Palin Says She Considered Abortion

[bluevoter4life]

Source: AOL News

EVANSVILLE, Ind. (April 16) -- In her first out-of-state political appearance since last fall's presidential election, former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin confided to 3,000 at a right-to-life event here that she had "just for a fleeting moment" contemplated seeking an abortion after learning she was pregnant with her son Trig, who will turn 1 on Saturday.

Back in Alaska, the governor's decision to travel here, in the final days of a heated legislative session, was criticized even by some fellow Republicans as an inappropriate attempt to position herself for a 2012 presidential run at a time when she was badly needed at home.

But at the Vanderburgh County Right-to-Life banquet -- the country's largest such annual event -- supporters said they only hoped the governor's appearance at the Oscar-length, four-hour dinner was a warm-up for a Palin presidential bid: "She's showing that you can choose life and still be successful," said Susan Weber, a school cafeteria manager and mother of four from Princeton, Ind., who was wearing a Sarah Palin 2012 campaign button and had brought along a book she hoped to get autographed -- 'The Terminatrix,' featuring a gun-toting, leather-clad (and Photoshopped) Palin on the cover.

The governor's 30-minute speech was folksy and full of digressions, but also surprisingly confessional, and she went into some detail about initially panicking after learning, 13 weeks into her pregnancy, that her son would be born with Down syndrome: "That blew me away, it rocked my world… It was a time I asked myself, was I going to walk the walk?"



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Republican hypocrisy at its finest. This also shows the contradiction of the anti-choice movement. Thank God she lost. I don't even want to imagine where we would be had these two won.

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. Will this woman stop at nothing to stay in the national news

Governor Palin:

Please go away.

Sincerely,
The United States of America

[SkyDaddy7]

3. I honestly think...

...the more public appearances she does the better. This way the country will be reminded of just how scary and crazy she is!

The Bronze Age darling of the Republican Party! I personally can't wait to see her in the debates when she is on her own! It should be very interesting and very funny!

[ShareTheWoods]

27. The USA consensus of Palin

I've been looking for a link to a survey of American thoughts on Palin. Any ideas where one might find a link?

[alcibiades_mystery]

33. Awwww...do i have a new friend?

:hi:

[biopowertoday]

2. There is NOTHING hypocritical about a woman admitting the range

of emotions she went through when confronted with the news about carrying a Down's pregnancy.

[get the red out]

5. But she had a CHOICE

which is something she and her party would deny to all other women. I salute her in making the choice she made; but she had the choice. These people just want to limit women's reproductive freedom so desperately, yet forget that they benefit from those same freedoms.

[biopowertoday]

12. I was referring

to the range of emotions--her honesty in publicly talking of these emotions she went through--and the way the OP seemed to be slamming her for being honest.

I am for choice related to abortion and always have been.

[KittyWampus]

32. I don't think she's honest. If she were, she'd admit she didn't want Trig, starved herself during

the pregnancy and did her best to remain in denial about it.

She'd be honest that getting on a plane flight for hours after the water broke shows she had no desire for that baby.

And maybe, if she were honest, she'd say something about the way she hauled that baby around during the campaign and kept him up late at night and exposed him to countless germs he's vulnerable to.

She'd be honest if she admitted to not emotionally bonding with Trig and finding him useful only as a prop as evidenced by the way she held him like a sack of potatoes and failed to interact with him.

[biopowertoday]

37. Lives and unfounded rumors make all Democrats look

vile and stupid. At best it is Rovian character assassination. We are better than that (maybe)

[No Elephants]

47. "We?" And those are not unfounded rumors.

[mitchum]

58. "We?" Do you have a tapeworm?

[DebbieCDC]

63. "Palin" and "honesty" don't belong in the same sentence

[TankLV]

81. which has NOTHING to do with it - it's about her HYPOCRISY, not her fucking "decisions"...

