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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:52 PM
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College Republicans offer whites-only award
Feb. 15, 2004  |  BRISTOL, R.I. (AP) -- A student group at Roger Williams University is offering a new scholarship for which only white students are eligible, a move they say is designed to protest affirmative action.

The application for the $50 award requires an essay on "why you are proud of your white heritage" and a recent picture to "confirm whiteness."

"Evidence of bleaching will disqualify applicants," says the application, issued by the university's College Republicans.

snip...

It's not the first brush with controversy for the group. The school temporarily froze the Republicans' money in the fall during a fight over a series of articles published in its monthly newsletter. One article alleged that a gay-rights group indoctri nates students into homosexual sex .

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/02/15/college/index.html
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Goldberg Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:54 PM
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1. My God...
those College Republicans are a horrible group of people. Sounds like the assholes that are on my campus. :grr:
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:44 PM
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53. this group
sounds a lot like the KKK, using terms like 'pics to prove your whiteness' and why you are proud of your white heritage.
they may call themselves 'college republicans' but i think they might as well call them 'college aryan nation'


personally i think all college applications, be they for scholarships, entrance in to universities, etc should be done color blind.

its simple to do that. no names on applications, nor sex or race. just your SS# as identification.


peace
david
:hippie:
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:54 PM
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2. A recent picture?????
Do you have to be Aryan white, or just not ethnic?

How disgusting!

http://www.wgoeshome.com


I'm proud to be white because, hey, we'll put a boot in your ass!!!

I would also point out that PRIDE is #1 on the list of deadly sins, and is the sin which leads to all others.

Damn.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:57 PM
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3. Boy these kids are really sheltered arent they
First of all there are plenty of scholarships availible only to Germans, Sweeds, Jews, French, Italians and Poles. Last time I checked these folks were almost all white.

If these kids want to do something productive they could enlist in the armed forces to support the war in Iraq that they so enthusiastically cheered on.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:01 PM
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4. This kid is a hypocrite
Mattera, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is himself is a recipient of a $5,000 scholarship open only to a minority group.

"No matter what my ethnicity is, I'm making a statement that scholarships should be given out based on merit and need," he said.


Then give the fucking money back you pile of shit!!!

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:10 PM
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5. How do they figure out if your white?
You say so, show a picture, have a family tree just how do you prove such a thing? Indians from India are white race and some are very dark. What about the mixed races of the South or do I only know about that. This would be funny if it was not so darn sad. What are we going back to with this group in DC? Is this the 'good old days' they are talking about and 'family values"
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:33 AM
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39. Everyone is "mixed".
Almost every white person in the U.S. has at least some black ancestry. And almost every African American has some white ancestry.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:00 PM
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50. All Americans are African-Americans
it all depends on whether you recognize the fact or not. (Anthropologically speaking). What utter creeps. Sounds like RW college is headed down the tubes with this kind of publicity. It will only deter reasonable students and faculty and attract like-minded bigots. Recipe for colliegiate disaster and mediocrity. The admin must be writhing.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:11 PM
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6. Discrimination is illegal at any college...
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 04:14 PM by mac2
Can't discriminate at any college getting public scholarship money or federal dollars. They probably do.

The college should have this money taken away if they allow this group to practice discriminatory actions.

Gee...I'm always amazed that people are so afraid that homosexual feelings and action might rub off on them. You are gay because, you are born that way. Not the way your Mom combed your hair or what she fed you, who your friends were, etc.

Get educated and "enlightened" while you're at college, Republicans. That's what you are there to do.

Do you think the State Education Dept. or John Ashcroft will move on this? Are they going to leave it to the ACLU...as always?
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Fla_Dem Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:15 AM
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44. somewhat correct
The college itself cannot discriminate, but a private activity at that college does not fall under federal guidelines.
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:14 PM
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7. No point in arguing with College Republicans
Arguing with college republicans is pointless. They think that they have all these clever metaphors for affirmative action like this scholarship and their racist bake sales. Of course, the analogies are utterly flawed; they do not factor in the difficulty that minorities face because of the conservatives and their legacy of racism in America. Yet there is no point in calling attnetion to this. All the CR's see is that rich white people like themselves no longer have quite such an iron grip on the country, and they pine for the world of Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:19 PM
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11. You have to wonder how they were better off?
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 04:24 PM by mac2
How is this influencing their lives now? No servants to wait on them? No colored people to hang, etc.? Most the whites in the south were dirt poor just like the blacks. They had more freedoms but very little otherwise.

The old days were not a good deal for anyone but the few at the top. It was a Plantation society. Is what they pine for...Southern mansions and singing slaves? It is a movie morons. A vision that never existed.
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:52 PM
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14. True
Well, most Southerners didn't own slaves, but they supported it because it gave them someone to look down on. Sure, the poor whites were ignorant, uneducated, and mired in poverty, but at least they weren't owned. I think part of this mentality is reflected in the affirmative action debate today. The Republicans not only want a class to oppress, but they also need a group they can feel superior to. This was the whole mentlity behind Jim Crow, which some conservatives like Trent Lott still miss to this day.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:00 PM
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51. Speaking of which
Would Thurmond's descendants be eligible? How about Thomas Jefferson's?
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:15 PM
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8. Why are they protesting affirmative action? As "whites", they're
the beneficiary of many affirmative actions their whole lives.

