought to be illegally living in the country.

Julie Myers, head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, told a Senate committee Wednesday that the estimate, which she said was based on "very rough calculations," represents the cost of detaining and removing the illegal immigrants, CNN reported Thursday.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/09/13/94_billion_to_remove_illegals_from_us/8596/
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:05 PM
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1. And we'll get that back... how?
They don't even have oil we can squeeze out of them.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:07 PM
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2. Not to mention the total destruction of what's left of America. nt
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:08 PM
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3. Why don't they say, "but really it would cost more"
"However, an ICE spokesman said the figure does not include costs related to finding the illegals and related court costs."

Geez, it's not like these costs are insignificant. They may even been higher than $94 billion!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:10 PM
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6. I wanted to add that bit
But with the entire article being only 4 paragraphs I wasn't sure if I could get away with it.

Thanks for pointing that out!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:25 PM
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10. so the 94B covers gas money?
what a joke.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:08 PM
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4. If we gave the money straight to them, I bet we could get them to leave for just 40 billion. n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:02 AM
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32. LOL! nt
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ThePowerofWill Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:09 PM
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5. Cheaper to keep them!
I guess thats another reason i can add for my support of amnesty.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:11 PM
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7. Hell, I'll do it for half that price.
What a bunch of BS. Stop employing illegal aliens and they will leave. Arrest employers that do.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:43 PM
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39. Stop employing illegal aliens-a common sense solution that the powers that be won't do. nt
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:13 PM
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8. It would be much easier and cheaper just to jail the illegal employers of illegal immigrants. n/t
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:20 PM
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9. I'd prefer that go to healthcare for everyone
Jesus Christ that's a lot of money spent on a problem no one really wants to fix.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:26 PM
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11. nice thought.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:30 PM
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12. And then, when you've ejected the last actual worker from the
country, who is going to replace them?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:52 PM
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13. Big Three Auto Workers
Mortgage company paper shufflers

Ex-Pfizer employees

Old Enron, WorldCom, and Anderson employees.

No lack of talent in this country--just too many crooks spoiling the broth.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:57 PM
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14. I got a better (and cheaper) Idea
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 04:57 PM by Xipe Totec
Let's offer each person that's here illegally, a $5,000 tax-free bonus if they promise to leave the country.

12 million people at $5,000 a head is only 60 billion dollars.

I'm sure many would take the offer and leave. We could end up with 12 million very happy people, instead of 12 million pissed off people.

That would mean 60 billion dollars in exports, since these people would want to purchase some of the American products they've grown acustomed to having.

And we'd still have 34 billion left in the treasury.

:think:
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:49 PM
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26. Your comment about 12 million pissed off people reminded me
of a BBC story I heard a couple of months ago. They were interviewing a French journalist who was talking about the illegal immigration in Europe, primarily Muslims from Turkey and North Africa and that in the US. Europeans worry about their difficulty assimilating immigrants, their attitudes, being "pissed off" in so many words, and the danger that some of them would become terrorists.

He commented on the difference with Hispanic immigrants in the US and the fact that Americans seemed to have none of the same concerns about their immigrants.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:58 PM
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15. They'll just come back after a brief vacation from work nt
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 04:59 PM by ohio2007
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future social worker Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:06 PM
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16. we'll spend that eventually anyway
Nobody is interested in illegal aliens? Umm..do you watch the news? Maybe unemployment would go down a few dollars if at least half of the illegals were gone. How much is America currently spending on unemployment anyway? I'm apt to agree that if the employers were jailed or fined for that matter the hiring would stop and they would leave on their own accord. Food for thought, millions are being spent on Operation Jump Start (troops on the border preventing immigration). How many years until we've spent billions on immigration anyway. And have we crossed the billions threshold on the war yet?
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:09 PM
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18. Welcome To DU
BTW, I was looking at your profile. Why do you believe the Geneva Conventions are such a bad idea?
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future social worker Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:35 PM
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19. I didn't say they were.
I don't think the Geneva Conventions are a bad ideal. I'm simply stating that it effects the way we fight now. I find these rules humane. However, since we're on the subject, Iraq does not follow the Geneva Conventions. How do we win an unfair war?
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:37 PM
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20. By not instigating one in the first place.
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future social worker Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:39 PM
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21. couldn't have stated it better!!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:38 PM
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17. and over 400 billion to remove Iraqis from the earth
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:04 AM
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33. Yeah, I don't see the administration complaining about that. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:52 PM
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43. gee, this mexican thing is deal huh?
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:44 PM
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22. I got ten bucks
and a used school bus. If we all chip in.....:evilgrin:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:51 PM
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23. Why dont they just apply to 94 billion to a minimum wage increase for our citizens
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 06:53 PM by wlucinda
much more beneficial
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:30 PM
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24. How comforting to know that COST is what's keeping them from trying round ups & mass deportations
:sarcasm:

