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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:35 AM
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Merrill's CEO Thain Wants $10 Million Bonus
Source: CNBC

Merrill Lynch Chief Executive John Thain has suggested to directors that he get a 2008 bonus of as much as $10 million, but the battered company's compensation committee is resisting his request, the Wall Street Journal said . . .

Shareholders on Friday approved Bank of America's takeover of Merrill . . .Merrill was arguably saved from extinction when it agreed to merge on Sept. 15, an hour before Lehman Brothers
filed for bankruptcy. The fear was that Merrill could be next if shareholders and trading partners fled, as many did at Lehman and the former Bear Stearns.

Thain has said he deserves a bonus because he helped avert what could have been a much larger crisis at the firm, people familiar with his thinking told the WSJ.



Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/28107594




He should get a bonus because he averted a disaster by selling the badly run company he was in charge of running. Now what's wrong with that thinking.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:38 AM
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1. I'd say no deal, and let him go find another investment bank to run.
Oh, wait...
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:38 AM
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2. Bullshit. He ran the company into the ground. He deserves NOTHING.
In fact, he should be terminated for poor performance.

BULLSHIT. No money for this flake. Send him packing!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:39 AM
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3. I helped avert the US economy from collapsing by buying Christmas gifts ...
where's my bonus?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:39 AM
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4. Send him down the road!
This is what really ticks me off about the financial bailouts. Congress is "demanding" all kinds of things from he automakers, and I have no problem with that, but the financial corporations that got billions in bailouts, had no strings attached at all! Not one single company that received bailouts should be paying their CEO's "ANY" bonus, period!

Congress has not done their job when it comes to demanding things from those who are getting taxpayer dollars, and this needs to be corrected.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:58 AM
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8. Thank you!
The automakers are literally asking for pennies in loans while these jokers have gotten $4.6 Trillion in cash, guarantees, and backing so far, without answering one question or giving up one bonus, vacation, spa retreat or bloated salary.

Guess those who actually make stuff are not as important as the hucksters....
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:51 AM
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32. Congress has demanded NOTHING> to start with, not one penny should leave the country.
Ins econd palce how about the big three STOP THEIR LAWSUITS AGAINST we the people to end emission regulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And let's see, how about putting in writing that he money the banks get can ONLY be used for lines of credit for small businesses, and that the big 3 get can ONLY be used for workers retirement and health plans, that they soooooo bitch about paying after people work for them for 35 years.
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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:41 AM
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5. I've got to admit, if he was expecting $11 million, that would have been excessive,
but $10 million sounds, oh, just about right.

We're so jaded to big numbers today, with all this conversation. A $10 million dollar bonus is $200,000 a week for that year's work.

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:52 AM
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33. jesus. 200,000 a week. I can imagine building new worlds with 200,000 a year!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:17 PM
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34. He had no salary?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:50 AM
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6. ---------MEANWHILE:
---------MEANWHILE:

Big layoffs coming at Merrill Lynch
December 1, 2008 — 4:48pm ET | By Jim Kim
http://www.fiercefinance.com/story/big-layoffs-coming-merrill-lynch/2008-12-01


Bank of America and Merrill Lynch expect to close on their deal by the end of the year. But before then we're likely to see some changes. The success of the deal really turns on efficiencies, and CNBC reports that the Merrill Lynch investment banking unit is likely to be scaled back dramatically. The two companies have a 266,000 employees combined. The investment banking staff collectively totals about 50,000. CNBC says to expect cuts of about 10,000 in the investment banking staffs. These cuts will begin soon, at least before the end of the year.

========

I suggest laying-off Chief Executive John Thain, and using the "bonus money" to retain the employees
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:54 AM
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7. of course he does. they all do.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:01 PM
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9. "Ok, so I hit the iceberg, but we sank quickly and efficiently."
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:02 PM
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10. a bonus for competently doing a job - forget it!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:02 PM
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11. What you may not know about John Thain and his history."
"What you may not know about John Thain and his history."
http://www.progressivesplayground.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=560&mode=full&page=

Thain ran the NYSE before leaving to take over the ML job.


Thain's sidekick at the NYSE was Marshall N. Carter, the former Chairman and CEO of State Street. Carter engaged in oppressive misconduct - on videotape, which the company refuses to produce - designed to squelch Patrick and me at the 2000 Annual Meeting. He also engaged in such tactics in 1998 and 1999.

Carter lost the Chairman and CEO position in 2000, after his little snit fit. At the 2000 Annual Meeting, however, he was praised (on said videotape) by Walter Kaye (the same Walter Kaye who recommended Monica Lewinsky for her White House internship).

