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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:07 PM
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Gephardt Major announcement in 20 minutes
WHO tv in Des Moines (NBC affiliate) says he will make a major announcement in 20 minutes (about 10:30) that will be big, some sort of press conference. Anyone know what this is about?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:09 PM
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1. Whaaaa???
This race is one of the biggest roller coaster rides I've ever been on.
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feckerman Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:09 PM
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2. no clue
It would seem pre-mature to drop out? Any word?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:10 PM
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3. He isn't quitting...is he?
Did he need a landslide in Iowa?
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:10 PM
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4. Nothing on MSFOXCNN. No details? nt
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:11 PM
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5. I heard on CNN that he had an event scheduled for tonight
Very intrigued to hear what it's about.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:11 PM
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6. a big endorsement would have leaked by now so I'm ruling that out
eom
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:13 PM
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7. May be his folks have the discipline not to do so...
.. who knows? Anyway, 20 minutes isn't that long of a wait, we will see how many DUers guess it right
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:14 PM
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9. You don't wait until the night before the vote.
Takes a little while for the word to spread and sink in.
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:19 PM
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12. Is it too late for tommorow's newspapers?
May be he is aiming for a top story above the fold, to start people's mornings. Particularly trying to counter Dean with Dr.Steinberg and Carter?

But yeah, not particularly likely.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:14 PM
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8. this late at night? has to be important
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:16 PM
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10. Could he be joining forces with another candidate?
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:18 PM
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11. Maybe Kerry
To be sure an establishment candidate wins - knocking Dean out.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:20 PM
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13. that would be wild...
But his MTP thing this morning was all about how he knew he'd win...hmmm.... tick tock tick tock....
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:21 PM
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14. oooohh, I hope not! That would really piss me off
Certainly Gep wouldn't pull a stunt like that, would he?

Speculation is fun on a Sunday night. :)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:22 AM
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55. Ain't gonna happen.
Dean has more support than both of those clowns put together.

Dean is going to win this.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:21 PM
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15. well lets go crazy with predictions...here's mine joining with the DK camp
seriously who the hell knows?
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:23 PM
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16. Perhaps going nucler on one of the others?
Risky, but he doesn't have much to loose anyway. Yeah, I am cynical, no-one notice yet?
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ACPS65 Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:23 PM
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17. Wild?
Endorses Bush for President. ;)
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:25 PM
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19. announces he will by running for vice president under bush
n/t
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:25 PM
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20. lol
Has decided that the communist party is the wave of the future in the USA
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hagbardceline Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:28 PM
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22. gephardt
Well, he IS 0wned by the unions...
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:58 PM
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46. red baiting and unions
how very blast from the past. Feel free to join us in the new Millennium.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:24 AM
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56. for god sake it was a joke I didn't know anyone would take it
seriously. Good lord get a sense of humor.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:33 AM
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61. Wasn't posted for you Dawgman
it was a response to a post to your post. Chill
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:25 PM
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18. Its about sex
Has to be. We haven't had a sex scandal yet.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:28 PM
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21. Please tell me Lewinsky is NOT working on his campaign!
lol
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:30 PM
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23. Crap, I was getting ready to call it a night. Now I can't.
Oh well, only a few minutes to go.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:31 PM
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24. Well! It's been 20 minutes!
whats the poop?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:31 PM
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26. and where should we be looking to get the info??
AP? CNN? Gephardt's campaign website??? :shrug:
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:35 PM
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33. I keep looking here for something
http://whotv.com/

Haven't seen anything yet.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:36 PM
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35. Thanks for that link TSIAS n/t
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:31 PM
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25. Strange that it's so late... why make a last-minute announcement
unless it's something he could be dogged for having not gotten it out before the caucuses?

Possibly dropping out and endorsing Kerry?

I remember when it was a given that Gep would take Iowa.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:33 PM
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27. If Gep doesn't win Iowa
he's history. Perhaps it is an endorsement of Kerry. Maybe he's Kerry's VP?

OK that was a ridiculous guess.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:35 PM
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31. His campaign manager was tv this morning and he was saying
they were going to hang in until super Tuesday. He was so confident, it was hard to tell if he was serious or just playing the game.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:35 PM
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32. Sorry
WHOTV just signed off with no additional mention of an announcement from Gephardt. This turned into a fun thread, but now I feel like a fool. Dang media whores. Probably thought they had a scoop, but had nothing. I will stay up for the sports show just in case. They really did say he was holding a press conference with a big announcement at 10:30. I will let you know if anything more.

Again, sorry for reporting as accurate what WHO in DSM said.
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DisgustedDemocrat Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:34 PM
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28. Anybody getting a station for this?? CNN? MSNBC??
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:34 PM
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29. He's probably giving a statement about Martin Luther King, Jr.
Monday is a federal holiday, and there's a statement about King on is website.

Just a guess...
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:35 PM
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30. Maybe he's found Osama
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:35 PM
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34. DailyKos had a somewhat sad entry regarding Gephardt today...
I didn't take it seriously at the time, but here's what it said:

Gephardt is fading, and he knows it. Perhaps unwittingly, he practically admitted as much when feebly asking the attendees in Pella for their vote.

"I'm not asking for me. It's not about me. I don't do this 18 hours a day, seven days a week for me," said Gephardt.

His voice is hushed, not energized. And then came the line that sent every scribe scribbling:

"I don't need to be president. I don't care about it."

