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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:46 AM
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Gay teen shot dead while dressed as woman in Fort Lauderdale
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 11:50 AM by downstairsparts
Source: Sun-Sentinel



Simmie Williams Jr., 17, was attacked on the 1000 block of Sistrunk Boulevard by two young men who wore dark clothing and might live in the neighborhood, police said. Williams, who was wearing a dress and was known in the area by his first name or as "Chris" or "Beyonce," was shot about 12:45 a.m. Friday and soon afterward died at Broward General Medical Center, police said.It's unclear what Williams was doing in the area, about four miles from his house, but police are investigating whether he was working as a prostitute, officials said.

Williams' mother said her son was openly gay, but she didn't know what he did when he went out at night, and she didn't know he wore women's clothes.

"I gave him $2 for the bus and he never came back," said Denise King, who lived with her son west of Fort Lauderdale. "He was a quiet person, kept to himself. He had a lot of friends. He wasn't a troubled child. He was a happy person."

...

"We're looking into the possibility of a hate crime. There were some words exchanged prior to the shooting," said Detective Katherine Collins, spokeswoman for Fort Lauderdale police. She would not elaborate on what was said before Williams was killed.

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Read more: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbteenmurder0223sbfeb23,0,6177964.story?track=rss
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:51 AM
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Yeah... We Don't Need Hate Crimes Legislation
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 12:00 PM by fascisthunter
bigotry that leads to killing doesn't exist. Let's all pretend to be color-blind too and that way racism will just disappear.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:58 AM
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3. Murder charges are fine by me...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:30 PM
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33. Not good enough. This was motivated by the fact that he was gay.
Poor kid. : (

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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:58 PM
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35. I dont care...
if my son/daughter was killed because he was gay, purple, straight, a democrat, an athiest, or a cowboy. All deserve the same charges...
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:53 AM
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43. really? so we should remove all other sorts of intent from the law?
like defense, premeditation, diminished capacity etc?

to kill someone w.a particular intent has always been punishable. the intent does matter.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:47 AM
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48. The point is it's *already* punishable
That's the reason there are ranges in sentencing.

I'm troubled by the practicality of having a crime whose entire elements are mens rea.I also think, frankly, that for all the talk about punishment because it's a crime against the targeted community, the actual truth is that it's an attempt to punish someone for bigotry.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:49 PM
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40.  How can you tell that from the story?
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 11:52 PM by barb162
The writer doesn't say what words were exchanged, etc.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:51 AM
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1. This is horrible
but how did the police know words were exchanged? There must've been witnesses. Let's hope they are able to help the cops find the murderers.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:14 PM
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6. "Witnesses said he was in a verbal argument with two men..."
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:52 AM
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2. Horrible and sad.
Killed because he wore woman's clothes and was gay.

:cry:
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Keefer Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:34 PM
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13. The article doesn't say...
he was killed because he wore a dress. Maybe he was in another prostitutes turf? Hopefully, it isn't the start of a hate-crime war. I hope the case is solved, one way or the other.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:49 AM
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49. We don't know that n/t
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ReformedChris Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:08 PM
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4. I think this story will get a lot uglier as time goes on.. horrible details will emerge IMHO
I can't fathom what was said or how this poor kid was treated before they killed him pointlessly. I can only hope his mother has the stregnth to carry on and the police are able to find these bastards. The DA should also tee off on this situation and push for life.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:11 PM
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5. I wonder if homophobia in the US will lessen during my lifetime
:(
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ReformedChris Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:16 PM
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7. Hopefully it does, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. People are closed minded nt.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:50 PM
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8. Just judging from the kids I know, it will
To them, one's orientation is no biggie - more akin to what sort of clothes you like or the color of your hair than anything to get riled up about.

