IOWA Supreme Court Uphold Marriage Equality

[DU9598]

Source: Des Moines Register

Iowa Supreme Court unanimously rules in favor of Marriage Equality

Read more: www.dmregister.com

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Woo Hoo! Way to go Iowa

Here is a link to the decision: <http://www.desmoinesregister.com/assets/pdf/D213209243.PDF>

[saltpoint]

1. Very good news, and almost tailor-made to piss off Tony Perkins.

Happy Friday, everybody.

[TommyO]

2. Thank you, IOWA!

[bluestateguy]

3. Ballot initiative in 3...2...1

This is all getting to be so predictable.

The SecState must quash any possible ballot initiative immediately.

[DU9598]

5. Not possible in Iowa

[Maven]

22. It isn't?

That's great news!

Why isn't it?

[DU9598]

23. Not allowed

However, Republicans will push for a constitutional amendment, but that will take at least 6 years if the math is correct.

[Ms. Toad]

113. One article I read said 2012.

Two consecutive legislative session, followed by a vote.

By the time they get around to that, folks will be so used to Jane and Sarah, or Bob and Kyle, that it will be a non-issue.

[FreeState]

131. Dem leadership will not allow it to come up either so its longer than that

The Democratic leadership in both the Iowa House and Iowa Senate have pledged to block any Amendment and their full statement is behind the cut.

http://www.bilerico.com/2009/04/defend_iowa.php

[Beartracks]

165. Bob & Kyle?

Whatever happened to Adam and Steve? :P

[Ms. Toad]

173. I was being creative. n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

179. Divorced? -nt

[roody]

185. They got married in San Francisco.

[t0dd]

4. Really??? Really??? The iowacourts website is down!

Omg, thats amazing!!!

[rateyes]

6. Off to the greatest with you. K & R in honor of Iowa's SC, and in

dishonor of homophobes.

[rurallib]

7. I feel my marriage of 35 years breaking apart suddenly

Any fireworks going off over there in DM? I may even turnthat asshole Mickelson on the radio just to laugh at him.
This line in the story really made me LOL

"Kuhle argued that same-sex marriage could loosen the definition of marriage to include polygamy. Future generations might discard the institution if they come to believe that opposite-sex parents are not necessary, he argued." (been hearing that since the first POSSLQ back in the 60s.)
And then this old gem:
"Kuhle said state support for same-sex marriage would teach future generations that marriage is no longer about procreation despite thousands of years of history."

I am going to see several Repug legislators tomorrow. I will try to get their (laughable) opinion.

[Debi]

40. Are you finding yourself strangely attracted to box turtles???

:rofl:

[varelse]

117. ...

just when I thought it was safe to drink coffee while browsing DU on my lunch break... :spray:

[Debi]

135. DU is never safe for coffee drinking w/out one of these

[denem]

136. If they're sitting six foot high on top of a post

... could do worse.

[rosesaylavee]

78. Polygamy. Really.

Will that be allowed for females as well as males? Otherwise, I am going to fight it. :)

Yay - Go Iowa!

[Tashca]

84. I turned on Mickelson this morning

I don't normally listen to hate radio, but I couldn't resist.....I laughed and laughed....they are freaking out!!!!!!!!!!

I heard one say something about taking out Craig Paulson the Republican leader in the House....he is in my district....I sincerely hope they find a good evangelical to take Mr.Paulson down in the primary. I would love to see my district go Democrat!!

[sui generis]

125. Marriage stopped being about procreation

when we didn't start enforcing the "bust out 3.5 kids or you'll be soilent green" rule.

Anyway if procreation is the goal then what does marriage have to do with fucking? Believe me there would be a LOT more kids if men didn't have to get married or be held accountable for fathering a child.

There would probably be EVEN MORE kids if men could bear children too. I know my partner and I keep trying.

:evilgrin:

[pleah]

8. K&R

:applause:

[Election_Correction]

9. As a former Hawkeye & Johnson County Democrat I have to say

HOT DAMN!!!!

To any righties who may read this I have a few pertinent questions that maybe you can answer
a) Does this mean I have to divorce my wife?
b) If so will you tell her for me, cuz I don't think she will believe me?

<sarcasm off />

[emmadoggy]

10. I already replied on the other thread about this,

but I am SO HAPPY about this I had to reply to this one also!!!

YIPPPPEEEEEE!! I am so proud of my state today!


:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[TEmperorHasNoClothes]

11. another reason to love Iowa

[PageOneQ]

12. Iowa Supreme Court: Marriage Ban Unconstitutional (AP)

Source: Associated Press

The Iowa Supreme Court says the state's same-sex marriage ban violates the constitutional rights of gay and lesbian couples, making it the third state where gay marriage is legal.

