MA congressman meets Chavez in Venezuela

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

MA congressman meets Chavez in Venezuela
3/20/2009, 5:13 a.m. EDT
The Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Massachusetts Congressman William Delahunt has met with President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and says he's encouraged about the possibilities of improved relations between Venezuela and the United States.

The Democrat says he had a "very positive and constructive conversation" with Chavez.

Delahunt, who has visited with Chavez previously, says came away from the meeting at the presidential palace on Thursday night "feeling better about the possibilities between the United States and Venezuela."

The congressman won't speculate about the possibility of an eventual Chavez-Obama meeting. But he says there is a desire on Obama's part "to have a good relationship" and says he's confident Chavez also wants good relations.



Read more: http://www.masslive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/news-39/123754074110060.xml&storylist=massnews

[Captain Hilts]

1. Chavez is an idiot with the manners of a six year old. nt

[Bodhi BloodWave]

5. Sounds more like you are projecting your own flaws on him n/t

[No Elephants]

2. Yet, poor people in chilly Massachusetts are grateful for his donations of home heating fuel. Joe

Kennedy asked every oil company for help. Only Citgo responded. The elderly, moms with young kids, war vets, etc., all grateful. They literally owe him their lives.

[WriteDown]

3. Yep...

Instead of getting windmills off Nantucket they get to suck on that sweet, sweet teet of the Dark Mother.

[Judi Lynn]

4. It's probably not the people in Nantucket who needed the oil, is it?

"....they get to suck on that sweet, sweet teet of the Dark Mother." This is probably the oddest, and ugliest thing I've ever seen posted here.

For your future reference, the oil went to the people in the big cities, and all the Democratic politicians were there when the first shipment was delivered, AFTER American oil companies, as No Elephants has pointed out, absolutely REFUSED to accommodate the earnest pleas from Democratic Congressmen, and the heads of Native American tribes to make discounted heating oil available for the poorest members of the community.

Take a step in a new direction and spend some time trying to inform yourself on the subjects about which you already formed such intense emotional reactions.

[WriteDown]

10. Different issue entirely....

I forgot that Hugo's oil is "good" oil. I guess he personally blesses it and removes all the pollutants. Read something that is not from a Latin American blog for once.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/sunday/main560595.shtml

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[fascisthunter]

11. ignore them

and alert on them.

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[WriteDown]

9. Yeah, supporting wind power and not oil is right wing...

I forgot that as long as the oil comes from Hugito then its "good" oil.

No,Nantucket is Nantucket

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/sunday/main560595.shtml

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[WriteDown]

21. Done rambling?

Not sure what point you are trying to make. Its fairly obvious that the NIMBY's have been blocking wind power in Nantucket for years. And your right, I do partially blame the Kennedy's for that debacle. I really don't care who the alternative energy comes from as long as it gets here and words.

As far as profiles go, you've got the wrong guy. I'm just a left-leaning (on social issues) herpetologist.

[No Elephants]

22. And right leaning on everything else. In other words, a con, just not a neo theo. Not a Dem. And

your point about belonging on a board for Democratic posters would be?

[WriteDown]

23. No...

Not right at all. Just a traditional economist and MBA. You know, price controls don't work, lead to black markets, that kind of thing.

Belong here? Never said that. I'm also extremely pro-union which led me here.

[No Elephants]

24. I have not seen a post yet that is even center, let alone left. Classic RW consistently. And,

if you will look at my name, you may get that I joined because I was tired of posting on boards where Republicans and alleged "Libertarians" were welcome to post with Democrats.

Which is why I get especially annoyed when that kind of poster posts here.

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[No Elephants]

27. A lot of people here post right wing on this issue, left on that one. Some here

also post anti-Obama consistently, if they are still upset over the primary, or they are consistently to the left of Obama. (I have posted anti-Obama, but by no means consistently.)

Yet, I have identified only 3 or 4 posters here as consistently RW and no one has identified me as RW (well, not after my very first thread).

There are "Tells."

[WriteDown]

31. Nothing to prove...

but if you want, search my posts on unions. I guess I'm "old" liberal on that because I support GM and Ford. "New" liberal seems to be about bashing GM and saying that union workers expect too much.

On econ, I am definitely not for socialism, but I freely admit that.

[No Elephants]

32. Not for socialism is a red herring. Not many here are. Claiming that Obama is a socialist, or

that a spending bill is socialist, however, are RW.