And $50? That's FUNNY! About a day's wages at McDonald's.

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 05:28 PM
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17. I always shake my head when someone
Rails against affirmative action, yet fails to even acknowledge that white privilege exists.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:21 PM
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58. No. As spoilt brat Rethuglicans
they are recipients.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:18 PM
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9. Take the skinheads bowling...
Real nice kids... I'm sure their parents must be sooo proud :eyes:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:18 PM
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10. I'm proud of that neat tan my skin gets every summer...
but the moles suck though- I have to put sunblock on those...

Being white is not all fun and games, ya know.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:23 PM
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12. Republican racism?
I'm shocked! </sarcasm>
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:27 AM
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42. This is good. Way to motivate the minority voters, guys!
Let your true colors shine. Repub = Racist.

All of this charade that they are for equality, yada yada yada--they never wore it well anyways.

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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:23 PM
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13. picture to "confirm whiteness" what ????
LOL , these people are a joke...
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 05:29 PM
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18. Will they do the old
One drop of negro blood test?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 05:24 PM
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15. I'm sorry...this is a news flash? What's next, "Water is Wet!"?
I presume it's this kind of assinine attitude that makes thinking people not be Republicans, no?

Remember: Not all conservatives are stupid, but all the stupid are conservative.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 05:28 PM
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16. A white person should win it then give it to a black person...
That would piss them off, wouldn't it?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:22 PM
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59. A white person who does not need it
should win and give it any person who does. But African-American would piss them off more.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 05:58 PM
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19. They have a point, although their methods leave a lot to be desired
<Jason Mattera, 20, who is president of the College Republicans, said the group is parodying minority scholarships.>

Having race-based scholarships is racial discrimination and wrong. They are bringing that to the attention of many people with this. No student who wins a scholarship based on race or ethnicity should be allowed to attend a public university IMO.


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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:06 PM
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30. When the playing field has truly been leveled,
When white privilege has been eliminated. When schools in the inner city produce children as well educated as those in the 'burbs, so that the inner city students truly have the SAME opportunity to get the higher education LEAVE the inner city, THEN they will have a point. But not until then. When things are truly on an equal level, THEN I will agree with you. We are not any where near being there yet.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:43 PM
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55. why don't we...
"When schools in the inner city produce children as well educated as those in the 'burbs, so that the inner city students truly have the SAME opportunity to get the higher education LEAVE the inner city, THEN they will have a point."


If minorities can't get the same education in the inner city as in the suburbs, why don't we fix that, instead of whining about some Republicans?
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:14 PM
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57. Why don't we fix it?
Because it takes money to fix it. Improvements in education are the LAST concern on the political agendas.

Since 1969, Democrats have had control of the White House and Congress for only 6 years, 4 with Carter, and 2 with Clinton. Not a lot of time to make any substantial progress.

It also takes a political will to overcome the problem. If all children are able to get first class educations, who will be left to be the underclass and serve the elite?

The progress that was made was Affirmative Action. These College Republicans, not doubt part of the aforementioned elite are moronic bigots. Nothing more!
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:12 AM
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60. Do the math
Let's see when slaves were brought to Murka...1600's
Slavery ended in the US officially in 1865 (but Jim Crow laws and legal segregation in most aspects of Murkan society prevail)
Segregation in the military finally struck down --mid 60's?
Separate but equal education struck down 1954
Civil rights grudgingly granted 1965.

The question I have for those who question affirmative action, which of these dates after 1865 should have been enough time for Blacks to overcome the ravages of slavery and segregation, and catch up and become equally productive members of the US society?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:17 PM
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20. How very republican
These same people would echo the old republican bullshit that it is better to teach someone to fish than give them fish to eat. (Is that what Jesus did?) However, these republicans do not want to provide any minorities with the OPPORTUNITY to learn to fish.

Racial preferences have been a part of this country's history since the beginning. Very, very, very few people ever complained until blacks began benefiting. It takes a "malignant heart and deceitful tongue."
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:32 PM
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21. ....they're right though
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 06:32 PM by Fixated
I mean....whites have it so hard. I had to take out the garbage today. It was freezing! Can't someone non-white do it for me? </heavy sarcasm>

Assholes.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:35 PM
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22. You'll see your true colors...
..shining through.

Don't be afraid to let them show...

Cyndi Lauper. words of wisdom.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:37 PM
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23. Today's neo-CONfederacy shows their true colors.


Courtesy of the Bartcop Collection
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:20 AM
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46. neo-confederate, indeed
Only a 'neo-confederate' WASP would think that 'whites' are an ethnicity.

As an Irish / Italian American, I'm offended by this. Just because I have the same skin tone as these people doesn't mean I share a culture with them.

