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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:43 PM
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Rove Calls Biden 'Liar' After VP Boasts of Scolding Bush
Source: FOX News

Rove Calls Biden 'Liar' After VP Boasts of Scolding Bush
Aides to former President George W. Bush are challenging the veracity of Vice President Joe Biden's claim this week of having privately castigated Bush.

By Bill Sammon

FOXNews.com


Republican strategist Karl Rove called Vice President Biden a "liar" on Thursday, dramatically escalating a feud between Biden and aides to former President George W. Bush over Biden's claims to have rebuked Bush in private meetings.

"I hate to say this, but he's a serial exaggerator," Rove told FOX News. "If I was being unkind I would say liar. But it is a habit he ought to drop."

Rove added: "You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the Vice President of the United States."

Biden's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment, although Biden spokesman Jay Carney told Fox on Wednesday: "The vice president stands by his remarks."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/09/rove-calls-biden-liar-bush-aides-challenge-vps-boasts/
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:44 PM
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1. Rove calls someone else a 'serial exaggerator'
Although in Rove's defense

He's a compulsive liar
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:55 PM
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2. Take the Bastards to court for Authorizing Torture
That will shut the fuckwads up once and for all
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:42 AM
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38. And charge them with LYING too!
This is the propaganda organ at its finest Wurlitzer fidelity :rofl:

Seriously, this is Fox controlling the dialogue, avoiding Bush torture, et.al.


1. Bush kidnaps and tortures innocent foreign citizens
2. Bush lies, "We do not torture."

3. Biden says, "You are a lying torturer."

4. Rush says, "I smell a possible lie in what Biden said."
5. Fox News executives run with the story about Rush starting a playground verbal dispute.
6. Foreign citizens watch Fox and think, "..... we need to prosecute them all for torture, Bush and Fox."
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:57 PM
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3. Can we PLEASE THROW THIS SH*TBAG IN JAIL...Enough already!
Why, oh why, is Rove allowed to roam free? If there were justice in America, he would be someone's "bitch" in jail.

J
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:05 PM
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4. Oh, that's rich
slimy little oinker.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:09 PM
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5. (focusing really hard on Rove swallowing his tongue...focus, focus...)

He's stirring the pot hoping to get a reaction - he probably just needs to change his underwear to feel better.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:10 PM
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6. Can ANYone tell me why, why he's not been taken into custody?
Is it just our spineless, complicit group of hacks we call Congress?
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:51 PM
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13. If he keeps this up he just might be.
Bring it on, turdblossom!
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 06:56 AM
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23. Rove has not been taken into custody because our DOJ has been corrupted
Holder is using the Stevens case to clean house. The Republicans can't squawk because Stevens is one of their own. Holder is firing a lot of folks right now.

If Holder tries to do anything right now, it will blow up in his face. Holder needs to get a high profile republican criminal case mishandled so that he can get rid of the current head of criminal investigations (a Bush plant).
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:05 AM
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25. Why doesn't he just fire the current head of investigation
& put in a real go-getter?
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:40 AM
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37. too politically charged and would backfire
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 09:41 AM by cap
my guess is that Holder is assigning the current head of criminal investigation a poison pill. If he eats it, he's toast. Holder will tee things up so that the guy can not afford to not eat the pill.

It's like trying to get someone to commit hari-kari.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:09 PM
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40. that makes so much sense
I was just speaking with a fellow Dem (not a DU-er) and he remarked that it will be a year or more before we can rid ourselves of all the bush plants.

They had eight long, miserable years when they worked relentlessly to fill these positions with political hacks. It is unrealistic to think we can get these people out overnight.


Cher
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:59 AM
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44. Not really.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:57 AM
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43. Holder does not need a reason to clean house. Every President does that when he
takes office following an administration by the opposite political party. Reagan did it after a Democratic President, Clinton did it after a Republican President and Dummya did it after a Democratic President. Obama can do it whenever he wants. They are political appointments. Even in the Civil Service slots, you can fire folks, just not as easily or quickly.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:13 PM
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7. to quote the WWW...
'these things must be done DELICATELY, or you hurt the spell... all in good time, my dear, all in good time'
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:17 PM
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8. Maybe now the gloves will come off
and Obama/Biden will stop protecting Rove, et al.

They need to investigate the bums and hold them responsible for their crimes - violations of the constitution, federal law, international law, abuses of office. Hell, there is a federal statute which makes anyone that orders torture or is involved in torture a crime.