In a unanimous ruling issued Friday, the court upheld a 2007 Polk County District Court judge's ruling that the law was unconstitutional.

The case stems from a 2005 lawsuit filed by Lambda Legal, a New York-based gay rights organization. The group filed a lawsuit on behalf of six gay and lesbian Iowa couples who were denied marriage licenses.

Read more: http://pageoneq.com/stories/IOWA_SUPREME_COURT_MARRIAGE_BAN_UNCONSTITUTI_0403.html

[WillParkinson]

13. Hoe. Lee. Fudge.

I would not have believed it possible.

Awesome.

[zulchzulu]

14. WAY COOL!

Breaking news...

Go to http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=1 NOW!

Court Unanimously Rules Same-Sex Marriage OK

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The Iowa Supreme Court announced its ruling in a landmark same-sex marriage case Friday morning.
Read Court's Ruling On Same-Sex Marriage (pdf)

The justices ruled unanimously in favor of six same-sex couples who sought to get marriage licenses, but were denied.

The 69 page ruling means same-sex couples in Iowa can now get married under state law. The ruling said that the Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution.

The decision strikes the language from Iowa Code section 595.2 limiting civil marriage to a man and a woman. It further directs that the remaining statutory language be interpreted and applied in a manner allowing gay and lesbian people full access to the institution of civil marriage.

http://www.kcci.com/news/19077125/detail.html

[MineralMan]

15. Most Excellent!

Fundamentalcase heads exploding...film at eleven.

[Mari333]

16. whoop whoop whoop!!! nt

[NashVegas]

17. Duplicate. Go Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3813200

[DU9598]

24. Not a duplicate - mine was first, I checked before posting

[NashVegas]

178. That Was In Response

to #11 ... it's now a combined thread.

[blueclown]

18. Iowa? Wow!

And a unanimous decision too!

[PageOneQ]

19. It's not a duplicate, the others are NOT articles

IT's not a duplicate.
The first link is the the front page of a paper
The second one is to a PDF
This one is the Associated Press, sourced article by the AP./

[Bertha Venation]

20. Yes!

:cry:

[emmadoggy]

21. Whooooeeeee!!!!!

This makes me very proud of my state today.


:party: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[AlbertCat]

30. Really! Makes Iowa KEWLER than CA....

Take that homophobic CA! (they should be soooo embarrassed!)

[Richd506]

27. I tell you I'm really beginning to like that Iowa

They gave Obama the momentum he needed during the primary and now they've legalized same-sex marriage. Keep up the good work.

[Zhade]

180. And yet bigots in California made it illegal, and upheld the ban.

NT!

[Veruca Salt]

197. Boggles the mind doesn't it?

CA was one of the states I thought would be among the first to have and uphold equal marriage. I never expected it from Iowa of all places! Hot damn I am still so happy to hear this! It's such a win for civil rights and in one of the least likely places! :woohoo:

[Bluenorthwest]

25. Iowa is the new California

Delivering suprises and moving toward the future at evey turn!

[Deep13]

46. Less smog, though.

:hi:

[Veruca Salt]

26. OMG GO IOWA!!!

This is awesome news!! :woohoo: :applause:

Just what I needed this morning!

[Name removed]

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[wryter2000]

28. Hooray for Iowa!

Unanimously, yet. :wow: :woohoo: :applause:

I'm going to keep buying that Maytag cheese!

[tekisui]

29. knr!~

[SteppingRazor]

31. That's excellent. But...

I hate to be the sour grapes here, but all this ruling does is necessitate a state constitutional amendment specifically forbidding gay marriage. Or am I misreading something?

[Deep13]

34. Yes, this depends on state law.

I don't know what the amendment process is in Iowa. Hopefully, the epidemic of rationality that has lately swept the country will help defeat such a measure.

[AtlMike]

43. Amendments in Iowa

The process in Iowa is an amendment has to get simple majoritys in two consecutive legislatures then it goes to a popular vote. The Dems control the legislature so it is not expected to be brought up in the remaining couple of weeks in this session. Therefore the very earliest it could be enacted would be 2012.

[No Elephants]

77. Im Massachusetts, the Legislature simply did not act on it after the high court decided

that gay marriage violated the state's Equal Protection Clause. After two sessions, it apparently became too late to reverse the Court's decision. (Not sure of the legal ins and outs.) No one in Massachusetts even talks about gay marriage anymore. It's a non-issue. Could not be happier.