There will always be haters - you have to be taught that. But at the same time, tolerance can also be taught, and can spread and grow. I have to believe that's what's happening.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:35 PM
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14. It might seem bad now,
but believe me, it was much, much worse.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM
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20. It seems it's less now than used to be, but a long way to go still.
Though it's still there, like racism, there seems to be more tolerance. Things like this tragic killing still happen too often though.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:50 PM
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9. Peace to Simmie
And to his Mom.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:57 PM
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10. Peace to Simmie's family --
as to the rest -- simply more fateful evidence that we do need hate crimes legislation.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:09 PM
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11. Black and openly gay in Ft. Lauderdale.
Never had a chance.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM
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19. What are you talking about? Ft. Lauderdale is one of the most gay-friendly cities there are. n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:37 PM
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27. I don't disagree with that, but
A) Ft. Lauderdale is in Florida; and

B) Wasn't it in Ft. Lauderdale where they were looking to get bathrooms that could only be used by one person at a time? There was a conflict, gays were offended that this was a slur against them, and then the Craig thing happened, and I never did hear how that all concluded.

and C) This is Florida. They managed to destroy spring break in Daytona Beach for college kids too, to try to make it more family-oriented, but, apparently, Biker week is consider family-oriented, because that continues without a hitch. All the middle-age uneasy riders, I guess.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:48 PM
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45. I lived there 14 years ago, and the crime was horrible then
I don't know if the dump has been cleaned up at all since then. Hell, I had 2 drive by shootings in front of my apartment while I was there.

As for "gay-friendly" I don't know, but one would think that with such a diverse culture down there that it would be more accepted than in other places.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:12 PM
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12. This is just sickening :(
Maybe we need a national monument - a wall with the names of all those murdered or driven to suicide because of the bigotry, hatred, and intolerance of their own fellow citizens.

We'd need some serious real estate to build one big enough to hold all those names and dates though :'(
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:42 PM
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15. Just another of Jeb Bush's legacies in Florida...
This is happening all around the country but in Florida it really is just another of Jeb Bush's legacies. Legacies of his "family values."
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:50 PM
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16. "He was a happy person."
With a beautiful smile. The world will be a darker place without him RIP, Simmie Jr.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:02 PM
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17. this is tragic but what are you doing giving your 17 year old bus
fare at 12:45 AM?!!! and not know where he is going?!!!!! Just where do you think your child is going/doing at that hour?!!!!!
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM
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21. Where are you getting your information?
It says in the story that he was home all day, made dinner for family and then went out. Presumably dinner ended way before 12:45 AM, which was when he was shot, not when he caught the bus to Sistrunk, the family's old neighborhood.

It might help you in the future to read the article before embarrasing yourself by making unfounded attacks on the mother of the victim and the victim's family.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM
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22. It says he was shot at 12:45
It doesn't say what time he went out. She didn't know what he did when he went out though. When I was 17 my parents didn't necessarily know what I was up to either, I think most don't at that age.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:31 PM
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26. Well, not all. I certainly did know, and my parents knew where I
was- in both cases, if we were even out at that hour, which would have been unlikely.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM
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18. if he was working as a prostitute on the street...
and got picked up by someone expecting a female, who found out he wasn't- it could be a problem.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:35 AM
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46. that's what i was thinking. n/t
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM
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23. God Almighty!!!
The depths of depravity in America!!! (And I'm not speaking of Simmie Williams. I'm speaking of the subhumans who perpetrated this tragedy.)

This one made me cry.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 PM
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24. Sistrunk Blvd. is a hotbed of gang activity and violence.
At 12:45am ANYBODY (black/white/gay/straight/male/female/whatever)is liable to be killed or injured. Not a wise place to "hang out". South Florida is a very GLBT friendly place.

It is a tragedy that he was killed, and I'm not in any way blaming him for his death, but violence on Sistrunk isn't exactly "news".
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:27 PM
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25. Teenage boy dressed as woman shot dead
A young man dressed as a woman was fatally shot in a Fort Lauderdale neighborhood known for transvestite prostitution early Friday
Posted on Sat, Feb. 23, 2008
BY ADAM H. BEASLEY
abeasley@MiamiHerald.com

Simmie L. Williams spent much of Thursday looking after his 1-year-old nephew, Jamar. He cooked dinner for his mom and told her he was going out to meet some friends ...