SHE would DENY OTHER THE VARY SAME CHOICE SHE WAS FREE TO MAKE!!!

[catzies]

74. THANK YOU.

You said exactly what I feel about the matter.

Frankly I don't care what CHOICE she made. But at least she has CHOICE.

[TEmperorHasNoClothes]

6. except when that woman wants to outlaw abortion, even for rape and incest victims== hypocrisy

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Your hero, Sarah Palin

:eyes:

[biopowertoday]

13. Your ASSumption is wrong.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Sure it is

:eyes:

[TankLV]

83. Too late - that asshole is TOMBED!!!

give any repuke long enough, and eventually they CRACK and REVEAL THEMSELVES...

[ShareTheWoods]

29. Any chance you could back that up?

Usually when someone makes a claim about someone, they back it up with some solid evidence.

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. Oh, this is more in the vein of

sarcastic sniping from the peanut gallery. If you're looking for worked out argument, try to 9/11 forum, baby.

[biopowertoday]

38. Rovian distraction. I wonder if you can answer the question or if

just prefer to distract??

[alcibiades_mystery]

40. I'm too busy reading the footnotes for

The Hermeneutics of the Subject. What a series of lectures!

:rofl:

[biopowertoday]

41. we can discuss it in another thread. You are distracting again and have not

responded to the question.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. I'm not going to, eitherq

Largely because I don't give a shit.

[biopowertoday]

44. your posts on this thread bring shame to Democrats. bye

[alcibiades_mystery]

46. Whatev...

[Dappleganger]

52. Except for the fact that EVERYTHING about Palin

is hypocritical, so her announcing this is subject to as much scrutiny as any other ridiculous, false statement she has made in the past to the media.

Her trying to lump herself in with other moms who have give birth to challenged children the world over is freaking LAUGHABLE. She didn't even announce she was pregnant until very late as it was obvious she was embarrassed. Then she paraded that tired little boy up on stage like some kind of damn trophy. She did nothing but try to be a pretend 'hero' in the same vein she pretended to be 'pro-life' by insisting that her daughter keep her baby.

[gabby garcia]

64. I do believe the op is stating

what most of us clearly see here -
the hypocrisy lies in her stating that she even thought about her choices when if she had her way there would be none.

gg

[IndianaGreen]

82. Palin kept her pregnancy hidden from the public

and after clearly making a decision based on politics, then she decided to announce to a surprised Alaska that she had been pregnant for weeks.

[luvspeas]

4. I wonder what would have gone on in that fleeting moment....

If abortion was not a legal and safe option. She can't even admit to herself that the right to choose was there for her when she needed it.

[xchrom]

7. she says a lot of things -- and some of them are lies. nt

[thereismore]

8. She admitted she thought about it, but decided otherwise. I don't see the problem.

She would probably think about it even if she had no legal CHOICE, so what is the big deal.

[luvspeas]

11. hyp-o-crite

–noun
1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

Origin:1175–1225; ME ipocrite < OF < LL hypocrita < Gk hypokrits a stage actor, hence one who pretends to be what he is not, equiv. to hypokr(nesthai) (see hypocrisy ) + -tēs agent suffix

[thereismore]

14. She said she struggled with it but made the right choice. That is not hypocrisy.

You cannot judge people for thoughts. You can only judge them for actions.

Look I hate all republicans, but her admission does not hypocrisy make.

[provis99]

71. baloney. Its perfectly valid to judge people for their thoughts.

And Palin had severely hypocritical thoughts. Thus, she is a hypocrite.

[Arugula Latte]

75. Yes it does. She's adamantly against OTHER women having that choice.

For her, well, she considered that choice because she's Sarah Palin and it happened to HER. She's a huge hypocrite.

[biopowertoday]

16. Demeaning women who have to make

these choices and the emotions they go through at that time makes you look petty and does not do Democrats any favors.

[luvspeas]

19. Did you just use the word CHOICE?

I am not demeaning anyone, and I'm not being petty. there is a serious disconnect in your logic that is frighteningly ignorant.

