McCain camp angry over Obama's 'lipstick' comment

[DogPoundPup]

Source: Ledger-Enquirer

LEBANON, Va. --
What's the difference between the presidential campaign before and after the national political conventions? Lipstick.

The colorful cosmetic has become a political buzzword, thanks to Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's joke in her acceptance speech that lipstick is the only thing that separates a hockey mom like her from a pit bull.

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama told an audience Tuesday that GOP presidential nominee John McCain says he'll change Washington, but he's just like President Bush.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to an outbreak of laughter, shouts and raucous applause from his audience, clearly drawing a connection to Palin's joke. "It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

McCain's campaign immediately organized a telephone conference call in response and called on Obama to apologize for calling Palin a pig. Obama's campaign said he wasn't referring to Palin; he had been talking about McCain immediately before the lipstick comment.

Obama followed up by saying Palin is an interesting story, drawing boos at the mention of her name that he tried to cut off.

Read more: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/254/story/436016.html

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OBAMA'S ENTIRE 'COMMENT' "We've been talking about change when we were up in the polls and when we were down in the polls," Obama told a rally here as surveys suggested John McCain and Sarah Palin have overhauled his lead for the November 4 election.

"The other side, suddenly, they're saying 'we're for change too.' Now think about it, these are the same folks that have been in charge for the last eight years," the Illinois senator said to a crowd of 2,400 people.

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap up an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough," he exclaimed to a standing ovation.

"Boy, we've really screwed things up, but it could get worse. That's their argument. What John McCain's offering is the same old tired slogans that (President) George Bush offered."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080909/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamapalin

[heliarc]

1. I'm sorry... she asked for it calling herself a pitbull

I think he's going to gain points for this...

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. She's female too... hmmmmm

You know what that means.

[Oceansaway]

2. fuck mclame...he's senile....n/t....

[tekisui]

3. Good! They got pissed at Biden, now Obama. You guys are on the right

track. Keep it up, hit harder!

[napi21]

4. Well she dubbed HERSELF a PITBULL DOG! Personally, I happen to

[refer a pig to a mean & nasty attack dog!

[kurth_]

5. Quit yer goddamn whining and bellyaching!

Take it like a man, fer Chris' sake.

[mwb970]

20. The "pit bull" is apparently a Delicate Flower.

I haven't heard a couple as whiny as this since the Bickersons.

[clixtox]

68. Joke Him (McLame) If He Can't Take A Fuck!

We can only hope that the "gloves" are coming off!

Go get em Obama!

You are the MAN!!!

[C_U_L8R]

6. Why does McCain assume Palin's a pig ???

Does she oink?

[muntrv]

7. McBush, I know you've lost the ability to comprehend so let me explain:

The PIG is the GOP policies.

[Robbien]

8. He should just do what the GOPers are doing

Ignore what the opposition is saying and keep on using the line. Over and over and over again.

Has the GOP ever apologized for anything? And how many times has the GOP whined "Dems should apologize", a million?

[muntrv]

9. Operator, send McBush the WAAAMBULANCE!

[DogPoundPup]

13. : )

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[cyr330]

10. Tough Shit.

Fuck them.

[RainDog]

11. I love it.

the more they fuss about it, the more people will make the association.

Since she's the one who called herself a bitch in lipstick, it's too bad we can't say that one in polite society because that's probably the one thing she believes that I do as well.

[pristinebullet]

12. Obama got jokes!

Lol. His sense of humor is sharp.

[eShirl]

14. further proof that bullies are merely glorified babies

[pristinebullet]

15. Obama was making reference to McCain, not Palin

The McCain camp wants to make a pseudo-scandal out of all this.

[santamargarita]

16. I would have said, putting lipstick on a pig's asshole

~

[NashVegas]

17. Hur Hur

On it's own, easy to defend. Right next to "old fish," though?

At some point, I reckon we'll have McCain call a spade a spade, which will lead to a massive pillow fight.

[kskiska]

19. Ann Richards is the first person I heard say this

and it has absolutely nothing to do with the sex of the other party. She said, "You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but it's stilla hog."

