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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:11 AM
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Orange County [CA] to have jump on voting
http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories/0,1413,204~21474~1918758,00.html#

Long Beach Press Telegram

ORANGE COUNTY Voters in Orange County can begin casting their votes next Tuesday, a full month ahead of the state's key primary March 2 when other voters go to the polls.

The early vote, from Feb. 3 to 22, will test the county's new, $26 million electronic balloting system, which was adopted in response to the fiasco that marred the presidential election in 2000.

Orange County voters will be the only people in the state casting ballots at this time, according to Registrar of Voters spokesman Dan Wooldridge.

(snip)

The electronic early voting system could help phase out absentee voting, which is an expensive process, according to Wooldridge.

Absentee voters have been easy to profile by election consultants, but the early voters could change the voting patterns that campaign consultants use in their strategies, Wooldridge said.

"It's going to drive the consultants crazy,' he added.

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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:38 AM
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1. Orange Cnty uses newly bought Diebold TS machines
I believe. This is not a good sign, "It's going to drive the consultants crazy" is pure distraction from the problem with BBV.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:08 AM
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2. And isn't Orange County typically very conservative, thus raising the
possibility that the returns from that voting may skew projections as well as further call into question the integrity of these black boxes?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:10 AM
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3. Very conservative and fundie, always go repug
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:42 AM
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5. i was raised in orange county
the demographics of oc have changed quite a bit over the years. i doubt that they are still as heavily repuke as they once were...
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:46 AM
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7. So was I, central OC to be exact. But spent 12 years in S. OC
before moving to SD county 4 years. That runs Irvine and to the west and to the south till you reach San Onofre. County went to Bush in 00.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:44 PM
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9. Actually now that I have been thinking about this
what a great way to gauge how the general primary will go. That way they can work all the bugs out in time for March. Who will the next selected President be? Anybody venture to guess?
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:12 PM
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12. It is getting less Repuke as new people move in
In 2000, here's how people's party affiliations break down:

Repuke - 660,561

Dem - 431,695

Decline to State/Other - 250,490

So, if you combine the Dems and Declines, there's actually less Republicans here than anyone else.

But, they still voted for Bush in 2000.

http://www.oc.ca.gov/election/general/1b-4.htm

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:56 PM
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14. Sounds like someone needs to insure the OC stays Bushevik
Nothing like a paper-trail-less Stalin-style "voting" machine to make sure it happens.

I worry that we have passed the twin points-of-no-return:

1) That electronic balloting and "manual disenfranchisement and ballot-stuffing" strategies pioneered in Florida 2000 have corrupted our voting system beyond the ability for it to actually even come close to counting the votes. It serves the Imperial Family like everything else in the Empire.

2) That the diseased minds of the Bushevik followers have passed the point-of-no-return in that Goiebbels v2.0 has so stripped them of their critical thinking capacities and made them so beholden to their Bushevik Masters thatthey will do whatever, whenever, up to intimidation and murder, if that's what their Bushevik Masters require of them. That when enough of a critical mass of people cease even remotely following the rules and cheating at will (because it's "justified"), said society cannot stay free.
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ahimsa Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:24 AM
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4. Awww..
The electronic early voting system could help phase out absentee voting, which is an expensive process, according to Wooldridge

Drats - there goes our last chance at accountable voting. :eyes:
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:45 AM
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6. Bush will win if many states use these machines with no recount option..
thats the "only" way he could win...and they own the systems...so the fix is in if these machines are used.

Stole one election...not problem stealing another.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:35 PM
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8. Fuck!!!!! We could run FDR and JFK together and lose if this isn't fixed!!
Why the FUCK will the Dems in Congress NOT MAKE A HUGE BLOODY STINK ABOUT THIS - and pushing the bills of Holt and Graham??!! If this isn't remedied - democracy is finished in America - and the entire world will be in great jeopardy - constantly threatened by the most powerful militarty force the world has ever known! Nothing much.

:puke:
:argh:
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:36 PM
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10. thank you!
the whole 2000 stolen election is just grazing in history's past as well


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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:02 PM
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11. I live in Orange County...will I have to vote early?
I don't want to use those machines. I think I'll just send in my ballot absentee. I was prepared to go to the polls as usual on March 2nd. I hope this early voting is not mandatory.

Yes, it is quite conservative here, but I wouldn't say it's fundie. Maybe certain areas are, but most people are just fiscal conservatives.

However, Laguna Beach and Santa Ana usually vote Dem. Even Irvine, where I live, is much more balanced than it used to be. Alot of people here don't like Bush.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:22 PM
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13. well this IS news 2 me
I live in OC. We just got our primary voters guide - not one word about it in there. R the voters, so privileged, selected or is this county wide?
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