Clemens reportedly named in Mitchell report

[deminks]

Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK - Judgment day arrived for baseball's steroids era, with the Mitchell report set to be released and posted on the Internet for all to see. The first name to emerge Thursday was seven-time Cy Young Award winner Roger Clemens.

ESPN.com reported that Brian McNamee, a former trainer for the Yankees and Clemens, said information he gave Mitchell on supplying the pitcher with steroids is in the report. The Web site, citing an unidentified source close to the trainer, said McNamee told investigators he supplied Clemens with steroids.

Randy Hendricks, Clemens' agent, did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Mitchell's report exposes a "serious drug culture within baseball, from top to bottom," fingers MVPs and All-Stars and calls for beefed-up testing by an outside agency to clean up the game, The Associated Press learned.



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I have no words, only remember that GWB was a part of this era. As an owner, at the very least, he turned his back on it.

[0007]

1. Roger Clemens? That doesn't surprise me in the least. He is one

ballplayer that I've never learned to like or respect.

[Nye Bevan]

3. Doesn't surprise me either

Remember when he threw the broken bat fragment at Mike Piazza? Classic roid-rage.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. And nobody will care because he's white... seriously

I am not prone to attribute racism where it isn't required as an explanation, but I will be shocked if there is a Bonds-level of call for eliminating Clemens' many records, or putting asterisks next to them, or keeping him out of the Hall of Fame.

And Clemens is directly comparable to Bonds. He is distinctly the greatest pitcher of the Bonds era.

[Nye Bevan]

4. Right. And since Mark McGwire is white, nobody cared about his steroid use.

Which is why he was elected to the Hall of Fame in 2007 with an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame_balloting%2C_2007">overwhelming majority of votes.

[Bicoastal]

5. Well, you're forgetting Clemens is not a batter..

Pitchers are well-respected, and in many ways the "leaders" of the team, but that's only when the team is playing in a defensive position.

Psychologically, batters will always be thought of as the biggest heroes in baseball, the biggest stars fo their era, and moreover their records are in direct competition with history...now, when one thinks of the accomplishments of Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron, we are forced to think of the cheating of Barry Bonds.

Still, there will be plenty of controversy in store for Clemens, mark my words...

[midlife_mo_Jo]

10. I agree.

Everyone's heard of Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron, but most folks who aren't baseball fans don't know who the best pitchers of their eras were. Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron were baseball icons, so the fact that Bonds was on steroids bothers people more.

[Kolesar]

12. Ask Floyd Landis

http://www.floydlandis.com/blog/

[msanthrope]

6. Fuck George Mitchell, Screw His Report, and

his witchhunting bullshit.....

Fuck the Republicans for targeting Barry Bonds.

Why do I feel like this is all connected to Bush, anyway??? What is he gunning for the Commisioner's job after he's done wrecking the country in 2009??? Or is this revenge against baseball because they've already told him to go shove it--they aren't going give him the Commisioner's job???

And, I say this as a loyal Yankee fan. FUCK YOU GEORGE STEINBRENNER FOR SUPPORTING REPUBLICANS!!!!

Finally, I say this to every single MLB player--NOW DO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT VOTING REPUBLICAN GOT YOU?????

[MaineDem]

7. Yup, George Mitchell is a good Republican

:eyes:

[msanthrope]

15. I never said George Mitchell was a Repuke, and only someone

completely unfamiliar with how this whole investigation came about would think that I said that---Think I don't remember just how the asshole mananged to help lose the Senate in 1994??? (Harry Reid, pay attention!!)

The only, and I mean only, reason that Pud Selig started this investigation was because of the Republican Congressional investigation of 2004-2005 and the subsequent BALCO grand jury.....essentially, Pud was told that the ONLY reason Congress was going to back off was if MLB cleaned its own house.

This all started because these Repuke fucks decided to go messing with baseball.....and George Mitchell can still go fuck himself and his Red Sox ass.

Jesus, I guess we could have had John Dowd....