[Gman]

37. Errr... I believe that was Jim Hightower

heard him say it many times years ago in speeches...

[Pacifist Patriot]

43. Nope, It was....

my grandpa. He used it all the time when I was a wee one.

;)

Geez what a tempest in a teapot. Nobody serves up a good whine like the GOP, eh?

[unblock]

47. i'm sure they've both used it.

it's a very old expression and quite popular among politicians from farming/ranching areas.

[Justitia]

55. Here in TX (home to both of those fine pols you mentioned), many of us use it A LOT.

My husband says it frequently when he is trying to close a deal.

As in - "Now, let's go put some lipstick on this pig & put it to bed!"

It always makes me smile.

As does, "run it up the flagpole & see who salutes" - I said that just yesterday.

However, I don't refer to myself as any kind of animal or fish (i.e., pitbull or barracuda) - that's just dumb.

Sarah Palin: All hat, no cattle. Uh, I'm not so sure about the hat, either.

[Zech Marquis The 2nd]

21. she calls herself a bulldog with lipstick

And Obama didn't say her name outright and cal her a pig with lipstick, it was mainly her earmakr, pork barrel projects like that damn bridge to nowhere! But I can see that his remarks must have hit home and hit hard for old man McCain :rofl:


After how the GOP made fun of community organizers, I'd say they deserve far worse names to be called! ;bounce:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

22. HA!!! I love it!

Obama's on a roll now!

[Waiting For Everyman]

23. Way to go, O!!!

Hell no, don't "apologize"! Keep it comin'! Who do they think they are? Liars deserve nothing but ridicule and exposure.

And guess what? Repeat THAT enough times, and it sticks too!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

24. Check out this thread by Seemunkey!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8083897&mesg_id=8083897

Or if you want to go directly to the site: http://www.pitbullsagainstpalin.com/

[stillcool]

25. Too funny..

McCain's campaign called the comments "offensive and disgraceful" and said Obama owes Palin an apology. Obama's campaign said he wasn't referring to Palin and said the GOP camp was engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card." Obama's camp also noted that McCain once used the same phrase to describe Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan.

[stevietheman]

26. Obama better not apologize for this -- he obviously wasn't calling Palin a pig...

and not only should he not back down from this language, he should keep using it. The American people understand this kind of talk -- it's common language and it works!

[Skittles]

35. correct

he needs to call McCain out on yet ANOTHER LIE

[Virginia Dare]

71. He won't. He knows what he's doing...

make them look stupid, whiny and reactionary. THEY'RE the ones being sexist.

[depakid]

27. Every McCain (or fill in the blank Republican) whinge of "outrage"

is one more small point in the Democrats' column.

[skepticscott]

28. Good for Obama

I just wish he and Biden would stop feeling the need to praise Palin and McCain at every turn right after they attack them. You don't HAVE to say anything nice about them....they'll do that about themselves, and they will NEVER say anything nice about you. Attack, attack, attack...never stop and never, ever apologize. Always accuse them of whining and weakness when they complain. Remind people that Russia and Iran and China won't treat them nicely if they were in office, and if they whine and whimper at a little rough campaigning, they're not fit to lead.

[roesch]

31. who own "lipstick?"

Although Obama was referring to the GOP the public, and to some degree rightly so, will remember Palin's use of lipstick and associate it with her. The right wing supporter are going all out to turn this into a negative-- just read the you-tube posts for example. Let us be honest many white folks are looking for the smallest of excuses to not vote for a black man, and this will do nicely. No apologies are needed, but maybe the new image should be a can of worms stinks no matter how packaged.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

29. McCain said it about Hillary's Health Care plan several times this year

and of course Cheney used the same line as well.

John just doesn't like other people stooping to his level.

But then, no one has gotten as low as John's Chelsea jokes.

[unkachuck]

30. ease up, johnny....

"...called on Obama to apologize for calling Palin a pig."

....Obama would never call the hocker-mom a pig....it would be insulting to pigs....

