FBI deny Taliban are responsible for New York gun rampage which left 14 dead

[Turborama]

Source: Daily Mail

The FBI have ruled out Pakistani Taliban militant leader Baituallah Mehsud's claim that he was responsible for an attack on a U.S. immigration centre which left 14 people dead.

More than 40 people were taken hostage at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, New York state yesterday by a man with a high-powered rifle who later committed suicide.

Mehsud told Reuters that his group was responsible, saying: 'I accept responsibility. They were my men. I gave them orders in reaction to U.S. drone attacks.'

However FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said: 'Based on the evidence, we can firmly discount that claim.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1167147/FBI-deny-Taliban-responsible-New-York-gun-rampage-left-14-dead.html

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I know it's the Mail but couldn't find it being reported anywhere else and thought it was worth sharing...

(On edit) Al Jazeera English are now reporting this story: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/04/20094414274878141.html

[ShortnFiery]

1. Perhaps soon "the authorities" will claim that the *Evil Taliban* is EVERYWHERE.

:crazy: They're under your bed ... they're in your nutty buddies! Be afraid! :P

[sufrommich]

5. Did you read the article? "the authorities" just said the

Taliban is full of shit and had nothing to do with the shooting.

[RetroLounge]

6. Try reading the words

You look less dumb that way.

RL

[ShortnFiery]

20. I did read the words but I'm also paying close attention to the other hype about the evil Taliban.

If you don't believe that "the media" is trying to provide us a meme, then you're not paying attention.

No, the political ruling class is not stupid either, they won't accuse the Taliban of crimes that are easily refutable.

Those of you who attack me need to "look within" as to WHY?

You want to believe the news that is spoon fed to you.

You DO NOT want to think for YOURSELVES and consider other scenarios.

And Heaven Forbid that you comment on "possibilities" because you will be shouted down.

No, the ones who are truly "pathetic" IMO, are all the hyped-up and self-righteous Germans.

If you don't attend to anything else that I'm trying to convey, just ONCE ask yourself, "Why am I so upset over another person's mere opinion?" :shrug:

[RetroLounge]

22. Didn't say you were wrong. I agree with your premise.

It just does not have to do with this OP.

Start your own thread, and I'll agree with you there.

The Media is complicit, yes.

:hi:

RL

[ShortnFiery]

26. I'm sorry because I understand how one could surmise that I did not read it, but I did.

I think of "the authorities" or "officials" as not only those within law enforcement but HOW the message is being conveyed by the M$M.

To have the FBI announce that the Taliban did NOT have a hand in this tragedy, it is feeding into the notion that our government will not always tell us the truth.

There are unholy alliances between the M$M and elements of the Pentagon that work to "manufacture outrage."

Although the FBI says, "No" many elements of the right wing media are saying "possibly" or "Yes, they're covering up."

However, I should have stated my opinion MORE CLEARLY.

That's understood. Thanks. :hi:

[EFerrari]

28. Between the Taliban and the FBI, it's a toss up who to believe, imho.

lol

[ShortnFiery]

29. Nope, there are many "agencies" and "organizations" within our nation = they do not all

communicate with each other, i.e., compartmented.

I'm not trying to be obtuse but it takes gleaning from a variety of sources to get at "the truth."

[EFerrari]

31. I don't know if you remember this but last summer when FBI was

desperate to sell the Bruce Ivins story, they were spamming all the outlets with their talking points. I wrote a little article just on their use of the word "compelling" which showed up in all the usual places but also in out there places like Nature magazine and New Science magazine. It was quite amazing.

It's nice to know that most of the DoJ leadership aren't corrupt bastards any more, even if Mueller himself will be there for another two years.

[ShortnFiery]

32. Thank you, those of us looking in from the outside do not ever know for sure.

I'll look into the "Bruce Ivins Story" of what you referenced above.

Thanks again. :hi:

[kiva]

8. Maybe a closer read of the OP would help. n/t

[TwilightZone]

10. 'Based on the evidence, we can firmly discount that claim.'

Might want to read the OP.

