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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:58 AM
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Bush expresses concern about isolationism
Source: Associated Press

Bush expresses concern about isolationism
11 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush expressed concern Thursday about the United States turning "isolationist and nervous," saying America should never hesitate to confront world problems.

Bush said the U.S. has a big stake in being engaged around the world in trouble spots like Africa, Colombia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan.

"It's in America's vital interest to help all these nations combat ideologies of hate," the president said. "It's in our security interest to eliminate safe havens for terrorists and extremists. It's in our national interest to develop institutions that allow them to govern their territories effectively and improve their lives."

The president spoke at the ceremonial groundbreaking for the new headquarters of the U.S. Institute of Peace, financed in part by $100 million that was quietly slipped into a spending bill almost four years ago by former Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska.



Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j057jBReERcsF-FcZRSWe0h1gaXQD9144HO80
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:01 AM
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1. He is so fucking whack.
He doesn't see how/why this country might be leaning in that direction? I'm speechless.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:17 AM
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3. Oh the irony
"combat ideologies of hate"
You couldn't make this stuff up.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:42 AM
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14. ideologies of hate???
isn't he promoting all this hate? he can take those ideologies and shove them, he is worst than a Islamic Fundamentalist.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:01 AM
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2. He can do it on his own dime, not taxpayer dime.
If these people are so insistent on fighting tyrannies, they can form another Lincoln Brigade with private cash and do it. Of course, most people who push the US into war only do so to profit from war, not to advance freedom. The US military was only supposed to protect US soil, not business interests abroad.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:20 AM
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4. Hey bush! Spend your own money on your goofy projects!
Everything you do sucks us down the drain!
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kryckis Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:26 AM
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5. I agree,,,
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 03:27 AM by kryckis
with his basic premise but not the rest. The USA should not be isolated but why is the only other option to start war with seemingly stable countries? Why not engage unilaterally in places like Darfur or Somalia instead? Why not promote a world-front unity instead of going off alone and ruining your credibility and goodwill? Surely there are ways for the most powerful nation in the world to promote democracy and freedom with other means than war and brutality?

I don't get the mentality.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:43 AM
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6. Oh
I thought he was just talking about himself :)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:57 PM
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34. You Aren't the Only One
But that would be a miracle if Bush were less isolated from reality--rather like Dick Cheney being called home permanently...
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:01 AM
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7. The blood soaked nervous little Fop must feel, a bit isolated.
:nopity:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:04 AM
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8. Well, I'm sure the rest of the world would like to isolate Bush!
Just as long as they don't *literally* send him to Coventry - it's too near where I live!

Send him to The Hague. And send Blair there too.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:42 AM
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15. Right here...
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:36 PM
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28. Nah, I would feel bad if another country had to deal with him
Let's convict him HERE and throw him into one of our overcrowded, underfunded prisons like everyone else!!

Let him lie in the bed he took part in making!
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:09 AM
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9. The great pretender
He is deranged, evil and schizophrenic all at the same time.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:12 AM
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10. Bubble boy is worried about isolationism now?
WTF?!?!

It's in our nation vital interest to have a dialog with the rest of the world that we are going prosecute and lock up the Bush Adminstration War Criminals. That alone would remove much of the hate that Bush has created. Much more to do of course, but I think Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Pearle, Wolfowitz, Kristol and a few others in prison for life would be a good first step.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:14 AM
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11. There's quite a bit of middle ground between isolationism
and threatening to invade every country you don't like, Mr. Bush.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:26 AM
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12. Agree...The US SHOULD never hesitate to confront world problems
Problem Number 1 is DUH-bya.

We should be dealing with this issue
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:35 AM
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21. Thank you for saying that.
(But DUH-bya is far from being the only one...).

What will happen if they manage to assassinate Mr. Obama? (All the world is asking themselves)...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:33 AM
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13. he is really a sick sick man.
he needs to be bodily removed.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:44 AM
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16. rotflmao!!!
Good grief, the shit that comes out of that idiot's mouth! :rofl:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:15 AM
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40. I used to laugh at that shit
but after seeing all the mass media, Yahoo, etc., always taking his phony-baloney pronouncements at face value (except when he makes obvious gaffes/Freudian slips), I just want to scream.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:57 AM
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17. The War Party hates the very idea of minding ones own business. nt
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:00 AM
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18. Bush trying to pave the way for McAsshole to to make his case for
staying the course in Iraq by claiming to leave would make the US isolationists..LOL

No one could probably spin it this way like Bush..incredible.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:08 AM
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19. So that's why we defiedthe entire rest of the world to start a trillion-dollar war?
He should be relieved from duty due to blatant insanity.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:49 AM
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20. Bush and Peace are not synonymous
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 09:51 AM by Tippy
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:49 AM
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22. What, Halliburton running low on no bid contracts?
Do American corporations need some fresh victims to loot and pillage under the guise of "advancing democracy"?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:52 AM
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23. Gee i wonder why Merika is feeling that way? Hmmm?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:52 AM
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24. Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhh. . . .
NOBODY FUCKING CARES WHAT YOU THINK, RESIDENT SHITBAG!!1!11!!!! LEAVE!! LEAVE!!! JUST FUCKING DON'T SPEAK ANYMORE AND LEAVE!!! YOU'RE THE MOST WORTHLESS PIECE OF HUMAN DETRITUS EVER TO DISGRACE THIS COUNTRY!!