[Lydia Leftcoast]

32. The only proper response is "You can dish it out, but you can't take it."

:-)

If they go and apologize AGAIN, I'm going to be annoyed.

[jberryhill]

33. McCain? Angry? Why.... I never /nt

[kikiek]

34. Gee McCain must not think much of Palin if he takes that remark that far out of context.

[frylock]

36. republicans, as a whole, are the biggest group of thin-skinned, whiney-ass wusses on the planet..

eat it, punk ass fools.

[Duer 157099]

38. Obama BETTER not apologize!

If he even says anything I hope all he says is "I call 'em as I see 'em" PERIOD!!!

GAAAAHD have you ever seen such whiny bully crybabies EVER??!? The are beyond contempt.

[EndElectoral]

39. Forget this crap! Focus on the lies, the McSame voting record, the deficit, the lack of job,

their record on Soc. Security, the corruption during the Bush whitehouse, the changes on McSame's positions.

Ask what has he done to help the American working man? Not the CEO, the working man?

[notadmblnd]

40. Good on Barack

[Imagevision]

41. Lipstick? - actually the comment couldn't be more right on target!

[roamer65]

42. Fuck your Keating Five ass, Insane McSame.

Bribe taking slimeball.

[bemildred]

44. Good, maybe they will say some more stupid stuff. nt

[GETPLANING]

45. PORK BARREL PALIN

Let the swiftboating begin in earnest.

[Vattel]

46. A good excuse

to show McCain's hypocrisy--the things he's said about Hillary and Chelsea. Obama should respond: "Palin is not a pig, but she loves pork. McCain is not an old fish, but his policies stink."

[seafan]

48. Digby: 'Remember, Palin compared herself to a violent bitch, not Democrats, liberals, progressives'

Tell it, sister.

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[President Kerry]

51. you are wrong

as is whoever is whining about the comment. It is a very common expression, and everyone knows it. Whoever is showing fake outrage is doing just that. They need to rag on Obama, and they'll find any hidden meaning, even when one doesn't exist. It's nonsense, and the only people that complain are the ones that weren't going to vote for him anyway.

[rayofreason]

52. Give me a break.

Any Obama supporter who thinks that this is a good thing has no clue. I am stunned that people who claim to be Obama partisans are cheering on a error.

[Name removed]

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[bowens43]

74. It wasn't an error or a gaffe.

He used this same expression in much the same way BEFORE Caribou Barbie was added to the ticket. McCain also used this exact expression when referencing Hilliary's health care proposal. Where was the outrage then? After all, Hillary was the only candidate wearing lipstick? To justify their faux outrage by calling this an error is ridiculous. It's more of the same lie and distort politics that we always see from these ass wipes.

[bitchkitty]

57. Back at you.

It's idiotic to think that this is any kind of gaffe at all, much less a major gaffe.

I've heard the expression, everyone's heard the expression. The most telling thing about this non-story is their reaction to a common phrase - it's moronic, transparent and fucking stupid.

[Democat]

59. Every bluecollar woman is defensive about Pain?

Then we've already lost according to your logic.

[Crowman1979]

50. OH YOU MEAN THIS PIG! LOL

An accurate description I must say.

[Mz Pip]

53. Earth to Sarah.

Not everything is about you. I know it seems that way these past few days.

[Indi Guy]

54. Thanks for the context DogPoundPup...

...And thank you Barack for your backbone!

Oh yeah, "We've had ENOUGH!"...

[Union Thug]

56. Gawd, I hope O doesn't back down. What he said was

much more polite than the bullshit the Cooter and The PitBitch vomited forth during the convention. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.

They can sure dish it out, can't they? But Jod forbid anyone dare speak a word of disaproval against their sorry asses.

Fuck off, McCain, and your little dog, too.

[LynnTheDem]

58. Dear mcCane and Paliban; "lipstick on a pig" is a saying that has been around even longer

than mcCane.

Does Paliban FEEL like she's a pig with lipstick?

Or does she feel everything said in the world is all about her?