It is about time they prosecute Rove, the compulsive liar, and his bosses.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:44 PM
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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:55 PM
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14. Exactly.
If he manages to get Joe mad it isn't going to be pretty.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:28 AM
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15. If anything, this makes it more difficult...
If Rove is to be put behind bars it needs to be fully apparent that it's because he's a thieving, murderous crook, and not because he's feuding with those who currently hold office.
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ProHeloPilot Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:34 AM
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16. I don't see the Administration moving towards indictments
And sadly, none at all.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:47 AM
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17. He is a thieving, murderous crook and that is apparent to any one
that has been paying attention - the "feud" should be an awakening to the "good guys". It should be their "Maw Mobley" moment - the rattlesnake has thawed a bit and is deadly - time to cut the head off.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:19 AM
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31. That's What I Was Thinking/Hoping
I'm sick of hope, I want action.
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:38 PM
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9. Projection, anyone?
nt
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Kalyan Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:49 PM
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11. look who's talking ...
if Rove had even an iota of dignity & morals - he would have surrendered to the FBI & confessed his crimes. that he hasn't got any dignity is a open secret - he should push his tail between his legs & retire peacefully, else remember that this admin will haul him to the docks ...
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:50 PM
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12. wow, Rove the cast aside tool calling out the sitting VP.
Keep it up Karl and we might actually see some prosections. :thumbsup:
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:03 AM
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18. while the pot kettle black part is amusing
I have to wonder why Biden felt that privately castigating Bush was the way to go, why not publicly? He wasn't a naughty school boy he was the "leader of the free world" and started a war based on 100% total and utter bullshit. Why say "naughty naughty" behind closed doors?
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:49 AM
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19.  like the last VP told the truth ? Rove should be prosecuted
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:56 AM
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20. LOL. That's hilarious. Karl Rove who made his start in politics
by faking break ins and buggings.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 04:36 AM
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21. That is a big fact that has slipped for the Amurikan public's collective
memory.

Now, he's fat, rich, and (to too damn many) 'respectable'. A journalist (gag) even.

Amazing. Just a sign of our times. Up is down. Bad is good. The rich get bailed out.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 05:56 AM
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22. Being called a liar by Rove.
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 05:58 AM by Turbineguy
Boy that's bound to upset Biden.:rofl:

If Biden doesn't call Rove a piece of shit it's only because he doesn't want to be Captain Obvious.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:01 AM
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24. If Eric Holden does not
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 07:01 AM by pjt7
go after the many Karl Rove crimes, this Country is finished.

It's that simple.

Put the real criminal away, Justice Department.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:49 AM
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26. I remember the day Biden said this! WHY DIDN'T ROVE COME FORWARD THEN?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:56 AM
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27. If it wasn't for right wing rags and think tanks, Bill Sammon................
..........would be working at McDonalds. This motherfucker has had more jobs since I have known of him than any 10 normal people. This guy deserves the "Goebbels award" for his propaganda reporting.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:56 AM
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28. LOL
Sure, I'm going to believe an evil bastard like Turd Blossom and not a stand-up guy like the Vice President. :eyes:
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:05 AM
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29. Why repeat this Faux News bullshit..
Would we really expect a confirmation that this was true from Faux News..
Repukes need only to make one statement on any issue and from that point it seems that its Democrats that repeat their message so a majority know about it...But then there are so many Repuke trolls on here now it might be a Democrat thats repeating Karl Rove's BS..
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:54 AM
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39. Rove "a backbencher in the U.S. House of Representatives," "backbencher(s)". NICE MOVE Karl!
I had to go read it, and check to see the title is verbatim. It is verbatim Fox "news" pulp.

Anyways, there is real news to repeat in the story.

Rove has to go testify to Congress, right,
and he just said what of the House members?

He called the Representatives "backbencher(s)". :rofl: NICE MOVE Karl! :rofl: That's worth repeating!! :rofl: "backbencher(s)" :rofl:

Karl, meet Mr. Conyers :rofl: :rofl:
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:06 AM
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30. project much?
Rove is a joke without his guy in office ....
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:24 AM
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32. The irony may be too rich for breakfastime...
Unbelievable. These idiots just do not know when to go away.
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:29 AM
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33. As much as I
hate shrub, rove and the whole rotten bunch. I wish we could move beyond them and they would just go away. Why do we have to keep hearing their shit. You lost now go away.

Oh, and fuck you CNN and Faux for enabling them.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:50 AM
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34. Rove and Friends belong in Jail
Just around the cove
She was told.

Look out, there’s the snarl!
Oh how I dread that he said
You.

Don’t talk to your TV,
You don’t know what
They see.

Light waves
E-chips
Fox News
Autumn.

Alberto Gonzales
Digitalized.

Hangman.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:58 AM
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35. Castigated Bush?
He should have been impeached but I would hardly call what Biden said as castigating Bush:

“I remember President Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office,” Biden told CNN on Tuesday, “‘Well, Joe,’ he said, ’I’m a leader.’ And I said: ‘Mr. President, turn and around look behind you. No one is following.’”

Now doesn't that sound exactly like Joe..always respectful yet assertive. Rove is a known liar and conspirator. Fake News as usual trying to stir up hatred for the new administration.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:58 AM
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36. THEN, how about a debate UNDER OATH carl-snarl?????
How about a nice discussion, no holds barred under oath, your guy and our guy...

I've got a big smile on my face.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:30 PM
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45. Hey Detroit!
good at Hangman are ya?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:36 PM
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41. Wrong veep, Turdblossom.
Rove added: "You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the Vice President of the United States."

Rove is obviously thinking of Cheney.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:18 PM
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42. Damned shame that Turdblossom didn't think of saying this seven or so years ago, isn't it?
But then, ex-president-Shit-fer-Brains wouldn't have let his high executioner badmouth the REAL Power-Behind-The-Throne would he?
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:14 PM
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46. Why doesn't this disgusting pig of a man just go away?
Just shut up Rove..Nobody cares what your flabby ass has to say about anything..
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 02:45 PM
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47. The irony! It hurts so damned much!!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 03:39 PM
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48. Me! Me! I want Rove to call me a liar too! nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:08 PM
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49. Blah blah blah..Rove is a fucking criminal and should have a..
gag order placed on him.
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 04:17 PM
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50. So Joe Biden really said that to Bush?
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