I laughed-I cried-I killed a grizzly.

[Dogtown]

20. So, you ASSume

that Palin is disclosing openly and honestly her *true* feelings?


I'm not naive enough to believe in her or you.

[biopowertoday]

22. I happen

to have worked in a counseling enviroment---in the new genetics area. Over the years as new tests are developed and we are able to determine fetal abnormalities earlier and earlier and more and more--medicine advances. But for the women --so so much anger, and disappointments and your name the emotion--it comes though. and it does not matter if they have a D. R or I--or green after their name or what neighborhood they live in.

Your biased opine is immature and uncaring.

I find your comments rude. Grow up.

Bye

[Dogtown]

26. I find your's disingenuous.

The woman has a proven record of prevarication and opportunism. I doubt she's had an honest emotional reaction in her life. She seems to spend her life analyzing the angles or enraged over her disappointments.

Her politics have nothing to do with this discussion. I believe that she is an unfit mother who cares only for projecting a viable image to her target audience.

Fecundity does not a mother make.


Your very narrow "perceptions" suggest either limited societal experience or an agenda. Are you so blinded by involvement that you can't imagine this politician *using* this misfortune?

Or are you portraying her as a martyr to protect her from our righteous distrust?


BTW, "opine" is a verb. I possess an 'opinion'; sometimes I 'opine' in this forum.

Your thesaurus is your friend...

[ShareTheWoods]

30. Grammar cops

May want to write yourself a ticket too for the usage of "your's" in your Subject.

[biopowertoday]

43. :-)

[No Elephants]

45. Interesting posting there, ShareTheWoods.

[Dogtown]

53. The possesive of "your";

Why is a possesive not appropriate in this instance?


also, not a grammynanny. Poster was being pretentious and provided me with a gorcyism. That's alwys a free 10 point bonus.

[dustbunnie]

36. In this case, her emotion may well have been honest. It's just that she's a typical narcissist.

So rules don't apply to her. In her mind, it probably makes perfect sense.

And some Christians have a powerful knack for deluding themselves. I have a friend who used to work at a Planned Parenthood and she said it was amazing how these Christian girls could be outside one day protesting, and sneaking in for their abortion the next. As soon as they got off the table, they'd spit out 'BABYKILLER' at the doctor and get right back into the protest line. They managed to project their own responsibility onto the people helping them. Others had the capacity to truly believe that "their" abortions were justified while others making the same choice were in the wrong. Goes with the territory of being a right-wing fundie.

[Dogtown]

51. It may have.

My real concern was countering the attempt to lump her in a 'set' of other mothers experiencing the situation. Thus, attacking Palin = attacking 'motherhood'.


That's a favored troll-ploy.

[dustbunnie]

57. Ahhh. gotcha!

:hi:

[Timefortruth]

49. So she was upset, who would't be?

The point is that if she honestly believed abortion was killing a baby she never would have considered abortion.

As for the rest, she admitted she waited 36 hours after her water broke to seek treatment in a pregnancy with a premature, special needs baby who had a heart condition. Even when she did bother to get medical help it was in a hospital without a NICU, even a simpleton would understand that a sick preemie need specialized care. Her behavior that would be irresponsible from a 15 year old, much less a grown mother of four.

Prolife my ass.

[Javaman]

10. so changing ones mind is not a choice, how?

failin: changing the course of stupidity one inane comment at a time.

[JayMusgrove]

15. I wonder if she was doing and tea bagging while she was in

the lower 48.

This woman is the epitome of a tea bagger. And most other tea baggers love her because she is smarter than they are.

[Barack_America]

18. The question is, was she glad to have had that option?

Even though she made a different choice, was she glad to have had a choice at all?

[surrealAmerican]

23. I guess we're supposed to take from her comment ...

... that she would have been much happier if she had no choice, and even having that thought cross her mind somehow traumatized her?