[JonLP24]

60. I understand it - They don't get it

He wasn't calling a Palin a pig. He was just saying making a reference to change, a pig will always be a pig even if it has lipstick. That isn't change. The right wing is so full of shit.

[JonLP24]

61. The media is only playing one line

It clearly suggests Palin is a pig but it is out of context. I'm worried about this election as well as hopeful. The real world, Arizona, I haven't ran into too many people backing McCain honestly.

[and-justice-for-all]

62. Piss off repig wankers!

they want to dish it out but can't take it in return...FUCK THEM, Losers.

[Vinca]

64. This is truly the dumbest campaign I've ever witnessed.

It's only a matter of a few hours before someone on the Internets pulls up a dozen McBush "lipstick on a pig" quotes, but the trashing of Obama will be out there and the Palinistas (aka the dumbest among us) will be increasing in numbers. I almost can't believe this is happening. Obama needs to change course on the 527s or the Rovian forces are going to bury him in shit.

[jmowreader]

65. If "lipstick on a pig" is sexist, we're all in deep trouble

Everyone uses the term--including McCain, probably. Now we can't use it?

Putting Palin on that ticket is putting lipstick on a pig--the candidacy is still dirty and foul, even if their VP candidate is cute.

[Indi Guy]

66. The phrase "Lipstick on a pig" enjoys a well know history in American politics...

The McCain/Rove guys are jumping on appearances to further gin up a new culture war.

Rovian strategy -- "Tout your weaknesses & attack your adversary's strengths."

Propaganda 101

[Zuiderelle]

67. Try putting lipstick on an uppity pig. Hypocrites.

[Zombie2]

69. Nobody cares McDouche

She IS a nasty freakin pig!

"GET UP... GO GET EM!" ~ Joe Biden 09/08/2008

[boilinmad]

70. If the chimpy...

...can flip off the press corps and call it a 'thumbs up' , what are these whiners bitching about?

[robcon]

72. It's a gaffe - a minor one - and it will be forgotten, IMO.

n/t

[bowens43]

73. It wasn't a gaffe and it had nothing to do with her.

calling it a gaffe gives validates their nonsense.

[Jennicut]

75. It was not a gaffe, it was brilliant.

He made them look like the whiny think skinned idiots they are. They sure can dish it out but can't take it when it gets tough.

[robcon]

78. It was an inadvertent mistake.

gaffe Pronunciation gaf
-noun
a social blunder; faux pas.
a socially awkward or tactless act

It was an error to open himself to such criticism. McCain could have gained points, I suppose, by 'responding' something like "I will not 'respond' to that obvious mistake by my opponent." McCain would have gained in stature among the electorate by seeming not to take offense at a possible interpretation of what Obama said (while still reminding people of the possible interpretation.) Sometimes hypocrisy (responding by not responding) pays off. McCain missed that "opportunity" to appear to be above it all.

Instead Obama lost - but only a little, and, I'm sure, only temporarily.

[yardwork]

76. I'm angry that McCain is trying to foist a total nutcase on the country.

[demgurl]

77. Obama was not referring to Palin in any way, shape or form.

How on earth they can twist these things is just beyond me.

Let us for a minute pretend that Obama was referring to Palin. Is calling someone a pig in lipstick worse or better than calling your wife a cunt? Just kind of curious!!!!!

[Vogon_Glory]

79. Moosebites Palin Led With Her Chin, Her Lips, Whatever...

"Moosebites" Palin led with her chin, --er--her lips, --er--whatever, and Barrack Obama couldn't resist the temptation to land one on her kisser.

Too bad, Sarah.

Sarah, things could have been worse, you know. Much worse. You could have been a Democrat getting dissed by a Republican.

:nopity:

:evilgrin:

:dem:

[CBHagman]

80. What's with the Truth Squad for Sarah Palin?

I don't know if this is official or not. Anyway, a bunch of GOP women are going all hear-me-roar about supposedly tough Sarah. :eyes:

http://sarahpalintruthsquad.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-introduction-video.html