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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:09 PM
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Next bailout: Life insurance gets lifeline from taxpayers
Edited on Wed Apr-08-09 09:14 PM by Bozita
Source: McClatchy

Next bailout: Life insurance gets lifeline from taxpayers
BY KEVIN G. HALL • MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS • APRIL 8, 2009

Updated at 9:02 p.m.


WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department confirmed today that life insurers are qualified to join banks and carmakers on the list of industries getting taxpayer bailouts.

In a statement, the agency said certain life insurers are eligible to receive an unspecified amount of the money that remains from October’s $700-billion Wall Street rescue program. The transfer of the money is expected soon.

“There are a number of life insurers who met the requirements for the Capital Purchase Program because of their thrift or bank holding company status. These companies applied within the appropriate deadline,” Andrew Williams, a Treasury spokesman, said in a statement. “These are among the hundreds of financial institutions in the pipeline that will be reviewed and funded as appropriate on a rolling basis.”

The $218-billion program was created as part of October’s bailout and is designed to help bolster the balance sheets of financial institutions. In exchange for receiving capital, participating companies provide senior preferred shares to the Treasury Department, paying a dividend of 5% annually for five years and 9% if the money hasn’t been repaid after that.

Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20090408/NEWS15/90408087



So, ... life insurance companies are banks too.

Amazing.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:18 PM
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1. Andrew Tobias wrote a book a couple of decades ago
called "The Invisible Bankers" about the insurance industry. They are indeed "bankers", and all the cash value of the whole-life policies in force are just as much "savings" to the people who hold them as are certificates of deposit down at the corner bank.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:19 PM
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2. I don't think we should be bailing out companies that
had bad business plans. The Life Insurance companies, the other companies like All State who routinely try to deny paying customers what's owed to them.

The whole insurance industry stinks.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:35 AM
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15. Unlike financial institutions life insurance is heavily regulated.
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 08:35 AM by Marrah_G
I don't know of any that would be in need of bailouts.

Is the article saying that they could...or that they are?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:21 PM
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3. I read it was about all the "Annuities" they were selling since 2007 that got them
into trouble. They were doing some "CDS's" and stuff and now don't have the cash to pay the annuities for folks into the long term. It's probably lots of life insurance and diasbility policies, too. Having AIG handle some stuff for them..off the book.

Anyway, lots of folks will be out policies they depend on if they can't be paid back. One more deregulation nail in the coffin.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:23 PM
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4. does that mean that since they are now funded by the taxpayers that
I no longer need to pay my premiums (since that would be double payments)?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:24 PM
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5. OH HELL NO
Edited on Wed Apr-08-09 09:25 PM by ixion
Bailing out the idiots who caused the mess is bad enough. Insurance companies also contributed to the collapse in their own underhanded and unethical way.

No more bailouts...ever!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:36 PM
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6. I don't agree with and do not think Life Insurance Companies need a bail out.
This is getting to the point of ridiculous. I would like a bail out too, I could us the money to.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:43 PM
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7. Fucking ridiculous
Blows me out of the fucking water. Can I get a fucking bailout on my 401K that I lost over TWO THIRDS of?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:08 PM
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8. Bailout the VICTIMS, not the PERPETRATORS!
What about the people who are losing their homes because they were snookered into the "creative financing"?

What about the people who have lost 50 percent of the value of their 401ks?

What about the people who have lost their pensions, due to bad investments that were born from these banks?

What about the people who have lost their jobs--because these stupid banks created toxic assets and sold them to every financial institution?

What about We the frickin People?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:48 PM
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11. I agree, but, the easy explanation of all these questions is:
because these (not stupid, but 'legally' criminal minded) banks pay BIG cash to lobbyists AND pols to do THEIR greedy bidding

the people pay them - well - never big enough (in their estimation) for pols to ever bother doing anything really worthwhile
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:29 PM
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9. No way....
Ridiculous!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:37 PM
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10. hell no n/t
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:43 AM
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12. Well, are the Health Insurers NEXT in the bailout line?
Just curious if those pimps are in the same fix as their buddies in the "life insurance" scam?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:46 AM
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18. They are going to get a different kind of "bailout".
Mandatory For Profit Health Insurance, with taxpayers providing a "subsidy" for those who can't afford it = $BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars funneled into the already bloated pockets of some of the richest CEOs in the World.
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sythe200 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:27 AM
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13. Each and every bailout just makes things worse and worse.
Every time they bail a new company out they put the people further in debt and continue to destroy the value of our currency through debt and inflation. When will the fools in Washington finally get a little sense and just back off from their unConstitutional bailouts?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:33 AM
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14. They don't need bailouts- even AIG's life insurance subsidiary is doing just fine.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:47 AM
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16. Give me a break
Life insurance companies charge outrageous fees for their products. If they're going to take money they should be expected to stop writing new policies until it's paid back.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:32 AM
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17. Enough already, Insurances companies, who is next Lawyers?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:35 AM
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19. Absolutely absurd. nt
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