[KittyWampus]

35. Other questions- does she resent Trig's existance? Does she consider him an obstable at worst

or a prop for political gain at best?

Was she considering his welfare when subjecting him to countless germs, over stimulation and late night-hours during the campaign?

[DinahMoeHum]

21. Fine, she made HER choice. WHY THE FUCK CAN'T SHE LET OTHERS MAKE THEIRS ????

faced with the same issue?????????

Sheesh, what a selfish flaming asshole.

:grr:

[babydollhead]

24. Who hasn't?

It's a huge thing to consider.

[Nihil]

25. Shame her mother didn't ...

... just sayin' ...
:evilgrin:

[CountAllVotes]

60. her mother had NO CHOICE

women had no right to choose when Sarah Palin was conceived. Too bad so few seem to remember this.

:kick:

[davsand]

28. She admitted to a human emotion that is a common one.

I can respect that because it might just be honest.

What I cannot respect is any woman that can admit to having experienced that feeling yet she chooses to deny OTHER women the right to make that same decision. The lack of compassion at work there is just sickening.



Laura

[brooklynite]

31. How nice that she had a CHOICE to make...

...even if for a "fleeting moment".

[AngryOldDem]

39. Hypocrisy is right.

And I bet a lot of other so-called "pro-lifers" would actually give it more than a "fleeting thought" if they or their kids found themselves in a similar situation.

Now, she should just STFU about this issue. All credibility is gone, not that she had a hell of a lot to begin with.

[rocktivity]

48. Pre-click question: Sarah or Bristol?

:evilgrin:

But seriously, folks, the point that is even a "fleeting moment" is A CHOICE--and it's a moment that ALL women have the right to have.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[twitomy]

62. I think she would say

she was "tempted" to do something she considers immoral. And in that light, we all are tempted. Jesus was tempted too. Didnt make him a hypocrite. The fact that she ultimately stood by her beliefs and had the child is what counts. If she would have aborted the child then I think the label "hyprocrite" would apply. But here on DU she is damned if she does, damned if she doesnt.

[rocktivity]

67. You have the right decide against an abortion because you consider it to be immoral.

What you DON'T have, legally OR morally, is the right to take that right away from anyone else.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[enola fay]

50. Sarah Palin is a user not above exploiting her own children.

The governor's 30-minute speech was folksy and full of digressions, but also surprisingly confessional, and she went into some detail about initially panicking after learning, 13 weeks into her pregnancy, that her son would be born with Down syndrome: "That blew me away, it rocked my world… It was a time I asked myself, can I somehow use this to the benefit of my career?"

[Turborama]

54. WOW! I haven't seen the speech, did she really say that last bit?

Edited to add a Welcome message.

Sorry, hadn't noticed your post count. Great introductory comment, look forward to seeing more of them. Hope you stick around too, I think you're going to like it here. :thumbsup:




:hi:

[enola fay]

56. lol, no. i just corrected her quote...

to match how she really feels!

[Tikki]

55. Welcome to DU......

:hi: hope you stick around...look forward to
more of your posts..

ps..I am just not a Palin fan...

Tikki

[enola fay]

59. Thank you...

for the warm welcome! I am planning on sticking around...as soon as I figure this place out!

[Sub Atomic]

61. It's too bad your mother didn't think of abortion, Sarah.

I'm sure if she could have foreseen the thing you've become she would have second thoughts.

[polichick]

65. "I'm so happy I made the choice I did. No other woman should have that choice."

Signed, Psycho Sarah.

[nomorenomore08]

66. I think a lot of Palin types feel they need laws against "X" to restrain themselves from doing "X."

It's really no different from Ted Haggard speaking out against gay marriage. And it shows you what a weak moral center they have, or perhaps none at all.

[polichick]

68. I think you're right - these types also want both a "strong leader" in DC...

...and a big guy in the sky to keep them in line - they seem terrified of themselves (and everyone else).