Williams was killed about a mile from the site of a similar and still unsolved homicide.

Timothy Broadus, a prostitute dressed in women's clothes and a wig, was gunned down in the 500 block of Northwest 21st Avenue the morning of Jan. 8, 2003 ...

Williams bears the same name as his father, a felon who was released from prison three weeks ago after a nine-year stretch ...

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/broward/story/430210.html
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM
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28. Another day, another death from a gun
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM by KevinJ
Such a tragic, senseless waste.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM
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29. Today's teens
at least a lot of them are much wiser than the older folks. My daughter has straight and gay friends. Her aunt is gay so I always thought her tolerance was because of us, her parents. I received a lecture from my daughter quite a long time ago saying her friends didn't have the stupid hang ups.

It just breaks my heart whenever I read a new story like this one.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:20 PM
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30. Kick, ASSHOLES.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM
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31. I'm sorry, Simmie...
------------;<@


Rest in peace.

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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:38 PM
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32. As I've said before
(at the following link in fact: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=65735&mesg_id=65756 )

Anybody want to head on over to Fort Lauderdale and hang out on the 1000th block of Sistrunk Boulevard dressed in women's clothing every night for a couple of days? I'm talking about both straight and gay folks in a show of solidarity that lets the entire population know that we're not going to let them change the way we express ourselves through fear for our lives. If we had a supporting cast of straight folk to help us out, I for one wouldn't have a problem with that.

What do you all say?

I work at a place that would be less than appreciative of my taking days off from work, but I'm willing to head on over to Fort Lauderdale anyway.

Q3JR4.
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AnotherDreamWeaver Donating Member (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:23 PM
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39. Were there cameras on that street corner?
There are so many cameras on corners in this country, I wonder if this was filmed. I live across the country, but still not sure I would want to hang out on that corner. Though I sure loved walking the streets of San Francisco when I wasn't much older than him.

Many Blessings for his family and friends,
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:39 PM
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34. Hate Crimes are Domestic Terrorism.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 05:39 PM by IanDB1

"Hate crimes are domestic terrorism, and like all terrorist acts, they seek to bring fear to whole communities through violence on a few. And just as we have committed ourselves to fighting terrorists who strike from abroad, we must make the same commitment to swift and strong justice against homegrown terrorists."-- Sen. Edward Kennedy.




SENATOR EDWARD M. KENNEDY IN SUPPORT OF THE HATE CRIMES BILL



As we mentioned at the opening this morning, there were going to be major decisions in the Senate this morning, one dealing with the children’s health issue, which we’ve had a good discussion on here this morning, and the other issue here on the hate crimes legislation, which we have been attempting to realize for a period of some 10 years we have voted on it. This is not a new issue to the Defense Authorization Legislation.

We have passed it by more than 60 votes in the last—on the last occasion we had it. We passed it by majority on other occasions. so for those that sort of suggest that this isn’t appropriate that we deal with this, the majority, republicans and democrats alike, have overwhelmingly supported the legislation, but it has been a strong minority that has resist resisted it and refused to let it move on into law.

And we finally are at a time and a place and a judgment where the House of Representatives now has moved in favor of the legislation, we have an opportunity today to do it. We haven’t taken an unreasonable period of time. And the application of this legislation and why it should be here is a very simple and basic and fundamental one.

And that is what the Defense Authorization bill is about—dealing with the challenges of terrorism overseas and the support that our men and women ought to get dealing with terrorism overseas. This is about terrorism in our neighborhood, terrorism in our neighborhood, and making sure that we’re going to fight.

You can talk about having the MRAP, which I support, in the Defense Authorization, for fighting overseas with all of our weapons; we want to fight terrorism here at home with all of our weapons. We want to be able to have a value system that is worthy for our brave men and women to defend. They’re fighting overseas for our values.

And one of the values is that you should not in this country, in this democracy, permit the kind of hatred, bigotry that has stained the history of this nation over a very considerable period of time. We should not tolerate it. And we keep faith with those men and women that are serving overseas when we battle that hatred and bigotry and prejudice here at home.