[DU9598]

47. Correct, but

the amendment process will take approximately 6 years, if not longer. Plus, the majority leaders - both Democrats - said no action will be taken, so the amendment process may take even longer. In 6-8 years will it even be an issue?

[PensiveGadfly]

155. Re: Constitutional Amendment

Steppingrazor: You're right, all they need to do is amend the Iowa constitution. BUT, that will take at least until 2011 because the process for actually changing the constitution in Iowa takes a long time. AND there are Dems controlling both state houses who will not let a constitutional amendment bill come up for a while. This could well stick for several years.

[Pirate Smile]

182. The state has 3 weeks to make it happen. The IOWA Supreme Court gave a deadline.

In three weeks, gay couples can get married in Iowa. No ifs, ands or buts. That's it. It's done.

[Deep13]

32. Des Moines hit by lightning, turned to salt.

No? Huh. Then what the fuck are these TV preachers talking about, then?

[cbc5g]

33. AWESOME news this morning!

woot woot

[Debi]

35. MWAH!!! Thanks for the 'on the spot' reporting this morning!!

:bounce:

What a great day to be an Iowan!!

[DU9598]

48. You can call anytime ... just watch the traffic ahead!

[Blue Gardener]

169. I love our state!

First Obama, now this! I guess we aren't all a bunch of hicks.

[Pirate Smile]

183. Some from Wisconsin called into Stephanie Miller and was shocked because they thought

Iowa "was just a bunch of hicks". I was thinking - hey, Wisconsin, we are friggin neighbors, you think you are sophisticated and we are hicks like there is a big difference when you cross the Mississippi. What an idiot. I'd expect that from someone on the coasts but, geez, we are essentially the same area.

Obviously, too many Iowa jokes have been focused on Minnesota. They need to be switched to Wisconsin. ;)

[closeupready]

36. CA, don't you feel like a bunch of fools now?

Way to go, Iowa! :woohoo:

[keepCAblue]

70. Only 52% of them do. n/t

[cascadiance]

81. And a number of us in the other percentage have left the state since voting too...

Don't know how many, but California's losing a lot of us that are getting disgusted with the problems of housing, cost of living, and in some areas attitudes that allow for such BS like prop 8 to pass...

Proud to have been a college grad and resident of Iowa for so many earlier years. Iowans may be conservative in some parts of the states, but they really do think about the big picture in many areas. As a caucus state, they train themselves to talk about things before they vote on them!

If you are in the health care industry, and are looking for a place friendly to gays, and where the per-capita level of education is higher than most places, Iowa City would be a great place to go to now, if you don't mind the snowy weather (and now it would appear some potential for floods) for parts of the year... It already has one of the highest per-capita gay populations, per-capita population with college degrees, and its university hospital for many years lead the country in the number of beds it had in it. That might have changed since then.

And for a while, it's concert hall, Hancher Auditorium, was second only to the Met in terms of its accoustics, since it shared a lot of the design that building had.

Aside from the weather I loved the place.

[Divine Discontent]

88. yep!

I moved from there a month ago. Too exp. up north. Back in Cristville! ha from one Mickey state to another.

I think a good 10% of people went in to the voting booth not knowing wth they were even voting for or against - and got confused. There's too many progressive in CA to have a 52% majority say they want to remove rights. Some maybe thought by saying no they were saying no to marriage rights, who knows, because as I age, I get slightly more befuddled when put in pressure situations, lol. Most people I ever met were very open-minded, of course I didn't visit small towns outside the major population zones, but even there, there's a good 35% of people that are hateful. Let's hope this Iowa deal kicks off something great!!! Good luck wherever you are & God bless us, everyone.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

94. My take on Iowans ...

cascadiance wrote: "Proud to have been a college grad and resident of Iowa for so many earlier years. Iowans may be conservative in some parts of the states, but they really do think about the big picture in many areas. As a caucus state, they train themselves to talk about things before they vote on them!"

Having grown up and lived there through my 20s, I would agree with you on the comment about big picture thinking. My take has always been that Iowans *tend* to vote with a more open mind than they live and conduct their own lives ("Sears clothing is fine. Don't wanna be puttin' on airs there, son."). However, when it comes to desserts, you'll always find some dandy has put marshmellows in the jello.

Good day for Iowa and all of us.

[Webster Green]

130. I don't feel like a fool, because I didn't vote for that crap.

I'm pissed that a lot of Californians fell for the relentless ads paid for by out-of-state religious fanatics. :mad:

And, they voted that asshole Governator into office. :wtf:

[closeupready]

37. And WOW, UNANIMOUS.

Awesome.

[Twinguard]

38. Way to go, Iowa!

And congrats to Iowans!

