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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:35 PM
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Ten states ask California to put same-sex marriage ruling on hold
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

The dispute over whether the California Supreme Court should put its ruling legalizing same-sex marriages on hold until voters consider the issue in November was joined today by attorneys general from 10 states, who say a postponement might save them from legal headaches over whether to recognize California marriages.

In papers filed with the court, the attorneys general - all Republicans - said that if the ruling is implemented as scheduled June 17, it would subject their states to a profusion of lawsuits involving gay and lesbian residents traveling to California to get married.

... "An inevitable result of such 'marriage tourism' will be a steep increase in litigation" over whether the couple's home state must recognize their marriage, said Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, author of the brief.

... He was joined by the attorneys general of Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, New Hampshire, South Carolina and South Dakota.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/30/BAAC110LAI.DTL&tsp=1
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:38 PM
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1. "The avalanche has already started.
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."


(Oh, how I hope my optimism is well-founded!)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:39 PM
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2. I thought New Hampshire has Civil Unions
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:39 PM
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3. Sorry, rightwingnuts; the 21st Century is coming to America, like it or not.
Get over it and grow the fuck up.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:45 PM
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4. Cheap-assed stalling tactics
and political posturing.

California need not recognize or honor such requests; lets hope they have the courage to go forward.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:46 PM
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5. I'm surprised that Ga., Al, Tx, Ut,, & Wy aren't on that list! n/t
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canucksawbones Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:28 PM
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14. Utah is front and center. eom
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 05:26 PM
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27. yeah no surprise there
we are supposed to be tolerant when it's about collecting women and children as toys (polygamy) but when it's a marriage of two equals...oh the horror the horror!

the utah a.g.'s time would be better spent hanging his head in shame but this type of person knows no shame

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:49 PM
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6. 11 AG's to CA "Please do not give stable legals grounds for people to sue for their rights!"
:mad:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:45 PM
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12. ugh! I know - makes my blood boil!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:51 PM
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7. I can't wait to vote out Suthers.
He's a fucking idiot AG from my homestate.

He's as worthless as turtle dung.

Hawkeye-X
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:56 PM
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8. I'm so proud of California!
Every time I think of this ruling, I keep thinking of the Eagles song Hotel California.

"You can check out, but you can never leave." Or something like that.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:39 AM
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21. well, before you get too proud, bear in mind...
Edited on Sat May-31-08 09:40 AM by mike_c
...that there are LOTS of right-wingers here and a referendum on a new and improved "marriage protection bill" is pretty much guaranteed. If it fails, it will just come back, over and over and over, I suspect. I'm proud of the court, too, but I don't have much faith that the nutter faction is going to accept their decision.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:16 PM
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9. Too bad RWingers, we're California....we always move forward!
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:22 PM
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10. Being dragged, kicking and
screaming, into the 21'st century...sheesh.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:33 PM
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11. Hahaha... fucking nasty bigots weep for their fragile beliefs
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:25 PM
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13. ok.... so now I know that two men may legally be married in California...
.. but what if one of them is white and another one is black? That's still against the law, right? Things will be fine if all the gays get married, but once we start allowing interracial marriage, it's all down hill, yessiree.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:35 PM
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18. Which reminds me, California struck down anti-miscegnation laws in the 40s
Edited on Fri May-30-08 09:36 PM by LeftyMom
and anti-sodomy laws (and other laws restricting consensual sexual behavior) in the 70's. Maybe the rest of the country (minus Mass :thumbsup: ) can catch up a bit faster this time, instead of taking a few decades?
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:30 PM
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15. Hey, that's the price you pay for stepping on citizen's rights!
"Darn those lawsuits! Why can't they just let us discriminate against minorities without causing us all these headaches?"

See the conservative.
See the conservative squirm.
Squirm, conservative. Squirm.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:37 PM
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16. Whatever happened to that ol' GOP meme: STATE'S RIGHTS?!
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

HYPOCRITES!!!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:57 PM
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22. Now it's "State's Rights When We Find It Personally Convenient" (nt)
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:56 PM
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17. Alas, we've already written discrimination into our state constitution here in VA.
Here's hoping the turning tide will wash away that hateful stain soon.

Yay for you, California--- and don't let the "inconvenience" of bigots trouble you one bit!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 12:29 AM
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19. so how many times has california tried to interfere in other states
marriage laws/rulings?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:18 AM
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20. That Full Faith & Credit Clause in the Constitution is a real bitch, ain't it???
:rolleyes:

We have to recognize marriages performed in other states as legal. Aggghh!!!

That's why Mildred Loving of Loving v. Virginia was arrested, I believe. The couple got married and then moved from D.C. to Virginia, violating the Virginia law against interracial marriages.


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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 02:41 PM
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23. Free response template for California, courtesy of gratuitous
Dear Attorney General:

We have received your request to deny Californians their inalienable rights. Thank you for you interest in this issue.

No.

Love and kisses,
California
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 03:34 PM
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24. that is some offensive n/t
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 03:56 PM
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25. Put it on hold until theocrats can try and destroy it.
That's what they really want. Fuck them California, go right ahead.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 05:23 PM
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26. oh boo hoo hoo
if these states must be sued to "do the right thing," so be it

utah and the rest always have the option of changing their minds and exercising tolerance if they are so worried about the lawsuits
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 10:25 PM
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28. Civil rights issues are not subject to majority rule.
:headbang:
rocknation
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:01 PM
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29. Better get used to it
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:13 PM
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30. Hope Cali tells the bigoted schmucks to fuck off. n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:48 PM
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31. Bigots.
NT!

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