So we’re taking a few minutes in the morning to have this debate discussion. Mr. President, I urge my colleagues to join me, senate majority leader, Harry Reid, Senator Smith, and 31 cosponsors of the Matthew Shepherd Act by voting in favor of cloture on our underlying amendment today.

Hate crimes are domestic terrorism, and like all terrorist acts, they seek to bring fear to whole communities through violence on a few. And just as we have committed ourselves to fighting terrorists who strike from abroad, we must make the same commitment to swift and strong justice against homegrown terrorists.

We’ve worked hard to ensure that all of our citizens can live without fear of victimization because of their race, religion, and their national origin. We made progress over the years, but we need stronger tools to ensure that all Americans, all Americans are protected under the law.

Hate crimes challenge us to recognize the dignity of each individual at the most basic level. When victims are selected for violence because who they are, because of the color of their skin or sexual orientation, it is a crime that wounds all of us. Each person’s life is valuable and even one life lost is too many. No member of our society, no one, should be the victim of hate crimes and today we can send a message that no one, no one should be a victim of a hate crime because of their disability, their sex sexual orientation, their gender, or gender identity.

Hate crimes are especially heinous because they deny the dignity, the humanity, and the worth of whole segments of our society.

They inflict terror not only on the immediate victims, but on all their families, their societies, in some cases, entire nations. A hate crime against one member of a group shouts to the other members that you are next, you better watch your step when you leave your home when, when you go to work, when you travel.

This is domestic terrorism, plain and simple—and it’s unacceptable as an assault from our enemies abroad who hate us just as irrationally. At the bottom, hate crimes strike out at our most fundamental moral values. They deny the teaching that we are all, even those viewed as outcasts among us, members of the human family. They seek to divide that family by labeling some so unworthy that they should become objects of violence. They reject our great national motto, e. pluribus unum, out of many one.

Instead, hate crimes seek to divide us, to reject whole communities by terrorizing their members. Centuries ago, Blackstone wrote “that it is but reasonable that crimes of different natures, those that shun should be most severe severely destructive are those of the public safety and happiness.”

Hate-motivated crimes are the most destructive of the public safety and happiness and should be punished more severely than other crimes. That’s why over 1,400 clergy from across the spectrum of religious traditions have come together to support the Matthew Shepherd Act. They write, “Although we come from diverse faith backgrounds, our tradition traditions, our sacred texts, are united in condemning hate and violence. As religious leaders, we are on the front lines dealing with the devastating effects of hate-motivated violence. Our faith traditions teach us to love our neighbor, and while we cannot legislate love, it is our moral duty to protect one another from hatred and violence.” These leaders of America’s religious communities have called on congress to stand united against the oppression posed by violence based on personal characteristics and work together to create a society in which diverse people are safe as well as free.

The Interfaith Alliance, a nonpartisan advocacy organization, representing 75 different religions, said that hate crimes are an assault upon the belief that lies at the core of our diverse faith traditions. This is what the Interfaith Alliance said, “Hate crimes are an assault upon the belief that lies at the core of our diverse faith traditions, that every human being is endowed with dignity and worth.”

“Dignity and worth.” The simple fact is that hate crimes are different and more destructive than other crimes. As my friend, Senator Hatch, stated during our debate in 2000, “crimes of animus are more likely to invoke retaliatory crimes. They inflict deep injuries some of which never heal on victims and their family members, they incite community unrest, and ultimately, they are downright un-American.” The Federal Government has a responsibility to send a clear and unambiguous message that hate-motivated violence is in any form from any source will not be tolerated. Hate crimes perpetrators use violence to dehumanize and diminish their victims. This legislation fights back by reinforcing this country’s found founding ideals of liberty and justice for all.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, our soldiers are fighting for freedom and liberty. They are on the front lines fighting against hate. We’re united in our effort to root out the cells of hatred around the world.

