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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:15 PM
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Smokers may boost cancer chances by eating fruit
Source: AFP

THE HAGUE (AFP) – Smokers may increase their chances of contracting colon cancer by eating fruit and vegetables, according to a new Europe-wide scientific study said Wednesday.

A high intake of fruit and vegetables appeared to reduce the risk among non-smokers but seemed to have the reverse effect on smokers, findings by the Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) showed.

"People who eat 600 grammes or more vegetables and fruit a day appear to have a 20 to 25 percent lower chance of developing colon cancer than people who eat 220 grammes or less," said the statement.

"For smokers, the consumption of vegetables and fruit appears, on the contrary, to increase the chances of colon cancer. Protection against colon cancer through the consumption of vegetables and fruit therefore appears to depend on smoking habits."....

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090415/hl_afp/healthnetherlandseuropediseasecancer



Not sure what to file this under. Anti-fruit or anti-smoking.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:17 PM
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1. LOL.
:popcorn:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:20 PM
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2. hell, if you smoke and fall from a tall building and die..,smoking caused your death
IF you smoke..no matter the manner of death...it will always be because you smoke. :shrug:
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:24 PM
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6. You've got that right.. It ups the deaths for the rabid anitsmokers.
Pretty funny isn't it?
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:30 PM
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7. it may not be funny, but it does relieve the rest of the polluters from any blame
pesticides, gm foods, formaldihide, flouride...they all get a free pass, cause it is either a smoker or second hand smoke....seems NYC innocents are subject to second hand smoke.,.and all the pollutants otherwise could never cause a death..just smokers!!!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:20 PM
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3. What about a fruit juice colonic?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:23 PM
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:23 PM
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5. Similar to beta carotene supplements
I had read a study that smokers who took these supplements ran a higher risk of contracting lung cancer. Beta carotene is an anti-oxidant, and as an ex-smoker, I take these regulary.

But how many of these studies have been refuted a few years later?

I try to lead a healthy life now, I still take vitamin supplements. I'm not a big vegetable eater anyway.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:42 PM
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10. But the studies were based on fact that eating foods rich
in beta carotene did lower risk in smokers, it was the supplements that seemed to be an issue. (That is they seemed to raise risk in two studies, one showed no difference)

This current study puzzles me but then I haven't read article
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:32 PM
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8. Smoking is a major contributor to all kinds of ills.
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 06:33 PM by onehandle
Those who think that lung cancer is the big risk are fooling themselves.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:07 PM
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:20 PM
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11. Bullshit!
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:34 PM
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12. Key word: MAY.
Then again, they MAY lessen the chances, too.

NOTHING strikes me as worthless as a health-related research which can't come up with a stronger conclusion than "may increase this," "may decrease that" and so on.

I'm a smoker, and even though I'm not overly hungry I'm going to go open a can of pears right now.
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:36 PM
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13. I'd file it under OMG!!1!


And, next week there will be a study showing just the opposite.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:45 AM
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21. Awwww
That is the cutest little hamster. :loveya:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:50 PM
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14. too lazy to look at link
and it is to a yahoo article anyway - what was the sample size and how were other variables accounted for? Interesting tidbit if any reality to it, though.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 11:18 PM
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15. Probably more BS. Like the red-meat study.
The linked article doesn't have enough info. When I see the actual journal article I will evaluate their experimental design and their analyses.

BTW the red-meat study had the problem that those eating the most red meat also smoked more, exercised less, ... That study also "showed" that people who never smoked and who ate more fish/chicken had increased risk.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 11:27 PM
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16. What happens if you eat tobacco?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:22 AM
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17. well, I guess I'm totally fucked then
Oh well. I love smoking and zucchini. Damn it.
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friedgreentomatoes Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:49 AM
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18. Good!
Fruits are expensive.

*proceeds to strike out the fruit names off the shopping list*
:party:
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:27 AM
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19. Well, the only way I could think how this might work,
is that the cancer gets 'fed' by whatever the vegetables provide. Cancer, after all, is unregulated cell growth. Either way, don't smoke seems to be the take home message.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:59 AM
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20. What about smoking banana peels?
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 09:06 AM
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22. :::::::fakes cough cough cough:::::::::
:)
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