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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:09 AM
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House GOPers Stomping Mad Over Prospects
Source: MSNBC

Lot's of very glum faces among House GOP members this morning as they emerged from their weekly closed-door session. The political situation is not good, and they aren't even trying to deny it.

Rep. Tom Davis stomped on the concrete floor of the Capitol basement when asked by reporters about Republican fortunes at the moment.

"This is the floor," he said, by way of explanation. "We're below the floor."

Inside the meeting, Davis had just presented his colleagues with what he said was a 20-page memo outlining his prescription for a way out of this mess. He did not offer details to the press, yet did not spare the party and the president scathing criticism in his public comments.

"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth," Davis said.

He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday's vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill.

Read more: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/14/1019748.aspx
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:11 AM
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1. Stomp Stomp AssCarotts We Are Sick Of You
And your greed, and wars, and gluttony, and avarice, and whoring, and.............EVERYTHING!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:16 AM
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2. The only way I see they could get out of this is to impeach bu$h
and cheney.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:21 AM
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8. Maybe Pelosi was not so stupid after all, huh?
Just sayin'.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:08 PM
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26. well, whoever provides the impetus to
actually impeach him, will get the credit. If the repukes take the lead they could redeem themselves in the eyes of the voters. I don't think that would vindicate Pelosi's strategy.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:34 PM
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31. It's too late, IMO.
By the time the rethugs get their act together and actually start proceedings, it would be so late in the election cycle that there would be a lot of questioning of the motive. After all, he'll be out of office in January anyway, and there is little likelihood that he could be removed via impeachment before that.

And what about Cheney? Removing Bush installs Cheney, which puts the country at more risk, the Dems would argue.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:48 PM
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32. They won't say it publicly but I am sure many are thinking this (n/t)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:17 AM
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3. Are the GOP lemmings evolving to possess independent thought?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:21 AM
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7. It will be too little, too late - that's almost a lock...
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:23 AM
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9. Umm. No.
It's called being afraid of losing their jobs, power, ability to rip us off, etc.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:17 AM
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4. This is the reward for winning seats.
"He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday's vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill."

I love it!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:19 AM
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5. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:19 AM by Dhalgren
In this case: Lie down with psychotic thieves and murderers, get up with lost elections...
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:31 PM
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21. Psychotic? I dispute psychotic.
Psychopathic, of course, but not conventionally crazy.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:48 PM
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43. I think an argument can be made for sociopathy, certainly.
NT!

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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:20 AM
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6. Swallows the microphone?
But he was such a gifted public speaker in 2000. People went out of their way to hear his wise words. Why so glum now, Tom (you shit-for-brains asshole)?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:26 AM
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10. If they are serious about continuing in politics, they could work to impeach cheney
It would be a start at showing they actually care about America and are repentant of their past transgressions :evilgrin:

Otherwise, boo-hoo, they fucked themselves over several years by being rubber stamps for corporate elites and a criminal administration. They are worse than irrelevant. Sucks to be them.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:26 AM
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11. I read the article,
but I still do not know what an SPRO is.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:05 PM
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17. U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:09 PM
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27. Thank you. n/t
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:36 AM
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12. Oh come on. GOPers voted against Moms!!!
They are all so busy playing poke the Dems that they stopped seeing they are being perceived by the public as being the butt end of a very sick cow.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:50 AM
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13. Davis helped the problem and he may lose k*r
Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:51 AM by autorank
Tom Davis was untouchable in Northern Virginia because he was perceived as a moderate.

Of course, he's not. A closer look some time ago revealed he's all for this garbage since he's
the RCCC head and responsible for these Republicans getting elected.

Too bad - they support garbage and then people despise them.

Davis's wife ran for what was to be a secure seat in the VA Senate. Well known, previously
elected to all sorts of things, she was soundly defeated by a first timer.

Davis is next. Bye bye Tom.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:20 PM
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19. I *heart* Virginia
Virgina will turn blue before West Virginia on account of the suburban electorate which is becoming more Democratic every year throughout the country. There are a lot of women who live in Northern Virginia who work for the government and they are reliable Democratic voters. Just enough to change the equation.

(anybody seen Mr. Macaca lately?)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:10 PM
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28. We're the next Marin County
No. Virginia is high tech, government & research. It's more like Silicon Valley than any other part
of Virginia. 60-40% for Dem Gov, Tim Keane, in 2005, 65-30% in many of the higher demographic precincts. The interesting thing is that even without Northern Virginia, Keane would have won the
gov contest by 10,000 votes! So 2005 was the predictor election in Virginia. 2006, the Congressional
delegation is gerrymandered for Republicans forever, no indication there.