Assimilation is death.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:39 PM
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24. i
don't even know what to say...i can only hope they'll learn sooner or later
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 07:02 PM
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25. first prize....a jar of mayonaisse,
second prize...a loaf of white bread,

third pize..a bottle of old spice!!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 07:33 PM
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26. But what if the contest winner
turns out to be Gay?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 07:41 PM
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27. I should send them a picture of me with my right arm in the air.
(but Im just holding the camera with it)
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:32 PM
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28. College Republicans have always been somewhat ignorant
This is no different.

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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:31 AM
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38. They are run by the RNC.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:38 PM
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29. Gee, I'll bet their mothers
are proud of their bigots.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:34 PM
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31. Ah yes, can't leave those poor little white boys behind!
They've only had a couple of thousands of years of privilege to enjoy and abuse.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:53 PM
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32. affirmative action for whites is the historical norm!!
these guys are just being honest about something that's been around in this country since the beginning...
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cprompt Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:00 PM
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56. heres what i don't get about "white privelege"
wtf is it supposed to be and were did I miss mine? this is one issue i guess i don't agree with most here on. i grew up in a lower/middle class home, i got my first job when i was 14 and have worked ever since. i drove a route truck through the worst parts of town at night to pay my way through community college and took student loans for the rest. i am approaching 30 and must have missed it. i don't believe in scholarships or awards for any race but if you are going to have them then shouldn't all be allowed to do so? if not all we are doing is further dividing ourselves.

i firmly believe the only way to fully stop racism is the quit the self imposed segregation that we have in alot of systems nowadays. as long as you have any group receiving benefits another isn't, the other will be jealous and resent that group for it. its human nature. we are a "me" creature. i don't agree with what this group is doing, however i understand its point since honestly there is no "white" race anyways. i have a problem with people celebrating one history but shaming another since everyones history has had some mistakes. i am all for diversity and i believe it is one of this country's greatest strenghts, however until we move pass anyone getting any special anything all we are doing is pissing in the wind saying "yeah but they do too"
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:10 PM
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33. W could speak to how he has benefitted from affirmative action
He got where he is due to a class based affirmative action program...

Got in Andover because Daddy went there
Although not a stellar student at Andover, he got into Yale because he was a two generation Legacy...daddy and Grandpappy attended Yale...
Got into Skull & Bones because Daddy was in S&B
Although a C student at Yale..was admitted to the MBA program at Harvard University.

I think affirmative action should be broadened to include class as well as race. Lower middle class and working class whites do face an uphill struggle to better their situation. If they are the first in their families to attend college it can be daunting. For many lower middle class whites they have no idea of what to expect at a college or university because there is no one in their family who has had that experience. Many are also seen as thinking themselves better than their relatives should they be successful in attaining a degree (which is not a guarantee considering the drop out rate for college students who come from the lower middle and working class.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:14 PM
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34. Why Don't College Dems pull a Stunt Like this?
You know - like a cookie sale in which if you're a legacy you get your cookie for free, but if you're not you have to pay $2.50?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:53 PM
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35. Because college dems have more damn sense!
These little repug pukes act like the down trodden martyrs. Sickening.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:27 AM
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36. Did they give the shade of "White" that they want you to be?
Probably Albino White right?

Did the idiots know that some people of other races are just as white as a white....whatever that means.....they are nuts.
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The Blue Knight Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:54 AM
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37. It basically boils down to this...
How dare them negros get the upper hand over us cornfed honkies!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:13 AM
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40. Why not just call themselves the KKK?
What the hell's the difference?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:17 AM
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41. This Could Be Countered With a Group offering a scholarship for rich only
maybe they'd understand how COMPLETELY STUPID they're being.

idiot, racist repukes.. this kind of press is bad for them, but they are too ignorant to realize it.

meanwhile, it's the democratic party whose numbers swell with those who aren't good enough to eat at the head table.. we outnumber the rich and priveledged.. and we VOTE!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:14 AM
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43. makes my heart glad
to see the republican party having such a tough time going from the party of racists and bigots to the party of crypto-racists and crypto-bigots. things like this are some of the best anti-republican PR possible.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:19 AM
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45. F***ing pathetic
these arrogant little privleged twits don't have a f***ing clue, do they?
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:26 AM
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47. It's a "joke". Just like Rush is an "entertainer".
That way they can do or say anything they want because, hey, they're "only kidding".

"Where's your sense of humor, you crabby ol' libruls, anyway? Can't you take a joke? You must be like some kind of NAZIS or something. Ha ha, just kidding!"
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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:01 PM
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48. Fifty Dollars?
This stunt is not only blatant, it's worthless.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:26 PM
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52. It's not worth the effort or the notoriety
Fifty dollars is not worth the time it takes to fill out an application. Not to mention, "White Pride Award" is not something to highlight on the resume.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:45 PM
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49. College Republicans- Hate Group.
This should get them listed officially as a hate group. I hope the good people at Southern Poverty Law Center and B'nai B'rith, take the initiative.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 06:13 PM
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54. Does Clarence Thomas have any college age kids?
Never mind.
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Nebraska_Liberal Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:10 AM
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61. Republicans = hatemongers
Didn't you know? Ask any member of the KKK who they vote for...

Ned
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:38 AM
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62. The reason why I ask is because maybe they can apply for this. Who knows?
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