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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:25 AM
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Videotaped interrogation of Gitmo suspect released
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 05:03 AM by Judi Lynn
Source: Associated Press

Videotaped interrogation of Gitmo suspect released
Updated 5m ago

TORONTO (AP) — A videotaped interrogation by Canadian officials of a weeping teenage Guantanamo Bay prisoner was released over the Internet Tuesday, in what is believed to be the first such video from the U.S. facility seen by the public.

Omar Khadr's lawyers released excerpts of their client being questioned at Guantanamo Bay in 2003.

In the video, a Canadian Security Intelligence Services agent is shown grilling Khadr, 15, about events leading up to his capture as an enemy combatant. Khadr, a Canadian citizen, is accused of throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. soldier during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan.

The video shows Khadr weeping, his face buried in his hands.

At one point, Khadr tells his questioner that he was severely tortured in Bagram, Afghanistan. He raises his orange shirt to show the wounds he sustained when he was captured.


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-15-gitmo-videotape_N.htm
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:31 AM
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1. Somehow I doubt anyone in the US will ever see that video. - n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:43 AM
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9. Shouldn't be an issue - its already on YouTube
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:34 AM
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2. K&R
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:04 AM
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3. Canadian emissary defends Gitmo trip
Canadian emissary defends Gitmo trip
Jul 15, 2008 04:30 AM

Michelle Shephard
National Security Reporter

The foreign affairs official who was told Guantanamo detainee Omar Khadr had been subjected to the sleep deprivation "frequent flyer program" says he stands by his decision to visit the Canadian captive and relayed his concerns about the teenager's well-being back to Ottawa.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Toronto Star yesterday, Jim Gould said his only goal when he visited Khadr in 2003 and 2004 was to check on the Toronto prisoner's physical and mental state.

"I had to see him. I had to talk to him. I had to see how he was doing. Had I walked away, Canada would have had no idea what kind of shape the kid was in," Gould said.

The controversy over just what Canada knew about Khadr's treatment in Guantanamo is expected to erupt again today with the release of a 2003 interrogation video, which shows a 16-year-old Khadr crying and begging Gould and a Canadian Intelligence Security Service agent to take him home.

More:
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/460297
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Caradoc Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:33 AM
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4. Canadian PM Harper...
...is now approaching his Waterloo. He has not, in any way, shape or form, taken a stand against the Bush administration on anything and Canadians are increasingly frustrated over this. Every other western country who had detainees held at Guantanamo has repatriated them. Harper is such a blind ideologue that he can't see how much damage this does to him.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:26 PM
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15. Hell, the guy *campaigned* on making Canada a satellite state. (nt)
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:29 AM
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6. K & R
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:00 AM
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5. video here
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:36 AM
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7. Thanks for supplying that. I couldn't find it anywhere. Words fail altogether. Thank you. n/t




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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:55 AM
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8. Grilling and torturing a 15 year old
Anyone acquainted with a 15-year-old? Think of that person at the receiving end of a rubber truncheon. Or waterboarded. Or put into a stress position. Or sleep-deprived. Or any of the myriad other forms of torture our government is practicing with our tax dollars in our name for the last seven years or so.

A 15 year old.

What kind of man does it take to torture a 15 year old?

Be all that you can be.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:45 AM
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10. The world is counting on Us Patriots to stop this. Let's bring
them home. Let's demand Sen. Obama quit voting to provide financial support for this abuse.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:58 AM
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11. We need to know who the interrogators are. All of them.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:05 PM
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12. 15 years old.
Criminal. Pathetic. Shameful.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:26 PM
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13. Jesus Christ I hate this country.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:48 PM
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14. I think the video (link in post 5 above) is not getting quite enough play here


What a crying shame that this came out while the House of Commons is on summer recess. There needed to be fistfights across the aisle over this.

Of course, since the Liberals were in power when that idiot "visited" Khadr, and the Conservatives have just announced that they do not plan to seek his repatriation from Guantanamo Bay as ever other nation in the world has done for its nationals (and as the Liberals did not do), there wouldn't have been a lot of people left to do the punching.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:42 PM
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16. What kind of Canadian "parents" allow their 15 yr old son to go off to Afghanistan
They are truely assholes in the highest degree.
Even the majority of Canadians that have followed this story for years know that the fruit didn't fall far from the tree.