[backscatter712]

39. AWESOME!!!

:party: :toast: :bounce: :beer: :dem: :fistbump: :headbang: :yourock: :applause:

Now we just have to get the SCOTUS to enforce the full-faith-and-credit clause in the Constitution, so all other states are required to recognize gay marriages from the states where it is legal!

And watch the fundies go apeshit!!! :popcorn:

[DuaneBidoux]

41. AWESOME AWESOME AW SOME--And in Iowa no less. This is huge.

And that is an understatement. I'm pretty sure that even though state constitutions are all different other state supreme courts will take this into their consideration as legal precedent for their bans as well.

It is possible that in spite of the way things have looked we could be on the front end of an avalanche. That is what happened with civil rights for African Americans.

[liberal N proud]

42. A lot has changed in Iowa since I grew up

I left Iowa 30 years ago thinking it was a very conservative state.

[harun]

139. I am from Wisconsin and I think the Repug's have moved so far to

the right that the mid-west couldn't go with them. Everyone I know from the mid-west who used to be a Republican is now a Dem. They saw the right wing going fascist and said "no thanks". IMHO.

[Tashca]

142. Lots of truth to your statement

Possibly the person who should get the most credit for propelling Iowa back to the left....is George W. Bush.

[Kajsa]

44. Way to go, IOWA!

Finally, some good news in this battle for equality!


:D :applause: :yourock:

[DKRC]

45. As Iowa goes, so goes the nation!

:applause:

Great job Iowa!

:applause:

:yourock:

[BattyDem]

97. First Obama, now this!

Maybe we should start calling Iowa the "visionary" state! :D The closed minds in this country could learn a lot from them. :patriot:

[DKRC]

133. Works for me

I'm hoping that the momentum has built to such a degree that Iowa's SC decision will be looked back on as the tipping point!
Imagine that, equal rights for everyone!
:woohoo:

[shadowknows69]

49. Freeper heads exploding in 3-2-1

How long until the Rethugs demand that Iowa is no longer the first Primary caucus?

[shadowknows69]

50. Very large demonstrations in every other state right now would be a good idea

Or huge paper letter campaigns. The rest of the country needs to be publicly made to take a stand on this right now.


Edit to add: and so does our new President and Congress.

[JackDragna]

51. Today I'm damned proud to be an Iowan.

eom

[bigwillq]

52. YAY!

:bounce: That's great!

[liberalmuse]

53. I used to work with some people in Iowa...

I'd only spoke with them on the phone, but they were really cool and open-minded. Who'd a figured a midwestern state would beat CA (well, sort of) to the equal marriage rights punch? YeSSSSSSSS!!!

[CoffeeCat]

54. Unanimous Ruling: Iowa Marriage No Longer Limited to One Man One Woman

Source: Des Moines Register

The Iowa Supreme Court this morning unanimously upheld gays’ right to marry.

“The Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution,” the justices said in a summary of their decision.

The court rules that gay marriage would be legal in three weeks, starting April 24.
Advertisement
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The court affirmed a Polk County District Court decision that would allow six gay couples to marry.

Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090403/NEWS/90403010

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I love my Progressive state! First, we voted for Obama in the caucuses, and now this landmark ruling. Priceless!

[Frustratedlady]

55. Amen, I agree.

[Tesibria]

56. It's a great day - Please DU the poll at the end of the article! eom

[cliffordu]

57. Well this is most excellent...

And, I never thought I'd say this, but:

Hey California, take a hint!!!!!

[SacredCow]

58. The best Freeper quote, thus far:

"1. This is scary. Unlike Massachusetts, Iowa is an agricultural breadbasket. Watch crop yields plumett now. God takes His revenge in many ways. Just ask those people burned out of their homes (or had their crops dry up from drought) in California. Russia’s crop yields plummeted too, once she became an atheistic nation in 1922.

2. The Iowa governor and legislature should tell the Iowa Supreme Court, in effect, “go to hell, we’re not doing a damn thing to make same-sex marriage legal”, just like old Andy Jackson did with the SCOTUS regarding the Cherokee. The Iowa Supreme Court has no “divisions”, so it cannot enforce its decrees if no one goes along."

:eyes:

[MineralMan]

61. I saw that one, too.

I guess whatever deity that person worships isn't such a nice deity. Imagine punishing everyone for people being in love with each other. That's not any sort of deity I'd be interested in.

[Debi]

63. Chuckled at the first quote - guess they were on vacation when Iowa was hit by tornados

and floods that destroyed 2/3 of our state last year (when Iowa DIDN'T have equal rights for all).