The younger Marsh Carter is the son of Marshall S. Carter, former Deputy Director of the CIA and Director of the NSA (and former aide to General George C. Marshall).
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:01 PM
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24. interesting set of connections.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:04 PM
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12. I WANT a 5% WAGE INCREASE!!!
10 million bonus?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:17 PM
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13. What a load of horseshit.
:eyes:
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:27 PM
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14. Tell him OK, and he can pick it up in CASH in a brown paper........
....bag at an intersection in downtown Baghdad. Can you believe this motherfucker???????
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:34 PM
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15. Merrill Lynch - $10billion in bailout money
The Top 10 Regions for Banking Bailouts
By Peter Galuszka
http://industry.bnet.com/financial-services/1000225/the-top-10-regions-for-banking-bailouts/
December 8th, 2008


There’s a new geography of financial woe and The New York Times has done a major service by putting it together in a revealing graphic.

It shows where, by city and banks, the first $335 billion tranche of the $700 billion bailout has gone. So far, $161.5 billion has been allocated, another $108.5 billion is pending, some $40 billion is going to American International Group and another $25 billion is committed.

Not all of the bailout money means it is going to institutions that have nearly failed but a lot of it is. No matter how one slices it, the bailout fund is the result of some very bad news.

Here’s a breakdown by city and region:

--snip--

New York. $148 billion with Citi taking $50 billion; AIG, $40 billion; and J.P. Morgan Chase, $25, with $10 billion each going to Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs.

--snip--

For an even more compelling graphic, we should try to combine these figures with the number of financial services jobs lost and how much in bonus$es the fat cats are getting.
http://www.progressivesplayground.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=560&mesg_id=562#562
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:57 PM
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18. Iran To Jail & Flog 16 Ex-Central Bank Staff For Graft

TEHRAN (Reuters) -- An Iranian court has sentenced to jail and lashes 16 former Central Bank staff for taking bribes including 35 billion rials ($3.5 million) in cash as well as gold and foreign currencies, state radio reported.

It was the latest sign of the Islamic republic, whose leaders have vowed to root out graft, getting increasingly tough on corruption in the world's fourth-largest oil producer.

The radio report said those accused received sentences of 10 years in prison, lashes, and fines in the Tehran court's "initial verdict," without making clear whether all 16 were handed the same punishment.

The report did not say when any lashings would take place.

They were also banned from holding government office again, it said, without detailing the crimes and saying what positions they had held in the Central Bank.

They were accused of receiving 35 billion rials in cash and large quantities of gold coins and foreign currencies in exchange for providing finance in the form of letters of credit, a key tool for trade, the radio said.>>>>>>>>snip

http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1357083.html

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:35 PM
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16. averting crisis is his job.... and I'm sure he's already paid handsomely for that
bonus? nuh-uh
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pdefalla Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:53 PM
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17. No bonus?
At least I didn't hit TWO icebergs!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:59 PM
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19. The new #1 Greedy Pig.
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faulknercindy Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:23 PM
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20. Here's a saying I get to say everyday
Wow there's an asshole for ya huh?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:34 PM
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21. 10 Mil Bonus?
:wtf:
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Sewsojm Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:59 PM
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22. This greedy bastard
This greedy bastard should be stripped naked then hot tarred & feathered , fuck these wealthy bastards!!



In December 2003 NYSE interim Chairman John Reed, told The Wall Street Journal that Thain would be paid "a plain vanilla number" - about $4 million a year, including bonuses, with no "strange retirement" programs like former CEO Dick Grasso was paid.

Merrill Lynch announced that Mr. Thain will receive at least $50 million per year in compensation and could achieve as much as $120 million per year, depending on the company's stock price. Based on a formula by the Associated Press<1>, in 2007 Thain was the best-paid CEO among the S&P 500 companies, receiving $83.1 million.

As of Dec 8th 2008, Thain suggested to directors that he get a 2008 bonus of as much as $10 million because he saved shareholders money (including himself) by selling to Bank of America. The battered company's compensation committee is resisting his request, the Wall Street Journal said, citing people familiar with the situation.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:46 PM
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23. I hope they develop the appropriate backbone and/or fear
of retribution, and tell him where to put his request.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:24 PM
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25. what a pos
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:18 PM
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26. Bank of America is our enemy. Don't give them any business. nm
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:29 PM
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27. Another poster child for financial re-regulation and limits on CEO compensation


The more outrageous their behaviors, the greater the likelihood that responsible legislation and regulation gets put into place next year.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:36 PM
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28. Go ahead Repukes, I believe you were saying something funny . . .
. . . about how giving the rich money will inspire them to be benevolent!

Idiots. All it does is make them greedier and greedier and for the past 28 years, you've voted to let these assholes loot your money right from out of your paychecks.

This dicktit should get a blue suit and a mug shot. Not a lottery.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:50 PM
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29. I wonder how many jobs that ten million dollars would cover?
A greedy asshole who wants more, at a time when too many people don't have ANYTHING.

What's wrong with this picture?
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:44 PM
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30. John, can we pay you in gold? How about a golden guillotine? nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:48 AM
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31. fire the mother fucker. And make every one of them clen bathrooms in a homeless shelter for a month.
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