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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:31 PM
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25. YUP! And in Six months
a good majority of them will be back!

Good ol' supply and demand; there is a big demand for cheap labor here in this country, and where there is a demand, there will ALWAYS be a supply!!!

:eyes:
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:25 PM
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27. and worth every penny.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:57 PM
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37. Yeah... right.
:eyes:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:06 PM
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41. Yep. And then some... I'd say a Bargain...
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:57 AM
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45. Are there any Mexicans that should be welcome in the US?
Not illegal immigrants. Not legal truck drivers.

The rule for some here seems to be: "Keep the Mexicans out whether they are legal or illegal. They are too poor (not that there is anything wrong with that) and ruin things for "real Americans"". :banghead:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:34 PM
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28. ah...now it all makes sense...
first you make the money off of slave labor, then you make the money rounding up the slaves.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:48 PM
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29. Bernanke can print $94B.
What the hell, he's already creating billions, so what's a few more?:sarcasm:
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:05 PM
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30. Mexico should pay half the bill. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:38 AM
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31. When you think about it, we're the "illegals" having pretty much stolen all of the land -- !!!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:41 PM
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34. This is as bad as genocide. Destroying families is the new American way.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:43 PM
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35. Google "Operation Endgame"
Halliburton will be happy to accept that $94 billion.
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:55 PM
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36. What Would Be Simpler: Just Fine Companies Hiring Them $1M/Day
I think the US should enforce its own borders.

Deport the illegals, bring the troops home, and deploy them to build and patrol an effective fence.

If the US needs workers, they should be here legally. Americans won't work for what you're paying? Then pay more.

Anything else is grossly hypocritical and a threat to national sovereignty.

A nation that can't enforce its own borders is hardly a nation at all in some ways.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:27 PM
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38. I'd rather spend 94 billion on that than 47 more weeks in Iraq!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:05 PM
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40. money well spent...
we waste more on other things I DON'T support...
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:09 PM
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42. Small price -- fine companies who hire illegals for $100K/illegal
and you end up with a nice surplus
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SirBlackAdder Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:16 AM
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44. Must have been the HALIBURTON bid
Big and small business alike really really want the cheap-for-business-labor.
Enforce the laws, get every one an ID card, they come, they work, they LEAVE. If they OBEY THE LAWS, they get to come back, if they learn English, they can apply for citizenship. Simple. Stop taking my taxes to support your GOP wetdreams in forms of Healthcare ($40 million in Denver for illegal alien births, alone, paid for by YOU. (KUSA channel 9 debate), K-12 schooling, gangs, graffitti, car break ins etc. My old neighborhood is getting trashed from this nonsense. All the older 'hippie' artists have sold and left. No one I know supports Haliburton and the Illegal immigration policies of this administration.

There is no need to deport them all,get them ID'd, get them out when the economy crashes. Its good for poor countries (billions in remissions) and its good American businesses who will get their cheap labor either way, BUT NOT ON MY DIME ANYMORE!!

and btw, it was "12 million" estimated,3 years ago, at 1.5 million a year, 17 million illegals. Add anther 10 million and you just tossed your SSI and medicaid or your kids, out the door.

Massive levels of Illegal immigration is just another GOP wet dream a minority of Democrats keep supporting. China manufacturing is the other. Im waiting for Bush to say that China has no environmental regulations, so why should America, or has he already?
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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:59 PM
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46. They don't need to be removed if
the jobs go away. If the administration would enforce employment laws by fining the employers who hire illegally, the illegal workers would return home when they couldn't find a job. More importantly, no new illegals would come in, since there would be no jobs to draw them.
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