Democratic re-count to start Wednesday

[maddezmom]

Source: AP

Associated Press - January 15, 2008 6:05 PM ET

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - Secretary of State William Gardner says his office is set to begin a re-count of New Hampshire's Democratic presidential primary.

Democrat Dennis Kucinich has paid $27,000 to Gardner's office to start the re-count. Kucinich, who received less than 2% of the vote, says he is suspicious of the results, although he doesn't expect a re-count to change his vote count much.

Kucinich has asked that the re-count start with Manchester ballots and spread out from there to other Hillsborough County precincts. He can stop the re-count and get a refund for the balance of the costs. To re-count the entire state would cost him about $70,000.



Read more: http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=7629118

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Why start w/Manchester? n/t

[mcscajun]

5. With a population of approx. 110,000, it's the largest city in the state.

Presumably, if there's an anomaly in the voting results statewide, it will show up there first. If that's the case, he can pursue a statewide recount; if not, he can save the rest of his money.

[EFerrari]

18. When the vote is messed with, it generally happens in urban centers. n/t

[tekisui]

2. Good. We could get the results before BigTues.

They said it would take about two weeks.

[global1]

3. I Would Love It If They Find That There Was A Problem And Overturned.....

the results.

[whopis01]

19. why?

Are you hoping that fraud was committed?

I hope that they find the vote was conducted properly.

[Truthiness]

21. Me too, I hope that no fraud is found

What blows my mind is the following:

1) The New York Times Magazine runs a cover story on how poorly secured these machines are prior to the primaries
2) The exit polls for NH are all accurate for all races and candidates EXCEPT between Obama and Clinton in Diebold-counted areas ONLY
3) Dennis Kucinich succeeds in his call for a recount, which kicks off today
4) The mainstream media doesn't mention the recount at all
4) The mainstream media doesn't even mention machine error or fraud as one of the potential reasons that the exit polls were so wrong in NH - but only for Clinton vs. Obama in Diebold districts.

I hope there is no fraud, but i KNOW that these machines need to be better designed against hacking or banned altogether. It's completely surreal that politicans and the MSM aren't making these one of the top issues of our day.

[whopis01]

26. agreed. It is surreal how ignored this is.

I certainly agree that a recount should be done. In fact, I don't see why it isn't done in every election.

It is insane that people don't get more worked up over ensuring votes are properly counted. Seeing people act like it doesn't matter as much in a primary is very frustrating.

[balantz]

4. How well is it monitored?

Are scanners used in the recount?

[emlev]

6. The recount is by hand, and volunteers will be

monitoring. More volunteers are needed. If you want to volunteer, PM me and I'll put you in touch with the right person.

[Cant trust em]

7. This is going to be great

I can't wait to hear what this turns up.

[Phred42]

8. This won't be the only one that Needs Recounting

Keep those $$ coming in folks. I predict that this is only the first of many that will require a recount.

[Hissyspit]

9. Democratic Primary Recount To Start Wednesday (New Hampshire)

Source: WMUR-TV (New Hampshire)

Democratic Primary Recount To Start Wednesday
Kucinich Requests That Recount Start With Manchester Ballots

POSTED: 6:02 pm EST January 15, 2008
CONCORD, N.H. -- Secretary of State William Gardner said Tuesday that his office is set to begin a recount of New Hampshire's Democratic presidential primary.

Democrat Dennis Kucinich has paid $27,000 to Gardner's office to start the recount. Kucinich, who received less than 2 percent of the vote, said he is suspicious of the results, although he doesn't expect a recount to change his vote count much.

Kucinich has asked that the recount start with Manchester ballots and spread out from there to other Hillsborough County precincts. He can stop the recount and get a refund for the balance of the costs. To recount the entire state would cost him about $70,000.

- snip -

Gardner said he will get started with the Democratic recount, and if Howard comes up with the money later, he will consider the request then. Gardner said he expects the recount to begin Wednesday at 9:30 a.m.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/politics/15056906/detail.html

[riqster]

10. Let's kick in some cash for Kooch! nt

[peabody71]

11. May not prove much, but it needs to be done.

No accountability in elections
must be taken seriously by anyone who believes in Democracy.

[babylonsister]

13. My thoughts exactly. This could prove everything was aboveboard, but

if it wasn't, that needs to be dealt with.

[Mme. Defarge]

16. It also may serve to deter

other states from any funny business by putting them on notice.

[msongs]

12. all the people who acted like there was fraud should send in $$ to help nt

[seriousstan]

14. You're kidding, right? Those people just piss and moan.

I am sure they are busy thinking about how to move the goalposts so they won't have to accept the recount either.

[fascisthunter]

20. Irony: seriousstan Bitches, Whines and Moans about a Recount

very telling.

Some don't want fairness and accuracy in elections so they bitch and whine about those who do and act upon their concerns; that would be you. See, that's the difference between you and those who give a damn about democracy and the democratic party as a whole.

Why so upset? Are you afraid of recounts taking away something from your candidate? Hypocrite.

[seriousstan]

23. Did you send money? No? Piss and moan, like I said.

[fascisthunter]

25. Send Money to Who, What

Are you a child? Because children play simplistic games like "did you send money to..... dur. Grow the fuck up!

[seriousstan]

27. Let an adult help you out, send money to Kucinich for the recount. Better?

You want a recount while you polish your tinfoil hat...pay for it. Otherwise let the grown-ups continue with the campaign.

[Truthiness]

22. So you're not troubled by the security holes in these systems?

It's not "pissing and moaning" to point out legitimate threats to our democracy, is it?

[seriousstan]

24. Did you send money? No? Piss and moan, like I said.

[Truthiness]

28. I did send money, and it doesn't require a tin foil hat to be troubled by e-voting

All it takes to be troubled with e-voting is a lack of ignorance about the issue. Anyone who knows anything about software and software security and then looks at these machines in any detail will be troubled. It has nothing to do with politics. It's all about the software. It sucks. If that doesn't trouble you, then you're probably going to get conned/used/manipulated regardless of what transpires.

[Vattel]

15. i'm all for recounts, but

my only worry is that the more recounts that turn up nothing, the less likely there will be a recount the next time there is strong evidence of fraud. Maybe I'm being too paranoid though.

[loveangelc]

17. even though it doesn't matter

there should be a Michigan recount. 20 counties did not register for 'uncommitted' i read.