We should not turn a blind eye to acts of hatred and terrorism here at home. We owe it to our troops to uphold those same principles here at home. We should not shrink now from our role as a beacon of liberty to the rest of the world. When the Senate approves this amendment, we will send a message about freedom and equality that will resonate around the world. If America is to live up to its founding ideals of liberty and justice for all, combating hate crimes must be a national priority. Now is the time for Congress to speak with one voice insisting that all Americans will be guaranteed the equal protection of the laws.

We must pay more than lip service to this core principal principle of our democracy, and we must give those words practical meaning in our modern society. No American should feel that they are second-class citizens because Congress refuses to protect them against hate crimes. Far too many times, hate crimes have shocked the conscience of the country. Tolerance in America still faces a severe challenge.

As the Reverend Stockman said, “The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority.” Most of us in this chamber have lived our lives in the majority, and it’s time for us to recognize the courage of those who have lived their lives in the minority and stand up for tolerance.

When bigotry exists in America, each of us is diminished. Injustice inflicted on any among us is injustice against us all. As Leviticus commands us, “You may not stand idly by when your neighbor’s blood is being shed.”

For too long the Federal Government has been forced to fight this injustice with one hand tied behind its back. We know that some crimes are motivated by a desire to harm whole communities, and it’s time that those crimes were punished in a manner that is equal to their destructiveness.

The President has threatened to veto this legislation if it comes to his desk, but I urge my fellow Senators to display the same kind of courage that came from David Ritcheson, the victim of a brutal hate crime that scarred him both physically and mentally, rather than living in fear, David bravely came before the House Judiciary Committee and courageously described the horrific attack against him the year before.

We should fight to protect the rights of our fellow citizens such as David and not let a veto threat stop us from doing the right thing. With both the Senate and the House moving forward on this legislation, I hope that the President will hear our call and that he, too, will support this much needed measure.

Nobel Prize Laureate Eli Wiesel said, “Indifference is the benefit of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor, never the victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she is forgotten.” Today we can take a strong stand against indifference and intolerance.

Dr. King reminded us all that “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent against the things that matter.” Today this body has the chance to break the silence. It has the chance to speak with one voice in support of the value of every individual in our society.

Join me and my colleagues in breaking the silence. Make the fight to end violence driven by bigotry the high national priority that it should be. Now is the time, because as Reverend Martin Luther King reminded us, “the time is always right to do what is right.”

Now is the time for Congress to speak with one voice and insist that all Americans will be guaranteed the equal protections of the law. I urge all my colleagues to support this amendment.

More:
http://www.democraticmajority.com/content/senator_edward_m_kennedy_in_support_of_the_hate_crimes_bill
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:14 PM
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36. Another transgender teen is killed, but the shame belongs to Barney Frank
who decided to remove the transgender from the ENDA bill.

It is the transgender that suffers the most discrimination and often end up murdered. They are part of the LGBT community and it was shocking when they were dropped from ENDA.

I hope that when we get a Democrat in the White House, that he or she will work to protect all LGBTs, without exception.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:06 PM
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38. That's not fair. No law would change the social dynamics there
Unfortunately, I know the African American community there well ... one of the children I raised downtown turned out gay - and was killed by his cousins.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:19 PM
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37. So what would be the issue if bigots started turing up dead? nt
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:01 AM
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41. So beautiful...another loss to us all.
So much of this society is so quick to disregard a transgender person....as less than worthy of simple human dignity.

Had she been able to be who she is and work a job and maintain a sense of identity she would still be with us.

Unfortunately for many...professions are limited for the transgender who have many of the disadvatages that come with race, and economic status.

Transgender people pose many problems for even "liberals". False problems....

We are not problems. People that conspire against our existence are the problem.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 AM
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42. Possibility of a hate crime?
Seems pretty obvious to me. That poor kid!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:51 AM
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50. Why?
Why is that obvious to you?
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mattfromnossa Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:35 PM
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44. This is so heart breaking.
My heart goes out to the family.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:43 AM
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47. A kick for solidarity.
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