[Codeine]

11. Calm down.

The authorities just said exactly the opposite.

:eyes:

[cali]

12. pathetic.

you're embarassing yourself, shorty.

[pretzel4gore]

16. thank god!...it's someone else this time ethel!

the nazipoohs always try blame the ______? (fill blank) but not this time, eh? Wonder why. Maybe because the Taliban is soon to be our palsy walsys in Fukkittastan...but... Remember Flight 587? A months after 911 (Nov10/01?) a jet full of Dominican Republic citizens blew up in NY after wing 'tail fell off' and despite police/firemen reports they saw blasts rip the jet open the NOOSE MEDIA immediarely said 'hey, twas just lil ole accident, loose screws and poor woikmanship' to blame. NO TERRS! Thank Jesus H CHRIST! The airline industry REAL REALLY DO NOT NEED another disaster caused by....bad breath or eskimos or TALIBAN or Allciadoes or the heeby jeebies from hell... no way hoe say. But the NOOSE MEDIA needed NOOSE to keep people's eyes off the NORC results published THAT VERY MORNING!
Hot DAMN you say!
That very morning flight 587 crashed killing almost 300 people the NORC results which proved Gore WON the 2k election were published finally (publication originally planned for sept 15th, lol)....but the distraction still must not destroy airline industry! ok...REALLY!
NO WAY!
(the problem is, who do YOU believe? The pig and his greedy pals in the noose media? your own eyes? or ...someone named 'gore'?

[cali]

17. have another pretzel and don't choke on it.

and try and wipe all the froth off your mouth.

Your word salad is hardly persuasive. to put it mildly.

[Turborama]

23. Word salad!

:rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

25. I understand. There's two types of "authorities" - the first are the folks like the FBI which

are "the official authorities" and the second is the Psychological Operations (PsyOps) conducted by the M$M.

They work hand in glove and often times, the thoughtful FBI agents have no IDEA what other parts of our government are doing with regard to feeding the public disinformation and propaganda though the M$M.

Hey, I understand because being a person who's quite excitable, sometimes I get beside myself with conflicting emotions of grief and anger.

You're cool by me because at least you took the time to take on "Ethel." :thumbsup:

:spray:

[bottomtheweaver]

33. The odd thing is that the denial adds credibility to the claim.

And it's expressed in such a way that unless you read the article, and many won't, you might not realize that it IS a denial.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. Imagine how the previous administration would be "publicizing (read, using)" this.

[Gman]

3. Pretty lame try by Mehsud

[aquart]

19. Think his own people will laugh at him?

Because that is one quick response to that drone attack. And in Binghampton? Now that's serious planning. LOL!

[NavyDavy]

4. when is faux news going to pick this up to prove mccant/painlin

could of protected us against this "terrorist" attack.....

[old guy]

15. Exactly.

Rush,Sean,Glenn, can now tell us Cheney was right! We're less safe! Facts be damned!

[Stephanie]

18. They're already on it.

From alicublog:

Saturday, April 04, 2009
EVERYBODY HATES AMERICA. Reuters reports that some Taliban guy claims responsibility for the Binghamton massacre. Even if you hadn't heard that before, readers, I bet you pretty much immediately know what to think about it.

RedState, however, thinks you're too dumb to figure it out, and likely to fall under the sway of the traitorous Reuters mind-shapers.

You see by telling us the lie of Baitubooolah Meshaweazel Muhammad something-or-another who is claiming he was responsible for the rampage Reuters can also promulgate anger toward our Predator drone program that has been so successful in killing these Taliban and al Qaeda scum-bags.

Reuters knows full well the story is bunk. But if it helps turn more people against the U.S. efforts to stop Islamofascist terror, well, that is a tale worth telling.

The problem is even worse that RedState portrays it: Fox News has also picked up the story, meaning that Rupert Murdoch has come to hate America, too. Given the enormous influence of an MSM-Fox treason alliance, the U.S. should be thoroughly demoralized in a couple of months. Maybe RedState can tell us what step two of the Big Takeover is supposed to be, because I don't know how news organizations can expect to profit from the death of America.