Jesus H GOD, when are we going to forcibly eject this criminal? WHEN?
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:55 AM
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25. Can Anybody Tell Me Why?
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 11:56 AM by daggahead
"Bush said the U.S. has a big stake in being engaged around the world in trouble spots like Africa, Colombia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan."

Why are these places trouble spots? Anybody? Anybody?

Oh, maybe because the US has fucked with their economies & governments. and killed countless thousands of their people?

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:06 PM
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26. Also isn't there something positively Orwellian
about BUSH giving an opening speech for something called 'the US Institute of Peace'?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:00 PM
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27. celebrating pork-barrel??
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:44 PM
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29. We won't have to worry about isolationism at the rate we are going..
Infrastructure - Utility companies are being allowed to be sold to foreign countries....(they promise they won't hike prices)

Products - Products are outsourced and shipped back to America

Produce - can't remember the last time I saw an Orange from America...

White Collar jobs - shipped overseas

Blue Collar jobs - shipped overseas


See how easy that was, can we be really isolationist if half or more of our country is owned by foreign countries.....just askin...

:shrug:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:02 PM
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30. What "isolation" means to the Bush cabal is NOT have the U.S. military at their disposal
to secure the oil needed for all that tanker traffic.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:44 PM
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31. Argh!
Would he just shut up and go away!:grr:

Bush said the U.S. has a big stake in being engaged around the world in trouble spots like Africa, Colombia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan.

"It's in America's vital interest to help all these nations combat ideologies of hate," the president said. "It's in our security interest to eliminate safe havens for terrorists and extremists. It's in our national interest to develop institutions that allow them to govern their territories effectively and improve their lives."


Africa - When has the United States ever really actively engaged in Africa since World War II? Central Africa Republic, DR Congo, Darfur, Somalia, etc. etc. Where are the ideologies of hate? Those are the ideologies of greed. Greed when you have nothing else left, and resources are few and far between. We COULD help. He COULD have helped. We could have 'pre-emptively' gone into Darfur - yet that dimwith has done n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

Colombia - I fail to see an ideology of hate there too. Can someone explain that to me? Again - emerging nation that was crippled by US interests a long time ago, drug trade, limited resources. Sorry - good friends of mine are from there and lived through the bullshit as kids . . . It's the same effing thing as Africa. To Bush and Co - those people do NOT count.

Lebanon - *vomiting in my mouth*

Pakistan - Bush's FRIENDS?

Iraq - Yep you hate war monger - your ideology of hate has really done a number on the Iraqis.

Afghanistan - He means where he 'cut and run' to go play war games in Iraq?


Who the hell voted for this monster??????? How could the Supreme Court have ever appointed such a vile little weasel to the Presidency?
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:24 PM
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32. Is this the same Bush
whose administration is making it more difficult for Americans to travel out of the country and for foreigners to visit the US? Or does this "non-isolationist" view just apply to invading other countries?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:57 PM
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33. No, Georgie, YOU'RE the one who has become too "isolationist and nervous!"
:eyes:
rocknation
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:03 PM
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35. Well, with globalization NOT living up to its promises, it's no surprise people ARE concerned.
Though the countries responsible for the most fragile/toxic/deadly/whatever goods would have more to worry. Or at least, in theory, as those products have defined their reputations.

Yes, it IS in our national interest to help other countries. It's a moral issue too. I can't and won't deny that. But the statistics are showing it's all about the migration of jobs, which is hardly globalization as it ought to be, and plenty are suffering because of that too.


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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:45 PM
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36. Ain't that we don't wanna go out socializin -- but nobody wants you taggin along, George
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:50 PM
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37. Has W ever heard of
Irony?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:30 PM
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38. It's not isolationism when nobody wants us around (nt)
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:36 PM
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39. Oh, bullshit! We could use about a decade of isolationism.
No more outsourcing. No more ruining people's livelihoods so these greedy corporate fucks can make even MORE money. Rebuild the American manufacturing base. Stop fighting "wars" that are thinly-veiled excuses for the plutocrats to make money of the deaths of our soldiers. And if I wasn't bone-tired, I could add about a zillion more things.
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