His father was a "financier" to AQ and his mother...

well.... women are to be seen and not heard.

oh wait,
women are NOT to be seen and ...

speak only when spoken to. ;)

His sister was also a severly brainwashed nutjob. ( Thats Canadian opinion, not mine )The proof is in the video and past family quotes already on record and thats why this is the prime reason these trials need to be televised.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=552_1201538050
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:03 PM
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17. They Didn't
Allow him to go off to Afghanistan!

He was taken to Afghanistan!

There is a difference.

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:30 PM
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18. I'd like to see the link where you got that info
I was listening to today when I heard some interesting excerpts about the boy and his family
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92563076
But the above link didn't provide the audio of his mother and sister sounding off.


In the meantime,wonder what it would have been like for khader if he got a lucky break like these american boys did ? watch these youthful time bombs grow up and develop an attitude after submitting to 24/7 torture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Q_HeUg8w8

That is what his mother hoped he would grow up to become.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:46 PM
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19. Don't Need
A link. It is common knowledge. Just do a bit of googling.

The issue is not "didn't fall far from the tree".

The issue is not his parents.

The issue is justice. The issue is children.

But for those who don't google, here is a good starting point.

The Khadr family
Omar Khadr

The Khadr family moved to Peshawar, Pakistan, in 1988, when Omar was two. Four years later, in 1992, Omar's father Ahmed nearly was killed when he stepped on a land mine in Afghanistan. Ahmed and his family returned to Toronto, but when Ahmed recovered the Khadr family returned to Pakistan and soon found themselves back in Afghanistan where they lived in a large compound with bin Laden.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/omar-khadr.html
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 06:55 PM
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25. Don't Need link. ? It is common knowledge.? ok, your link indicates child abuse
This excerpt is also from your link.



Khadr, the child of Egyptian and Palestinian parents in a fundamentalist Muslim family in Toronto was only 15 when he was taken into custody and transported to the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo.

The devout Khadrs
The complexity of the Khadr case is heightened by his upbringing as the youngest in a family of al-Qaeda sympathizers who considered religious martyrdom, being a suicide-bomber, as a supreme calling. Omar's father, Ahmed Said Khadr, was an associate of Osama bin Laden and a reputed financier of al-Qaeda operations. He was killed in October 2003 by Pakistani forces. One of Omar's older brothers, Abdullah Khadr, is in jail in Toronto and is fighting a U.S. extradition request for terrorism-related crimes.

The Rolling Stone article says Omar's father used to tell his children, "If you love me, pray that I will get martyred." He urged his sons to be suicide-bombers, saying it would bring "honour" to the family. He actually warned his son Abdurahman,


"If you ever betray Islam, I will be the one to kill you."








http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/omar-khadr.html

It sounds like child abuse to me.
No?

ok

This boy was taken into Afghan custody at age 14

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e05_1216332469

jmo,
your tree of knowledge needs pruned ;)
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 10:15 PM
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21. I have been wanting to say this for a long time. You sound like a rethug.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:51 PM
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20. There were many 15 year old Hitler Youth in 1945
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 09:52 PM by daleo
But in those days, we didn't imprison and torture them for 5 plus years. We had more faith in ourselves and our democracies, I guess.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:21 AM
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22. that was so sad
I hate child abuse more than anything.
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:41 AM
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23. This SHOULD be played in full on the major networks ...
but of course it won't be. I'm glad Amnesty International is on this case.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 06:40 PM
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24. You look, you'll find videos out there
but people don't like to look for stories made by journalists, that risk their lives, that deliver a "truth" they would call propaganda;

Kabul, Afghanistan - "Suicide Boys" (July 2008)
- Post Media Reply
"In Pakistan's Islamic boarding schools, young teenage boys are brainwashed into carrying out terrorist attacks. Most of the time, they don't even know that they will be killed along with their targets." journeymanpictures




http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e05_1216332469


***

RELATED:

photographer Stephen Dupont on surviving a suicide blast

Tribal Tricker, US forces search for Taliban members hiding among local tribes

Forgotten War

documentary, The Taliban Declassified, Part 1

documentary, The Taliban Declassified, Part 2

All of Lasrever's videos on the Taliban and Afghanistan

All of Lasrever's videos on military dictatorship and Islamic extremism in Pakistan



Interview with a Captured, Failed Afghan Suicide Bomber
Mature, Repost (Check) - Post Media Reply
May 13- Imdadullah, a goat herder from rural Pakistan, explains the mentality behind suicide bombings- the Taliban's answer to the West's overwhelming firepower.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=560_1179121526

alla snackbar
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