:rofl:

[SacredCow]

67. Yep....

The God they believe in isn't very consistent, is he?

[HillWilliam]

128. Oh Noes!11!!1 Teh gay haz invaded Ioway! Fludd, fammin, and fars to follow!

Film at eleven.

[Tesha]

156. Ya know, it's just one plague after another 'round here in Massachusetts...

since they legalized that homosexual marriage. Frogs, locusts, the
Charles River running red with blood, Superbowl trophies, World
Series victories, Basketball championships, it's just been Hell!

Tesha

[HillWilliam]

200. Not to mention the horrendous shame

of the economic boost the floral, bakery, wedding planning and officiant industries are getting. I'm a wedding officiant myself and if NC weren't so damned backwards, I'd appreciate the economic boost. Weddings, period, have been off this year and those I've been doing have been downsized. If I had the right to marry my partner (which I'd dearly, dearly love) I'd equally love to be able to marry my GLBT brothers and sisters really and truly instead of just the church-union ceremony I can provide now.

I have this notion, y'know? How is it that it's okay for the fundies to bitch about same-sex marriage somehow being the state telling them how to practice their religion when no-one is telling them they have to marry same-sex couples, yet it's not okay for me to bitch that the state is ALREADY telling me how to practice MY religion by forbidding ME to marry same-sex couples?

IMHO, that makes both the state and the wackogelicals hypocrites. It seems to be adding hypocrisy to hypocrisy that even if my partner and I went to Massachusetts or Iowa to get married, neither NC nor the fed would recognize it anyway. So much for "full faith and credit".

For now, I refuse to be in a bad mood over that. I'm gonna celebrate the hell out of one more small victory in Iowa!

[Tim01]

59. *Packing my bags now*

[jaxx]

60. I think it's wonderful.

Living next door, in Illinois, you put us to shame. Good for Iowa!!!

[Debi]

62. Except for that whole 'right to work' status Iowa holds....

x(

We took one step forward - we have plenty more to go!! :hi:

[druidity33]

166. more info?

what's this "right to work" status?

:shrug:

[Bill McBlueState]

174. see here

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/legislativealert/stateissues/work/

[druidity33]

195. thanks for the info/link.

I didn't see a list of states on their site though. I know i live in a state (MA) that is an "at will" state, but to be honest, i'm not entirely sure what that means either... except it lets the big guys screw the little guys.

:shrug:

[SpookyCat]

64. Just freaking awesome!

I'm torn between joy and happiness for Iowa, and deep shame for my beloved California. I can't believe that Iowa is now more progressive than my state. No slam against Iowa, just I grew up hearing and believing that we were the biggest freaks on the block.

Congratulations Iowa DUers! ::applause:

[blur256]

65. Good step in the right direction...

I'm very proud of my neighbors to the north! I'm sure the Bible thumpers down here in southwest MO are cringing at the thought that we have (gasp) gays being treated equally so close to us. Hopefully this will start a trend! :) :toast:

[BattyDem]

66. Congratulations Iowa!

Let the weddings begin! :bounce:

[DU9598]

69. Come to Iowa ... get married ... spend lots of money!

You will be welcomed with open arms!

[Debi]

138. So says Senator Matt McCoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmaHqDHTyC8

:)

[Marnieworld]

68. As Iowa goes so goes the country

Well they used to say that about CA. Iowa? I am thrilled.

[keepCAblue]

71. Goes in effect in 21 days. Iowa residency not required. n/t

[patrick t. cakes]

72. thays my state.

des moines rally tonight at 5;30
gateway park downtown des moines.:woohoo:

[keepCAblue]

73. The SOONEST this could be overturned, according to political analysts...

would be 2012....A LOT can happen in 3 years; the tide could have turned by then and hopefully people will leave it be.

[imdjh]

137. I don't understand how it can be overturned without repealing the constitution....

.... al foundation for the ruling.

I haven't read the decision but if the decision says that marriage can't be denied to gay people because the constitution provides for "equal protection" then wouldn't an amendment to overturn the verdict require the repeal off "equal protection"?

[keepCAblue]

171. The analysts were supposing the legislature would be...

the ones to overturn this, by approving a constitutional ban. It takes two consecutive legislative sessions (i.e., two years) to approve a constitutional amendment. And because key power players in the Iowa legislature (ruled by Dems) have stated they believe there are more important issues to spend their time on during this current session (jobless rate, flooding, etc.), it is doubtful there would be any action during the current session regarding a constitutional ban. Thus, it'd be at least three years before any constitutional amendment could be passed legislatively and subsequently handed over to voters at the ballot box.