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ACPS65 Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:39 PM
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37. Maybe he's endorsing the Patriots?
:D
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:45 PM
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41. That is sad, and I hope he meant that last line
...in the end, though I can't support him, I also don't like seeing someone percieved as "the Union candidate" go down so early...if indeed that is what will happen, as looks likely.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:38 PM
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36. Maybe he's getting a backbone transplant???
Jelly out - steel in.

:shrug:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:40 PM
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39. Can you get that "village idiot" on a t-shirt?
If so, where? I love it! I know it's not part of the thread but I love it!
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:10 AM
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51. You have a computer with a printer and an iron you could make your own.
They do sell iron on transfer paper. Just a suggestion if you can find an original. Or if you are as cheap as I am.
:kick:
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:00 AM
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67. I made it myself ...
Had to shrink it for sig-size ... I'll make another and post a link to DL it. And yes ... if you have a color inkjet you can buy iron-on xfer paper and make your own!
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:47 PM
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42. and your life long contributions to helping the people of the country are?
gepthardt has been a champion for the causes of the working man and woman in this country for over 25 years. he has earned the hard way the respect of any thinking person.

smart-assed remarks as yours show a lack of class.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:04 AM
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69. I don't want the leader of the House to be ...
... a "Champion for the causes of the working man and woman in this country for over 25 years."

I want him to be a man of steel willing to stand up as the leader of the oppostion to one of the greatest tyrants in US history. Sadly, Dick Gephardt has failed misreably at this. He may be a great guy, he may care for the working person, unfortunatly, he's a wimp.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:39 PM
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38. See reply 32 n/t
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DisgustedDemocrat Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:44 PM
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40. CNN News on now and not saying anything
It might even be repeat campaign coverage
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:47 PM
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43. The media whores at CNN were saying the DNC did not want...
a four car pile up in Iowa. The reason they front loaded the primaries was to have a nominee selected early, and prevent any challengers from taking hold. They wanted to assure themselves that the nominee would be one of their own, a member of the Beltway club.

The way it is now, everyone can claim a "little mo" coming out of Iowa, according to CNN's Bill Schneider. This is not what the DNC wants. They are also more afraid now because after the bruising battle for Iowa, the four leading candidates would have to immediately go into New Hampshire where Wes Clark awaits in ambush.

According to the CNN media whores, the DNC fears that the nomination may not be decided until late in the season.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:54 PM
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45. Wow. Maybe Indiana's vote will matter for the first time since '68.
Our primary is the first Tuesday in May. Should be down to two survivors by then.
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:00 AM
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47. A long undecided primary season is good for Democrats.
The media will get bored if somebody wins too soon,and go back to Michael Jackson.

So where's Gephardt's big announcement?

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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:01 AM
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68. OTOH
the rhetoric can only get meaner and nastier from here, and that ain't good for nobody but Bush.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:54 PM
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44. Ah yes, this is what the mods let slip through as LBN.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:02 AM
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48. Also some of the responses!
eom
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:03 AM
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49. Maybe he's heard that the superdelegates aren't going to back him?
Don't know...but the media is reporting a four way race in Iowa. That may be hype.

Yawn......well, wake me when/if something happens.......
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:05 AM
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50. test post n/t
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:11 AM
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52. Mayb eit has something to do with
the administration making public that they are not going to give the 9-11 commission an extention?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:16 AM
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53. I think we have a winner! Poster marlie (above) is likely the winner.
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 12:20 AM by Dover
Gep and Kerry playing tag team trying to guarantee the DLC/DNC grabs Iowa away from Dean. They're both in it to dilute Dean's following.
One of them (Gep probably) will bow out and endorse the other (Kerry) sending all his people to the Kerry camp....or something along those lines.

Kerry has been the first choice inside the beltway since the get-go....and the media has suddenly begun to get behind it too.

We shall see, but if we putting down our bets I'll put my chips on Marlie.

On edit: I see IndianaGreen has also endorsed this idea....and explained it better.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:22 AM
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54. He killed Vince Foster
and will confess.

:crazy:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:26 AM
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57. CNN pundit now saying that KERRY is worried that
EDWARDS and Gephardt are going to cut a deal.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:27 AM
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58. THIS JUST IN! Gebhardt says
Over 50 DU posters held hostage for over an hour in the LBN forum, awaiting an anouncement that isn't coming!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:30 AM
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59. That's it!
Hostages all.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:31 AM
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60. This sounds like a last-minute panic on someone's part
cutting a deal, reneging, rethinking, GOING FOR IT! oh shit what have I DONE???? NO NO NO.....etc., etc.

Death throes.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:36 AM
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62. do you believe this CNN pundit?
In your experience, how reliable are CNN pundits?

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:38 AM
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63. I don't believe anything until Gep comes out
and says what he has to say.

However, I have to say that if this is an attempt to "knock Dean out" of the race, it's pure desperation and destined to fail.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:44 AM
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64. but you repost it here
and accept its premise.

You called dems "clowns" in your post above, but "clowns" refers to these media whores whose rumors you are propagating, on the eve of the caucuses.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:46 AM
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65. I didn't say it was true.
I didn't even say I believed it. In fact, I was posting it as a response to those who were proposing that Kerry and Gephardt were cutting a deal. Notice the use of capitals.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:54 AM
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66. Clark and Gephardt together tomorrow on Larry King
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:05 AM
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70. Not LBN... locking
Please feel free to begin a new speculative thread in the General Discussion Forum.

:-)

Thanks!

DU Moderator
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