[sattahipdeep]

29. Chairman of the Global Board of DLA Piper

George Mitchell resigns as vice chairman of the recently-created 9/11 investigative
commission. Lee Hamilton, an Indiana congressman for more than 30 years and chairman
of the committee which investigated the Iran-Contra affair, is named as his replacement.

Mitchell cites time constraints as his reason for stepping down, but he also
does not want to sever ties with his lawyer-lobbying firm, Piper Rudnick, or reveal
his list of clients.:puke:
Recent clients include the governments of Yemen and the United Arab Emirates. Newsweek, 12/15/2002
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a121102mitchellresigns&scale=0#a121102mitchellresigns

Our People
George J. Mitchell

http://www.dlapiper.com/george_mitchell/


"Buzzy" Krongard

http://www.dlapiper.com/global/media/detail.aspx?news=1793

[Kolesar]

13. Molly Ivins said Shrub failed to get the MLB Commissioner's job, so he went into politics

"What if...?"

[MadHound]

26. Yeah, heaven forbid we actually start holding people responsible for their misdeeds and actions

Po' widdle Barry Bonds, this whole report was cooked up just to get him:eyes:

I was really wondering if any Bonds supporters would dare to show their face, and what their rationalization would be over this report. Sure enough, we have one, who's now claiming that a report from a party chaired by a Democrat is some sort of Republican plot:eyes:

Can this sort of rationalization get any more pathetic. Sadly, yes, yes it can.

[msanthrope]

27. Exactly the same rationalization used to justify Ken Starr---

Misdeeds??? Misdeeds??? What kind of panty-sniffing bullshit is this??? We investigate people and publicly name them because of "misdeeds?" How Puritan of you.....

Who the fuck are you to hold Barry Bonds 'responsible' for anything????

What the hell business is it of yours or mine what substances any of these players took? If they committed crimes, then it's up to the government, not some friggin' Senate washout to investigate.

As for Barry, I've yet to have anyone provide a cogent explanation for just why his taking steroids required a federal investigation.

And I simply don't believe that the Bush Justice Department is capable of doing a non-political prosecutions of Barry Bonds.

[MadHound]

28. My, but you are reaching aren't you

You're comparing the Starr investigation, an investigation into a man's personal life, with an investigation into bona fide criminal activity:eyes: Puhleeze, get a grip.

Oh, and I suppose that you think that Bonds indictment is all some sort of plot also.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? To accepting the consequences of your actions? Or does that all go out the window when it is your favorite player involved?

Bonds broke the law, as did many others on that list. Worse than that, they damaged baseball severely over the past twenty years. That's the reason that they needed to do this investigation, steroid and other use of enhancement drugs has gotten out of hands, and the baseball establishment couldn't clean its own house. Thus, we had this investigation, to clean house and force baseball to come clean.

What, you simply want this whole mess to continue, all to save Barry Bonds?

Let me ask you a few questions. Do you think that use of performance enhancing drugs is legal? Is it moral? Do you think that it is cheating, and if so, why should we reward people who cheat?

Sorry pal, but you're going out on a limb that few will follow. I suggest that you turn around and go back before that branch breaks.

[douglas9]

8. Clemens, Pujols Among Big Names On Mitchell's Expected Steroid List

http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html

[ellisonz]

17. That list is no good.

[Bombero1956]

9. lots of big names

including Johnny Damon, Jason Varitek, Pug Rodriguez, Jeff Bagwell.

[hadrons]

11. Clemens is a major freeper ....

a really knuckle-dragger, so no pity that he's on the list

I wonder if Andy Petitte will blame God for telling to take the juice?

[Javaman]

14. you know what? who cares. like all this comes as a giant surprise.

they should be fined, have their "records" stripped and kicked out of the hall of fame, but alas none of that will happen. But what will happen is that this will be made major news because rove and bolton were held in contempt and the MSM has to keep that quiet.

to coin a phrase, keep an eye on the political ball, folks.