[keepCAblue]

172. Apparently not. As in the case of California's Prop 8...

As the Supremes in the CA case suggested, there is the ability to simply insert "exceptions" into the equal protection clause.

[Lugnut]

75. Very cool!

:applause:

[tomm2thumbs]

76. K&R Thanks for posting

here here!

[hangman86]

79. Way to go Iowa!

Another dagger in the Christian Right's side.

[rosesaylavee]

80. So Iowa is more progressive than California?

Whoo - hoo! Go Midwest!

[NewJeffCT]

83. Has the California Supreme Court weighed in on the legality of Prop 8 yet?

I believe this means that Iowa's Supreme Court said that the Iowa law that bans gay marriage (or defines it as a man & a woman) was illegal. I'm not sure if that was by a vote, or if it was passed by the state legislature?

[rosesaylavee]

87. I am so out of the loop ... I don't know.

last I read here earlier this week is that it was most likely that the California supremes were going to uphold Prop 8 and it was getting kicked to the legislature to resolve.

This looks like Iowa is fixing their legal/illegality thing but I haven't read anything about it yet. On my lunch hour.

[ronnykmarshall]

82. That's so wonderful!!

[NewJeffCT]

85. How many of these judges were appointed by Republicans?

Just curious, as I know Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc will start shrieking about activist judges, even if all the judges were appointed by Republicans. (I'm also pretty sure that no judges on Connecticut's Supreme Court were appointed by Democrats...)

[Naythan]

194. from my understanding...

Iowa's supreme court judges are elected by the people.

[dorkulon]

86. Have the locusts arrived yet?

:evilgrin:

[Blue Gardener]

170. I'm looking out the window

And all I see is blue sky and sunshine! :bounce:

[Politicub]

89. Wonderful news! Thank you Iowa!

A sea change in public opinion is taking place. Let's hope Pres. Obama and our federal gov't catch up.

[ObamaKerryDem]

90. YAYYY!! :D

Iowa getting marriage equality..before California? Who would've thought?!? But then again, they did help to bring us President Obama! :D lol So...GO IOWA!!:bounce:

Today's a really good day for Civil Rights in America!

[lolamio]

91. Wow! That is just really freaking cool!!! Well done, Iowa! n/t

[KamaAina]

92. So that's why Cedar Rapids flooded!

as well as other areas in Iowa: god, being omniscient, knew this was coming in advance, and decided to wreak his wrath ahead of time!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[wellstone dem]

whoo hoo, that means ND and MINN. are next

way to go God.

[utford]

93. Deleted

[bear425]

96. Don't marry a gay person then.

Not that you would have any takers.

[BattyDem]

98. I 'm willing to bet that God has a bigger problem with ...

war crimes and torture than he does with love.

[DevonRex]

99. May God have mercy on YOU. nt

[hasidic acid]

101. Where's that fucking fiddle when I need it? Oh,

:nopity:

[patrick t. cakes]

102. stay far away from iowa then.

please stay very far away.

[Divine Discontent]

109. and this too....

:)

[Quantess]

103. May God have mercy on you, that is.

Stick to worrying about your own family and your own soul. Other people don't need you worrying about God's mercy upon them.

[Duncan Grant]

104. Move to Utah -- the Mormons would love to have you.

:hi:

[Divine Discontent]

106. is this my PASTOR??? don't toy with me man, is this you? LOL I got on him for his "all of a sudden"

interest in the troubles of our world ever since President Obama got in office - you'd think abortion was just invented when Obama got in according to my pastor! I told him, where was your righteous anger about the abortions that W allowed for 8 years? He LITERALLY is rabid about it now, embarrassingly so. I told him that yes, I wish people didn't have abortions but it's their right to decide, and the same goes with Gay people finding love and wanting to have equal rights - so, Mr Utah Ford, let me tell you - it's NONE of your business what a happy in love, and very possibly CHRIST loving Lesbian or Gay couple does with their lives - NONE of your business, zilch! Get over it already.... really.


Let me remind you of the most important thing Christ said - for GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten SON that W*H*O*S*O*E*V*E*R believes, shall NOT perish but have everlasting life! Your mortal words then, Mr UTFord, mean NOTHING to me....


oh, and enjoy your pizza!

[Divine Discontent]

108. 1Corinthians13 So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

You cannot stop Love!


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable (last item on page)

[roughsatori]

110. Soon your kind won't be permitted in the USA.

Adios amigo. God is tired of you.

[DevonRex]

112. Why did you delete your disgusting post, utford? Hmmmm????

[Ms. Toad]

114. Darn, I missed the fun.

Is this a new trick? Post something nasty, watch the fun, then delete before you get tombstoned?

