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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:14 PM
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Calls for 1-point rate reduction grow louder
Source: cbs

Expectations that Federal Reserve next week will cut rates by a full percentage point, to 2%, gained traction among economists and traders Friday after a bailout of Bear Stearns Cos. revealed more fault lines in the U.S. financial system.

Citigroup economists said they anticipate Fed policy-makers will lower the federal funds rate by a point to 2% next week from the current 3%, "and more cannot be ruled out."

"Aggressive action is needed to stabilize the financial setting," according to economists in a research report led by Citi's Robert DiClemente. The decision by the New York Fed and JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/likelihood-100-basis-point-rate-cut/story.aspx?guid=%7B0497638B%2D2B29%2D458E%2D84AC%2D152D023C7FAE%7D



Expect a big market day tomorrow.

Which I will now dub


Manic, March, Market, Meltdown, Monday
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:17 PM
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1. Manic, but no meltdown
Quite the opposite ... the possibility of a full 1-point cut could very well send stocks surging, perhaps by 500 points or more. They will have bought themselves one more day of favorable headlines, but at what cost? Last week's one day of "good news" cost them a mere $200 billion.


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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:21 PM
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3. Has the prime ever been this low?
I need to research that, 2% is a number that doesn't ring any bells
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:40 PM
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7. Didn't it drop below 2% in the aftermath of 9/11
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 04:44 PM by blayne
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:46 PM
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9. My data source shows that it was around 4.% at that time
from my link, can you explain the discrepancies
between our two data sources?
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:16 PM
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11. I believe your link shows "prime rates"
The prime rate is "the base rate on corporate loans posted by at least 75% of the nation's 30 largest banks" per your link.

The prime rate is currently 6% per your graph, but the Fed Funds Rate is 3% currently. The Feds lend money at 3% to the biggest banks, and the biggest banks lend money to the biggest corporations at the 6% rate.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:35 PM
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13. Thanks
so my 1947 low was really around .87% ?

It should be an interesting week.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:02 PM
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17. Should be very interesting.
I just wish I could purchase a house at these rates. I'm hoping they stay low until I am in a better position to buy.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:36 PM
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14. prime rate
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:40 PM
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6. 1.75% is the lowest I've found which goes to 1947
Highest was 21.5% December 1980, funny they raised the prime
from 11.5% in the summer of 1980 to almost 20% right before the election

http://www.mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:32 PM
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12. democrat in the WH - did the same thing to clinton - right? n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:19 PM
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2. One point will trigger Hyper Inflation
The Dollar will collapse, oil will hit $120, and our economy will grind to a halt.

All so the Wall street crowd can make an extra buck.

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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:05 PM
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26. Would you believe $200/bbl?
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:22 PM
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4. And once it is a ZERO how much lower


......can it get??????.......not much more rescue blanket left before a tumble down the hill happens.

...let me sell my home first.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:40 PM
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20. I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese....
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:27 PM
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5. Gotta love that "free" market. n/t
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:44 PM
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8. Ben has chosen the name of the destroyer in Ghostbuster fashion "Hyperinflation"
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:51 PM
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10. Soon, the banks will have to pay us to borrow money.
That ought to fix things.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:38 PM
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15. You will pay so that these crooks can party. Hold them accountable, America!
When farmers and working Americans were having trouble in the 80s, the FED raised interest rates to 21%. Now that the usury crooks are having trouble, the FED is lowering the rate to 2%?!!! Do you realize that YOU will be funding these crooks through higher gas and food prices that these rate cuts will cause?


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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:29 PM
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19. Exactly. People are not angry enough about this. Nothing but the blood of all of these people
and their children is adequate.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:51 PM
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21. They don't understand it. And...many still have faith in the government.
Meanwhile the neocons and their supporters are preparing to blame it all on the Clenis. I've already made one attempt at putting a DU "newbie" right on that matter. Might as well be trying to reason with a brick wall.

The RW have their pass-the-buck excuse ready, and average Americans are so ignorant of what BushCo & the GOP have been doing with the money supply and deregulation, a good number will buy it.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:40 PM
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16. Gives a New Meaning to the Phrase: March Madness n/t
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:19 PM
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18. lowering rates makes stocks a more viable option
when you are looking at 1-2% for your money in a possibly inflationary environment, stocks look better and better. when business gets money through stock purchases, they can use it to buy capital or staff to create more.

i'm not sure what choice they have.

i feel like they are devaluing the currency, but the other choice is worse.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:52 PM
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22. Please no
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:52 PM by high density
I want to at least beat the CPI with the returns on my money market funds. (Not even considering income taxes!)
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:30 PM
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23. Yeah, that's the panacea. Keep making money cheaper.
It's like a crack addict. After so long, you need more of it more often to keep you from crashing.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:53 PM
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24. I LOVE me the smell of desperation in the morning!
This news will do nothing but toss more gasoline (napalm?) on the fire.

(Channeling Bobby Duvall.)
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:00 PM
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25. And what about inflation?
I just don't get it.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:05 PM
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27. Inflation hurts the middle class and poor much more than the rich
The price of his new Bentley goes up, meanwhile your food goes up.
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