Oh Jesus, I found myself taking them seriously for a couple of seconds there. I need a vacation.

[baldguy]

7. They're trying to capitalize on the seeds of fear sewn by the Bush regime.

[TwilightZone]

9. Self-delete

Wrong place.

[earcandle]

13. Glad the FBI are not fear mongering.

[annabanana]

14. AND..The Taliban definitely DID NOT

take that parking spot in front of my house that I like.

[Posteritatis]

21. Of course, because of that people are going to start assuming they were.. (nt)

[truthisfreedom]

24. Gun rampages are too common in the US to inspire terror.

We wouldn't buy it even if it was true.

[libodem]

27. This is a horrible scenario

and it bothers me immensely. I'm freaking out that he barricaded the back door. Why this carnage? To start putting this together in the same sentence with the Teliban feels like adding insult to the injury. I have nothing to go on but my feelings so anything I say has no "link". The 'shooter', had to be suicidal and felt like taking a few people with him. After all if his life

is worth nothing, neither is anyone else's life. He is acting out how cheap 'life' has become. Especially 'foreign' life. Especially 'foreign immigrant' life, brown or Asian life. God, only knows what was going through this man's head. he may have even convinced himself that he was doing these 14 people a favor by cutting them off at the gait before they entered a land of plenty that would betray them, with promise and then take it away and leave them in despair.

I'm just guessing. I have a way of putting myself in someone's shoes to try and understand. And imagining being barricaded in with a shooter and no escape is someplace I don't want to go. Nor is into the mind of someone desperate enough to go 'postal'. Oddly, I have had some of the same questions as I did, after the 9/11 attacks and not because I think anyone in Afghanistan had an thing to do with it. But,I wonder 'why'? The question it was unpatriotic to ask after 9/11. We weren't allowed to ask why because it then justified the attack and we were 'with' the terrorists. All we needed was a reason for war.

I hope we aren't going back to Viet Nam. I hope we aren't going to secretly render all Asians to Black Sites and torture them for reason why this 'shooter' killed these innocent immigrants. I hope we are allowed to ask why to try and prevent future similar random acts of violence. I Faux news doesn't used these images like they did the twin towers for a year after with a Terra-alert color coded index. Of course this is just hyperbole. There are many differences in the scenarios.

I know this is getting long and everyone has stopped reading by now. But a few more things are bothering me. Last night as I listed to Coast to Coast, a caller, called in and stated, that he felt bad for the people who were killed *but* after all we are short on jobs in this country and we don't have room for anymore people if they are 'legal'...as George Norry was trying to point out. This leads me to Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck (I won't even mock his name here because this is serious)being part of why the Anti-defamation League, has a job. The commentators vilify people whom are not white citizens week after week and dumb down our outrage about treating other races as subhumans.

All I can say is you got your wish Rush and Glenn you have succeeded in you job of incendiary talk to whip people up against foreigners. You must be dancing with glee that new people didn't make it into the labor force of this country.
Yes! I blame you. And you are probably happy that Drone missed and killed civilians in Pakistan, too. After all they are brown, foreign and life is cheap.

[Hannah Bell]

37. "After all if his life is worth nothing, neither is anyone else's life."

I agree.

[Summermoondancer]

30. What happened

is the Taliban weren´t responsible...the FBI got it right when they said this.
He was crazy, and he was upset about his accent or something loony along those lines and he attacked the very people who could sympathize with him.
The facts are he was from Vietnam. He came from Vietnam when he was 13. He clearly had mental issues. He was a US citizen and attacked legal immigrants who wanted to become citizens. Such a sad situation.

[chrisa]

34. Wow. That's just dumb.

Considering the shooter already confessed why he did it.

[Dappleganger]

35. You can thank the MSM for that steaming little nugget of news...

the NY authorities and FBI came out very quickly in denial of this and publicly denounced what the news media was reporting.

[ShortnFiery]

36. Yes, I do thank Heavens that we have Obama and not McCain in charge of our Executive Branch.

Thanks for da update. ;)