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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:28 PM
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Lexis-Nexis Outsourcing 300+ Jobs (India)
Source: WHIO radio news

05/29/2008 05:48:38

MIAMI TOWNSHIP, Ohio -- Lexis-Nexis says it will eliminate 320 jobs from its Miami Township campus by early 2009.

The positions will be moved to a firm in India under the terms of a new contract reached by Lexis-Nexis' parent company.

A company spokesman says the operation on 741 just south of the Dayton Mall will remain integral to the corporation's global mission.

He says Lexis-Nexis is committed to the Dayton area, and there are no plans to close the facility.



Read more: http://1290whio.com/includes/news/indepth/5279860_Lexis-Nexis_Outsourcing_300+_Jobs_054838.html



Hello India!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:32 PM
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1. This is just pathetic -- we need to keep American jobs in this country
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:57 PM
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2. Haven't you heard?
There are no more "American jobs". We're all just one big happy family in the global economy. :sarcasm:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:14 PM
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21. Thank you, Bill Clinton!
You wanted a global economy, and you got it. Now let's repair the damage and bring our jobs back home!
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:22 PM
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6. AMEN, Lostin VA!!!
You're my buddy now. *hug*
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:26 PM
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7. My father is in textiles
I know how much moving stuff overseas can decimate local economies.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:36 PM
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3. I feel proud of myself. I drive a 1992 Volvo
when it dies, and if I can afford to, if the planet isn't too broken, I might buy me another one.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:02 PM
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4. Were any of the outsourced jobs executive level?
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:03 PM by Xipe Totec
No?

Didn't think so.


One would think that outsourcing those CEO level jobs would generate the biggest savings....


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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:10 PM
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5. "One would think that outsourcing those CEO level jobs would generate the biggest savings...."
Damn straight they would. More than likely, those CEO level jobs probably received raises.
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The Evolutionist Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:42 PM
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19. CEO level jobs probably
Alright why dont you start your own company and keep the lower level jobs here in US and have executive level jobs outsourced to India? Lets see how that works.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:17 AM
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25. cost of living increase
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:31 PM
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8. contrarian
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:31 PM by DemFromMem
Why do we act outraged when American companies move jobs abroad, but when a foreign company opens a plant in the US, we act like that's just something we deserve? We win some and we lose some in this department. I live up the road from a new Toyota plant that is being constructed that will create 1000s of jobs in a very impoverished region. The Japanese public, quite reasonably, isn't freaking out. And it's not such a terrible thing when American companies move jobs to parts of the world that are facing serious poverty. Yes, we need to be concerned about labor and environmental problems. But there is nothing immoral about a company creating jobs in poor countries where people struggle to survive in conditions often much worse than here. And moving more people from poverty to the middle class in the developing world is one way to stabilize countries.

I'm sure I'm about to be beat up for my views on this.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:14 PM
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9. Can you supply stats
Edited on Thu May-29-08 10:20 PM by OhioChick
regarding US jobs moving overseas vs. corporations from overseas bringing jobs here?

I have no problem with outsourcing or NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. as long as it's FAIR. However, it's not. Not only have we lost millions upon millions of blue collar jobs, but also white collar jobs....so what is left?

There are many people in the U.S. at the moment struggling to survive.

On edit to add: There is no problem for Toyota to set up shop here in the U.S. to make and sell their cars here......just as there is no problem with a U.S. car manufacturer doing the same in another region. However, to see a corporation outsource/offshore their work to another country.....just to be brought back to the U.S. to be sold is ridiculous. Do you hear of other countries doing this? They're not that stupid.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:43 AM
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14. The last time this bullshit was pulled...
we had a civil war!

I swear, they'd bring back slavery if they
could.

Wait!

They already HAVE!



Race you to the bottom!!
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:41 PM
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10. There is a difference.
Companies like Toyota don't set up shop in the US to help struggling Americans, They do it for two reasons. One is to beat import tariffs and the other is marketing. Billy Bob is much more likely to buy a Toyota pick-up if his neighbor down the road built it.

Also, do you really believe that US companies that move jobs overseas care about the people they will employ? If they cared about their employees, why do they put their US ones out in the street? Answer: It improves their bottom line.

Just remember, every one of the jobs Lexis-Nexis sent over to India WAS a middle class job here. I get your point about helping pull people out of poverty in these countries to help stabilize them, I just don't think putting more of our citizens at risk of slipping into poverty is the answer.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:52 PM
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20. Don't forget, we now also give companies tax breaks for outsourcing
Strange to think that our tax payer dollars are going to reward companies for firing US workers and giving their jobs to third world countries with low labor costs and no labor or environmental protection laws to temper corporate greed. But that's neocon economics for you.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:18 PM
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22. Sad, isn't it? n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:05 PM
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24. Neoliberal economics, to be precise
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 11:17 PM by brentspeak
Neo-"liberal" in that these self-proclaimed "liberals" advocate economic "liberalization": trade liberalization, the dismantling of government regulations, privatization of public services, the abolishment of taxpayer-funded social services, etc.