[DevonRex]

116. Looks like it. I have a feeling they can figure out what it wrote, tho.

[DevonRex]

120. Here it is:

"I'm amazed at the immoral turn this country is taking - especially in the heartland of Iowa. I expect this type of immoral action from California or New York, but not from a state in the midwest. May God have mercy on us."

I still had it open in a separate window so I could still see it. Forgot to copy the subject line, though.

[Zuiderelle]

122. Wait a minute? Seriously? And that troll is not banned yet?

Wow.

[DevonRex]

124. Seriously. I'm sure it will be soon. :)

[bear425]

145. The subject line was something like:

Continue down the road to destruction.

What an asshat

[DevonRex]

162. I think that's exactly right.

Yep. Huge asshat. :mad:

[Zuiderelle]

123. Nice delete, after calling us immoral. God may have mercy on you, but only in spite of your hate.

As someone else quoted your post before you deleted it:

"I'm amazed at the immoral turn this country is taking - especially in the heartland of Iowa. I expect this type of immoral action from California or New York, but not from a state in the midwest. May God have mercy on us."

Might want to take a look at the rules on this site before you start posting hateful, bigoted garbage.

[Divine Discontent]

158. but his type don't believe in following rules, see they're better than us, and can break rules, and

the funniest thing of all - he removed his comment we responded to, but he can't remove it before God's eyes - and if he wants to be a better person then he needs to seek forgiveness. It's unlikely, but hey, ya never know.


ANOTHER BIG SHOUTOUT TO THE JUDGES IN IOWA FOR UNANIMOUSLY AGREEING IT'S AGAINST CITIZEN'S RIGHTS TO BAR TWO PEOPLE FROM MARRYING!!!

[Zhade]

181. FUCK OFF, BIGOT. GET THE FUCK OFF MY DU.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.

[DainBramaged]

95. As Fundie heads explode in unison Nationwide

the country comes one step closer to granting EVERYONE equal rights under the law.

A good day.

[xchrom]

100. +61! nt

[roughsatori]

105. K&R

[Duncan Grant]

107. What a great day! Thank you, Iowa -- K&R!

:woohoo: :party: :woohoo:

[Andy Canuck]

111. Are they crazy!!!! Don't they know what it has done to marriage in Canada?

There are more people married now than before. It is fortifying the institution of marriage!

[nichomachus]

119. How about the devastation in Massachusetts

Still has the lowest divorce rate in the country, while the homophobic bible states still have the highest. Damn those gays and their marriage.

[MellowDem]

115. Maybe some people's irrational hate

for "flyover country" will subside a bit here. See, this is what happens when we approach areas of the country that we used to ignore. Apparantly Iowa is more liberal than the whole West Coast! Go Iowa! The rest of the Midwest won't be far beind you! :D

[defendandprotect]

118. Unanimous CHEERS for IOWA -- leading the way for California . .. ????

[t0dd]

121. Is there any way to thank the Iowa SC Justices?

This was definitely a courageous move on their part. Is there any way to show gratitude to them? That no matter what the backlash is, we are very thankful for their decision?

[Naythan]

126. oh,

what a happy friday. i have to go lobby my minnesota legislators now.

[uppityperson]

127. k&r excellent

[kestrel91316]

129. IA is amazingly progressive for a "flyover" state.

:hide:

Disclaimer: My niece lives there, and I may wind up retiring there, so I actually like IA, lol.

[Vidar]

132. Kudoes to Iowa & their Supreme Court.

[RetroLounge]

134. Way to go Iowa!

:woohoo:

RL

[LeftHander]

140. It is too soon...we will lose elections on this issue....

SAR-FUCKING-CASM

[bitchkitty]

141. I heart Iowa!

Way to go, Iowans! (did I say that right?)

[Initech]

143. Go Iowa!!!!!

:woohoo:

[RoadRage]

144. Um.. well..

I guess that's pretty AWESOME.

I'm next door in NE.. happy with my neighbor state today!

[Jefferson23]

146. CONGRATULATIONS and WAY TO GO!!!!!!!

[Doodler71]

147. It is a good day!

WTG Denny Johnson, lead counsel. He did an excellent job.

[Starry Messenger]

148. Way to go Iowa!!

I'm feeling more hope about seeing Prop 8 repealed.

[Zenlitened]

149. Sweeeeeet!!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

And don't you just LOVE the UNANIMOUS decision?!!!

"We are firmly convinced the exclusion of gay and lesbian people from the institution of civil marriage does not substantially further any important governmental objective," the Supreme Court wrote.

Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification."

To issue any other decision, the justices said, "would be an abdication of our constitutional duty."