Turns out Bush, Bernanke and Paulson may be the biggest socialists in America.

Not only did they advocate for it, but they created the conditions that required it.

[WriteDown]

28. Not sure why my last post was deleted...

But I was saying that your posts on the some would consider your POSTS on AIG clawbacks to be "less liberal" than most or at least moderate. You seem to have a sensible approach though.

[No Elephants]

30. I have no idea, either. I alert only on racist or homophobic posts. I've started on genderism

as well, but I don't hold out much hope for action on that one.

BTW, contrary to your post upthread, you have indeed claimed to belong here. You make that claim every time you post anything here.

Thank you for the compliment on my approach on the refunds (would not call them clawbacks). It has evolved.

[wuushew]

16. How would wind generated electricity replace old oil furnaces?

:shrug:

Electric heat is not economical in most parts of the nation, especially compared to natural gas

[WriteDown]

17. True enough....

When I lived in NY we had an old oil furnace. At that time, oil was only 25 cents a gallon though(heating oil). It is too bad that gas heat isn't more readily available up North.

[stillcool]

33. I'm sure you've seen all the wind turbines..

going up all over the place, right? I'm sure you know, but here's the latest about the wind-farms in Buzzards Bay.

http://www.buzzardsbay.org/windfarms.htm

what do you have against the elderly and the poor getting help so they don't freeze to death?

[Freddie Stubbs]

6. Oil wouldn't be so expensive if Chavez and other oil barons didn't limit production

[No Elephants]

8. Maybe so, but only Citgo is giving some back to keep at least some

Americans from freezing to death during bitter New England winters. Not Exxon, or Aramco, et al.

[janet118]

13. After Bush refused Chavez's offer of aid after Katrina . . .

I wrote to the Venezuelan ambassador and said that, if Bush wouldn't accept the oil that his country was offering, President Chavez should contact Joe Kennedy so that the poor in Massachusetts might benefit from his generosity. Of course, it probably helped that Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) has had a long relationship with Hugo Chavez dating back years before 2005 and the two men are friends.

[fascisthunter]

12. Delahunt does a pretty good job for folks in Mass

good on him and thank you Chavez for the oil.

[RufusTFirefly]

14. Shame on the AP. They violated the unwritten law of American Chavez reporting

All articles dealing with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez must call him a "leftist" at least once and mention Fidel Castro regardless of whether it is germane to the story.

[nichomachus]

15. It could just be that they feel it no longer needs to be said

It doesn't take long to cement things firmly in the mind of the booboisie -- and they can supply the missing words themselves. It's kind of a Pavlovian response. Say "Chavez" and the booboisie will start chanting "Commie, Castro, Kill."

[EFerrari]

20. It's so good to wake up in the morning without the fear that Bush is going to start another

self-serving conflict that will get a lot of people killed, wounded and displaced.

[devilgrrl]

26. Oh no! Hugo Chavez will tear his heart out of his chest and EAT IT!!!!!

:sarcasm:

[EFerrari]

29. Hugo Chavez doesn't have a heart. He sold it to Iran!

[Judi Lynn]

34. Chávez meets with US Congressman William Delahunt

CARACAS, Friday March 20, 2009
Chávez meets with US Congressman William Delahunt

Venezuela’s President Hugo Chávez met Thursday night with US House representative (D- Massachusetts) William Delahunt.

Delahunt said upon leaving the Palace of Miraflores (the presidential palace in Caracas) that they have had a "constructive" conversation, as witnessed by Nicolás Maduro, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, who attended the meeting.

"As President (Barack) Obama has pointed out, it is very important to have a dialogue. I know that President Obama wants to improve our relationships, not just with Venezuela but with all countries, in general," Delahunt stressed.

The lawmaker said that "(President Obama), President Chávez, Minister Maduro and I have the goal of having a peaceful world, a world without poverty, a world where the human rights of every woman and every child are respected. We want to leave behind us the problems of the past, but we also want to draw a lesson from that experience," Delahunt said.

Finally, he thanked Maduro for being present at the meeting and bid farewell, adding that he would attend the meeting of the Heads of State of the hemisphere that will be held in Trinidad and Tobago.

http://english.eluniversal.com/2009/03/20/en_pol_esp_chavez-meets-with-us_20A2261647.shtml
Opposition newspaper