[Penndems]

16. Here's the full list, according to the Mitchell Report:

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell
Barry Bonds
Aaron Boone
Rafael Bettancourt
Bret Boone
Milton Bradley
David Bell
Dante Bichette
Albert Belle
Paul Byrd
Wil Cordero
Ken Caminiti
Mike Cameron
Ramon Castro
Jose Canseco
Ozzie Canseco
Roger Clemens
Paxton Crawford
Wilson Delgado
Lenny Dykstra
Johnny Damon
Carl Everett
Kyle Farnsworth
Ryan Franklin
Troy Glaus
Rich Garces
Jason Grimsley
Juan Gonzalez
Eric Gagne
Nomar Garciaparra
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Jose Guillen
Jay Gibbons
Juan Gonzalez
Clay Hensley
Jerry Hairston
Felix Heredia, Jr.
Darren Holmes
Wally Joyner
Darryl Kile
Matt Lawton
Raul Mondesi
Mark McGwire
Guillermo Mota
Robert Machado
Damian Moss
Abraham Nunez
Trot Nixon
Jose Offerman
Andy Pettitte
Mark Prior
Neifi Perez
Rafael Palmiero
Albert Pujols
Brian Roberts
Juan Rincon
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Sammy Sosa
Scott Schoenweis
David Segui
Alex Sanchez
Gary Sheffield
Miguel Tejada
Julian Tavarez
Fernando Tatis
Maurice Vaughn
Jason Varitek
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Kerry Wood

[ellisonz]

18. Bogus list.

[Penndems]

19. How so?

n/t

[ellisonz]

21. Because this is the correct list per the Mitchell Report:

NEW NAMES

Chad Allen
Mike Bell
Gary Bennett
Larry Bigbie
Kevin Brown
Alex Cabrera
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Brendan Donnelly
Chris Donnels
Matt Franco
Eric Gagne
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Todd Hundley
Mike Judd
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
Daniel Naulty
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Armando Rios
Brian Roberts
F.P. Santangelo
Mike Stanton
Ricky Stone
Miguel Tejada
Ismael Valdez
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Todd Williams
Steve Woodard
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun

PREVIOUSLY LINKED

Manny Alexander
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Marvin Benard
Barry Bonds
Ricky Bones
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Paxton Crawford
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Ryan Franklin
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Juan Gonzalez
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Darren Holmes
Ryan Jorgensen
Gary Matthews Jr.
Rafael Palmeiro
John Rocker
Benito Santiago
Scott Schoeneweis
David Segui
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde
Matt Williams

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-mitchellnames121307&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[TheWatcher]

20. Bogus My Ass.

The only thing wrong with that list is it doesn't name everyone, and is probably the tip of the proverbial Iceberg.

I know it's difficult for most Americans to accept that the Sports they love so much, that make them feel so good and make them feel like they are "a part of a special Tradition", are corrrupt to the very core and ceased to be real games long ago, and are now nothing more than Businesses, but it is true.

As for your response, it reads like the typical response that pretty much crystalizes the typical American mentality towards any difficult truth.

"If I refuse to believe it's true or real, then thus it cannot be so."

[ellisonz]

22. Because there are players listed there whom no allegations have been made against...

When you make assumptions you make an ASS out of U and ME. Do you support slander?

The correct list:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-mitchellnames121307&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[hughee99]

25. So what your saying is that the list you posted is a more

complete version of what the report found? Despite the fact that a number of name appear in the actual report that don't appear on your list. Your list could have many names that the committee investigated, but didn't have enough evidence to print, or it could just be the speculation of a few sportswriters or fans somewhere and have no relationship to any actual investigation. As for me, I suspect there are many players guilty who do not appear in the report, but just because I don't blindly accept a list OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN with NO EVIDENCE to support it doesn't mean I'm ignoring the truth either.

[Blue_Tires]

23. lol

i hope they keep kicking rocks over in the future...the players union, owners and selig deserve to have their faces pushed down in this shit

[olddad56]

24. Why bother with corporate sports to begin with?

Support your local high school athletic programs, or go watch a little league game.