Davis retired, my goof assuming he was to run again. He said he'd go for the Senate but backed off
of that too. Davis had a very good record in county government, Fairfax County, and then morphed
into a Neo-Con enabler. He's one of those people who knows better but does bad things anyway. So
now he's on the shelf.


Retiring Allen for good!

As for Allen, there's hardly any press on him. He's probably not welcome in polite company;)
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:52 AM
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14. bummer maybe they have to retire on their bloated cayman islancd accounts
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:56 AM
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15. Is that whingeing and whining that I hear?


And the horse you rode in on, too.

mikey_the_rat
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:59 AM
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16. Lot's? Lot's? Why the apostrophe?
Don't MSNBC have any proofreaders?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:19 PM
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18. I have 3 words for the poor down- trodden gloomy Repubs....

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:23 PM
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20. Why do these blinkered fools still support the oaf
by refusing to override vetoes and by fighting every piece of legislation proposed by a Democrat just because it was proposed by a Democrat?

That's why they are despised and losing races. The fact that they are incapable of seeing that is why they are unfit for office.

I hope the lot of them will be turned out of office in November, although I realize that some states will persist in sending them back out of sheer laziness and a fear of change.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:34 PM
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22. Oh and Don't Forget... your legacy
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:39 PM
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23. how dare they be mad! we are the ones who are mad at their
horrible and often times criminal performance
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:54 PM
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24. The Republicans are already hard at work lowering expectations.
So that if the Democrats gain only 30 seats in the House and 10 in the Senate, the Republicans can say, "See? We did better than expected!"
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:56 PM
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25. The anti-SCHIP GOP stand is a gift that keeps on giving.
Why they could be so tone-deaf is beyond me. I thought they realized that ideology needs to be tempered by pragmatism.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:09 PM
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36. Like in the Schiavo case? They are truly blinkered fools. n/t
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:15 PM
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29. Is Tom "Rumplestiltskin" Davis only now seeing what all of us knew
about Bush?

"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth."

Hey, Tom: As the NY Giants star Michael Strahan would say, "WE GONNA STOMP YOU OUT!!"

:kick::kick::kick:

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:19 PM
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30. So long, GOP! I'll dance a jig on your grave! (nt)
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:42 PM
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40. Unless you're first to the grave, you might want to watch where you dance.
That earth might be a bit damp and yellow.

mikey_the_rat
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:43 PM
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46. Bury the whole f**king GOP!!!
Let them replenish the earth's fossil-fuel resources in a million years.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:54 PM
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33. how's this for a start GoP: hold the executive accountable -- subpoenas and oversight, try some
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:57 PM
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34. Heh, you said it, not us...
""This is the floor," he said, by way of explanation. "We're below the floor.""

Even they finally figured out what's up.

This is a moment in time to savor, truly, truly savor.

:rofl:
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:59 PM
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35. ....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:12 PM
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37. Put them in a vat full of sour grapes and let them stomp away.
They seem to be running out of kool-aid.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:23 PM
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38. This is sad, because its not like they did it to themselves, or anything
:nopity:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:37 PM
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39. ?
"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth," Davis said.

What did he mean by this statement? That he sticks his mouth over the microphone?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:46 PM
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41. The idea of looking for a job is pretty bleak.
How about those health care benefits they would lose? Slurping at the trough is lookin' better every passing day.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:47 PM
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42. This is evidence that those who say Obama can't win are full of ignorant shit.
NT!

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:49 PM
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44. Give 'em enough rope...
:rofl:
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:50 PM
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45. Who could have foreseen THIS?
Let's see:

1. They blindly supported all the ill-advised, anti-American schemes and crimes * and cronies foisted on the country for the last 7 years.

2. It gradually dawns on a majority of Americans that all is not well as a result.

Who wooda thunk a grateful America wouldn't keep the Republic-reich in power for a thousand years?

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:53 PM
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47. These special elections may be honest, but in November the vote-stealing and suppression
Edited on Wed May-14-08 05:53 PM by tom_paine
apparatus will be turned ON.

I don't think the Bushies can risk "turning them on" in these isolated, singular special elections.

But in November? Look out.

I do hope I am wrong, but for that reason I am quite nervous that these victories under relatively unrigged elections are meaningless except to put our guard down in November.

I am sorry. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer and I am VERY happy about these victories.

But we dare not forget who we are dealing with. A movement which has been mentally structured to be the same as the Nazis. A Mafia, a gang of thugs, thieves, and psychopaths. Who will stop at NOTHING to keep from being unmasked, to keep from being prosecuted for their many many MANY crimes.
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Zephyrbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:53 PM
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48. Did Davis make a sex joke????
The Prez going down on a microphone???

Looks like the Republicans are the Cry-Baby Party after all!!! Waaaaaaaaahhh!! We're in the basement!
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