Link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/04/03/iowa_supreme_court_to_release_gay_marriage_ruling/

[Downtown Hound]

150. Dude, if California is beaten out by Iowa I'm really going to be pissed

We're supposed to be progressive leaders here, and we're getting beaten by Iowa. No offense to Iowans, but DAMN! This is not good.

Anyways, kudos to the Iowa Supreme Court and to all Iowans.

[marmar]

151. Wow. Enchante!

What you hear is the sound of fundie heads going :nuke:

[Rockholm]

152. AWESOME!!!!!!

[burning rain]

153. Splendid!

Particularly satisfying to see a unanimous verdict, and that this movement has progressed into a swing state, albeit Democratic-leaning. I hope to live to see gay marriage in Utah and Mississippi!

[Kajsa]

154. Let's hope our CA State Supreme Court Justices

are paying close attention to this!

They still need to reach a decision.
Hopefully this will help turn it towards
full marriage equality again, here.


:thumbsup:

[Dramarama]

163. We're falling back lol Keep up with the times CA

[Kajsa]

199. I know!

It's pitiful!

come back to the 21st Century,
California!

:) :hi:

[jamesatemple]

167. Who'd a thunk it? "Is this Heaven? "Nope. It's Iowa".

The times are a bit tough; money is gettin' more scarce around my household; and, my old pickup has over 160,000 miles on it. But, the old truck is still pretty sound. Sound enough that I believe it would make it from East Texas to Iowa and back. I'd kinda like to take a back roads trip up to that fine country; find a pleasant bed-and-breakfast; and, drop in to some small town cafes for a cup of coffee and visit with the local folks.

Fact is, I'd rather spend what little vacation money I have in a State where the legislators exercise uncommon good sense and decency toward the citizenry. Besides, there might just be a baseball game goin' on somewhere in that fair land on a beautiful summer night ~ a place where a fellow could munch on a hot dog and do a bit of reflectin' on earlier times. What a pleasant thought!

I'm mighty proud of Iowa and Iowans. The progressive stance of the State appeals to me. I hope to make my first visit this summer.

[Hardrada]

177. "So what the heck you're welcome. Glad to have you with us

Even though we'll never ever mention it again..."

LOL! from The Music Man by good old Iowan Meredith Willson.

[Chipper Chat]

184. Ye Gods!

Mayor Shinn's daughter can now legally have a fling with Amaryllis.

[Hardrada]

190. Oh boy, now ya really gotta know the territory!!

[Blue Gardener]

196. If you come to Iowa and like baseball

You must visit the Field of Dreams where the movie was filmed. Just so you know, northwest Iowa is VERY conservative, and I doubt this decision is going over well. Might want to avoid that part of the state. They are the home of our very own nutjob congressman Steve King.

[Kajsa]

198. It appeals to me, also.

And I bet you'll find prices are a lot more reasonable
in Iowa, than here in CA.

I hope you have a good vacation there, Jamesatemple!

:hi:

[AtheistCrusader]

157. Very awesome.

Iowa of all places... And here I live in one of the bluest states in the land, and we don't have this. Encouraging and embarrassing at the same time.

[Hardrada]

191. How about them Hawks!!

[billionbucks]

159. GO IOWA GO!

"SO GOES IOWA, SO GOES THE NATION"

[Dramarama]

160. Hell yes

[and-justice-for-all]

161. Smashing good news! nt

[Eagle_Eye]

164. We Democrats now have one more in the win column. n/t

[Piewhacket]

168. Outsatnding Iowa! California is proud of you. (It shoulda been us).

[WillyT]

175. Big K & R !!!

:kick:

[fishwax]

176. outstanding!

:bounce:

[ArbustoBuster]

186. Iowa rocks.

:woohoo:

And the video by the Iowa state senator that Debi linked to, farther up the page, was cool. Very few things will get me to listen to a state politician talk for five minutes, but the sense of happiness in him kept me watching. :)

[MNBrewer]

187. Gay Marriage! Right here in River City!

That starts with "G"
and that rhymes with "C"
and that stands for "COOL"!

[wellstone dem]

188. I hereby pledge to never again tell an "Iowa joke" though

I was shocked to read in this thread that Iowan's tell Minnesotan jokes...how can that be?

Way to go Iowa, proud to be your neighbor.

[Sunnyshine]

189. Love it!

=

[Hardrada]

192. Don't tell Victoria Jackson about this?

She said some really vile things over time.

[Toucano]

193. “Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain.”

Nice to know a motto means more than mere words.

Congratulations Iowans!

[babydollhead]

201. Kick!