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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:30 PM
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Medical Officers Violated Ethics While Overseeing Interrogations, Red Cross Says
Source: Washington Post

Medical officers who oversaw interrogations of terrorism suspects in CIA secret prisons committed gross violations of medical ethics and in some cases essentially participated in torture, according a confidential report by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Health personnel offered supervision and even assistance as suspected al-Qaeda captives were deprived of food, exposed to temperature extremes and subjected to waterboarding, the relief agency found in a 2007 report, a copy of which was posted on a magazine Web site tonight. The report quoted one medical official as telling a detainee: "I look after your body only because we need you for information."

The new details about alleged CIA interrogation practices were contained in a 43-page volume written by ICRC officials who were given unprecedented access to the CIA's "high-value detainees" in late 2006. While excerpts of the report were leaked previously, the entire document was made public for the first time tonight by author Mark Danner, a journalism professor, on the Web site of the New York Review of Books.

The confidential report sheds additional light on the CIA's handling of the detainees, who were detained in secret overseas prisons for up to four years and subjected to what the agency describes as "enhanced interrogation techniques." In addition to widely reported methods such as waterboarding, the report alleges that several of the detainees were forced to stand for days in painful positions with their arms shackled overhead. One detainee reported being shackled in this manner for "two to three months, seven days of prolonged stress standing followed by two days of being able to sit or lie down."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/06/AR2009040603654.html?hpid=topnews
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:31 PM
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1. Better late than never, WaHo. n/t
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:34 PM
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2. Dr. Mengele's Acolytes n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:37 PM
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3. Duhhh ya THINK??!
That's what I truly don't understand; how any medical doctor could supervise torture.

Anyways, kick em out of the AMA.


Then arrest & try them.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:42 AM
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8. Beat me to it. Ditto!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:46 AM
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9. AMA and the psychiatrist's professional organization pulled out early.
Only the psychologists, to their shame, did not. Their leadership was in the Pentagon's pocket. Two of them, though, put up a big fight at their convention year before last. They didn't win at the time, but the next time, one of them was elected president of the organization and the APA pulled out, too.

What seems really sick to me is that FBI pulled out of this program BEFORE any of these professionals did. The FBI! :puke:
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:53 PM
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4. Red Cross --
another formerly effective, helpful agency i.d.'d by pirates as a cash cow/looting opportunity, etc. Take-over by conservatives took place some years ago, at any rate before Katrina. If even the Red Cross is concerned, the reality's probably really bad.
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:43 PM
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5. The Geneva-based International Committee for the Red Cross is the organization referenced
in the OP, not the American Red Cross.
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 11:05 PM
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6. NYT has a piece on this too
Here's a link to the NYT piece on this subject.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/world/07detain.html?_r=1&hp
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:32 AM
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10. more accurate headline too: Report Outlines Medical Workers’ Role in Torture
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 01:40 AM by Snazzy
April 7, 2009
Report Outlines Medical Workers’ Role in Torture
By SCOTT SHANE

WASHINGTON — Medical personnel were deeply involved in the abusive interrogation of terrorist suspects held overseas by the Central Intelligence Agency, including torture, and their participation was a “gross breach of medical ethics,” a long-secret report by the International Committee of the Red Cross concluded.

Based on statements by 14 prisoners who belonged to Al Qaeda and were moved to Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, in late 2006, Red Cross investigators concluded that medical professionals working for the C.I.A. monitored prisoners undergoing waterboarding, apparently to make sure they did not drown. Medical workers were also present when guards confined prisoners in small boxes, shackled their arms to the ceiling, kept them in frigid cells and slammed them repeatedly into walls, the report said.

Facilitating such practices, which the Red Cross described as torture, was a violation of medical ethics even if the medical workers’ intentions had been to prevent death or permanent injury, the report said. But it found that the medical professionals’ role was primarily to support the interrogators, not to protect the prisoners, and that the professionals had “condoned and participated in ill treatment.”

At times, according to the detainees’ accounts, medical workers “gave instructions to interrogators to continue, to adjust or to stop particular methods.”

....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/world/07detain.html?_r=2&ref=global-home&pagewanted=print


Wonder if we have some Mengele jr. in charge of the scumbags (yeah yeah Godwin, fuck it--we torture people) and when that will come out.

Also caught this yesterday, reminiscent of Abu Ghraib, but this time with the CIA mugging for the camera with tortured prisoners:

April 04, 2009

Destroyed CIA videotapes. Per Marcy's point here about this: that Foggo may be in a mood to talk, if he knows anything.

I'm told that there were three people in the room, e.g. two witnesses, to Goss allegedly authorizing a call be made to the station involved (Thailand) to order them to destroy the interrogation tapes: both then director of the national clandestine service Jose Rodriguez as well as his then deputy. Rodriguez' then deputy was described as "a senior ranking clandestine service official close to Goss" whose name is not well known, who has since retired from the Agency and gone to work for a large private sector company.

The contact says referring to the other person allegedly in the room when the decision on the tapes was made, Rodriguez' deputy: "I know for a fact that he was in the office when Goss said 'Get rid of the videotapes' and he said, 'Jose, it is up to you to do it.' He directed this guy , 'You call the station and tell them to do it.' ... My point is, Goss walked away from that" point "on - and they ... carried out what told to do."

According to the contact, Goss, after hearing Rodriguez' and his deputy's argument for why the tapes would be problematic if they got out, ordered Rodriguez' deputy to make the call to the station in Thailand to get rid of the tapes, and directed Jose to inform the committees. "Goss told Jose to tell the committees and told the other guy station invoved and destroy the tapes."

Apparently there was a currently serving senior CIA officer on one or more of the tapes, whose name I have redacted because he is still serving, who was mugging on the camera. "What I heard is that deliberately got on the TV camera. He's smiling, making gestures to one of the guys behind him..."

Source says "Jose , I know who to protect: that - his ugly face on the video - smiling on the video of waterboarding."

....

http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/009078.html

She links in to:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/02/what-does-dusty-foggo-know-about-the-torture-tapes/

which is also worth a read (Foggo probably going to turn on Goss shortly it sounds like)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 11:57 PM
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7. "...Above all, do no harm . . . "
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:36 AM
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11. full report and article by guy who obtained it:
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 09:37 AM by Snazzy
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:15 AM
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12. "long-secret report by the International Committee of the Red Cross"
Why? Why "long-secret"?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:27 AM
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17. yeah
I understand to some degree the weird hoops Red Cross must jump through to get access. But this report has been sitting around where in our Gov for 2 years?

And there's a lot of other reports which are nowhere near sunshine.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:17 AM
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13. They got the info in 2006 and it is coming out only now???
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:37 PM
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15. Serving interrogators today and insurance companies tomorrow--all for some coin??
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:24 PM
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16. 'Medics joined CIA torture sessions'(ICRC spokesman Bernard Barrett)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25307061-12377,00.html

(snip)

ICRC spokesman Bernard Barrett confirmed the authenticity of the leaked report, which had been intended only for high-ranking US government officials.

A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the report.

The 40-page document is based on ICRC interviews with 14 "high-value" detainees sent to the US base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in September 2006, following spells at secret CIA detention centres abroad.

In the interviews, detainees told the ICRC that medical workers took part in torture and fine-tuned the harshness of treatment.
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