Basically, neoliberals are urbane, cosmopolitan, greedy swine who consider themselves more "enlightened" and educated than the masses they hope to rule over and/or exploit.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:41 PM
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11. Actually
There *is* something wrong with screwing Americans out of jobs (don't pretend that we get 1 job for every job we lose because we don't) and exploiting foreign workers and the environment.

Not to mention screwing consumers and their pets with contaminated products:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/08/toy.recall/

http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/04/21/tainted_pet_food_reaches_human_fare/
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:09 PM
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12. Why won't the Japanese let us set up manufacturing facilities in Japan?
Ever ask yourself that question? Why can't the Domestic auto manufacturers sell more than 20000 cars in Japan a year?

It's called PROTECTIONISM, and if we had practiced it, we'd have a DOMESTIC manufacturing base left in this country. And if we had elected DEMOCRATS the last 25 years in the Congress and White House, we'd have Unions in a strong position to fight the shoddy shit America has grown to love from these cheap labor whore countries like India.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:05 AM
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13. No sense in any more globalization ....

We can't even get our economic peers (G8 countries) to drop their protectionist tariffs. Why would we want open markets with 3rd world nations with rock bottom wages. Of course, that all depends on the definition of "we".
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:19 AM
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15. But the thing is....
<< And moving more people from poverty to the middle class in the developing world is one way to stabilize countries. <<

Outsourcing, more often than not, has the direct opposite effect HERE.

By all means, help poorer countries increase their productivity and raise their standard of living, but not at the expense of other workers' jobs. And don't kid yourself -- the people in charge of these schemes could give a small rat's ass about workers THERE or HERE.

This is done to improve the bottom line and to increase profits for shareholders, not out of any great sense of social moral values or altruism.

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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:01 PM
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23. "...there is nothing immoral about a company creating jobs in poor countries..."
The immorality stems not from a company creating jobs in a poor country, but from moving jobs to a poor country. You're confusing "job creation" with "off-shoring".

As for your contention that the Japanese public isn't particularly upset that a new Toyota plant being built outside their nation -- they would have no reason to be if it doesn't mean the loss of a Toyota plant in Japan proper.
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ChangeMan Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:45 AM
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16. I Know The Feeling..Cognizant Screwed Me Too...
I was working as a 'long term' IT consultant at J.P. Morgan Chase when the 'big boys' up in Deleware decided that Cognizant could do it better (that's IT speak for cheaper).

Work was plentiful and our team was busy, projects abounded. Suddenly projects were placed 'on hold' and H1B's started showing up. Our Technical Director (one of the best I've ever worked for) was left out of the decision loop and had to start taking apart the team that took 2 years to build.

I interfaced with the Cognizant 'boys' for over 3 months and all I ever got back were blank looks and "Yes, I understand" responses. Trouble is they didn't understand and couldn't produce the quality or quantity of work that was needed.

And this wasn't just in IT either. Cognizant invaded other portions of JPMC also. They showed up in the call centers, human resources and even in retirement benefits. From what I hear from former work-mates it is still going on at a breakneck pace.

Cognizant needs to be watched very closely. They are an insidious disease that is quietly infecting many, many US businesses. And it is all apparently part of their corporate plan.

Our economy is in the crapper because our jobs are being stolen.

Our economy is in the crapper because we don't make anything of substance in the US anymore.

Our economy is in the crapper because you can't base an economy on service sector job.

When the economy goes to shit, the first things that are cut are employees and services.

I have been 'down-sized', 'right-sized' 'rif'd' more times then I can count. My stints of unemployment in IT Over the past 20 years have cost our family over 200K in income.

I was one of the first two that got cut in our group at JPMC. I have been 'down' (thats IT speak for unemployed) for 8 weeks, sent out 150 resumes had 6 interviws and THANK GOD, will be going back to work next week.

Now it's starting to happen to our grown kids. My daughter and son-in-law both go their 'notices' within 4 weeks of each other. A week after that my son-in-laws father got stiifed on his job after 23 years. Thank God there are no grandkids.

So now Mom & Dad are moving in with the kids (far sooner then we ever expected) and combining housholds in order to survive. We have begun planning a move (for the whole family) out of state. It doesn't appear that Ohio will be getting better anytime soon.

Like Ben Franklin said "We must all hang together or surely we will hang seperately".

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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:47 AM
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17. White colars watch out - any jobs that can be performed via computer/internet
are in danger of losing them.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:10 AM
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18. Radiologists, Medical transcriptionists,
Legal work....and the list keeps growing.
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