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

69. I'm sure she was very conflicted...

about shooting wolves, or feeding her child to them.

[JI7]

70. she is a hypocrite for even considerinig abortion

since she opposes abortion rights.

[kdmorris]

72. Typical example

of someone telling everyone that the choice they made it the only right choice.

If another woman had made a different choice, it wouldn't be any less wrong, in my opinion. But people like Sarah Palin think that they can dictate to the rest of us what is the right thing to do based on choices they made in their lives.

Part of the wonder of the human experience is that we are not all alike. While sometimes that can be frustrating, this woman still doesn't have the right to say that we should all be like her because only she is capable of making good choices.

Fuck her. Just another grasp at relevancy.

[rainbow4321]

73. Bigger part of the story..she admitted to hatching a coverup plan

If you listen closely to her tale, she says "I was in Indiana, no one knew me there, no one WOULD EVER KNOW".
Ahh, now we see the true Sarah..plotting cover up plans..the thought apparently came to her during that "fleeting moment" (her words) that she contemplated getting that abortion.

[IggleDoer]

85. A political decision??

So the decision whether or not toabort Trig was a political calculation since "no one would know."

[onager]

76. Say what?

...Sarah Palin confided to 3,000 at a right-to-life event here that she had "just for a fleeting moment" contemplated seeking an abortion...

Telling 3,000 people ANYTHING isn't "confiding." In this case, the appropriate work is "pandered."

[GoddessOfGuinness]

77. I still think her reckless behavior toward the end of her pregnancy

(flying to Texas to speak and flying back to Alaska after she started going into labor) was a latent desire for it to terminate.

[and-justice-for-all]

78. Dictating ones right to choose is fascist...

Right to life people are nothing more then control freaks; of Palin had won, we would be in a world of hurt right now. As its been stated "When fascism comes to America, it will wrapped in a flag carrying a bible."

[JBoy]

79. Can't be true. Sarah Palin DOES NOT BLINK when faced with a decision.

[TankLV]

80. Too bad her PARENTS didn't...

If her mother had had an abortion, THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER OFF...that's a GIVEN...

[rainbow4321]

84. Some tidbits to note about SP's speech

From over at palindeception blog comment section:

1) SP refers to when Bristol first told her about being preg with Tripp..called Bristol "her star student and athlete" child. Too bad for SP that people are remembering that by the time Bristol told SP about the pregnancy, she was already a high school drop out and not on any athletic team. Bristol went MIA from ALL school districts roughly Nov/Dec 2007. Not in Wasilla or Anchorage (she supposedly transferred to).

2)Bristol being Trig's primary caregiver..took him to her OB/Gyn appt while Todd was being interviewed for Esquire. Went to Target, picked a car seat out for him. All per the Esquire article done recently. when she had that ob/gyn appt, Todd was at home with the reporter...why not LEAVE the kid home with "dad"? Also in the Esquire article was Bristol bitching outloud in front of the reporter that SHE always had to watch Trig and demanded that Willow watch him for a change. Todd finally sternly told Willow it was her turn to watch him. (Missing from all of these scenarios: Trig's supposed mother SARAH).

3) Links to articles where SP has said that she NEVER considered abortion (so much for dramatic speech in Indiana where she talked about her "fleeting moment". Is she lying now or was she lying for these articles back then??)
http://electexiles.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/gov-sarah-palin-and-her-son-trig/

http://blog.aul.org/2008/08/29/alaska-governor-sarah-palin-mccains-vp-pick-whats-her-abortion-views/
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[jmowreader]

86. Click on your browser's search box and type all these words

"The only moral abortion is my abortion."

It will lead you to a story about some fairly rabid anti-choicers who, when faced with an unwanted pregnancy--either their own or their daughter's--chose that which they wish to take away from the rest of us.

I DO remember Sarah Palin claiming that abortion never entered into her mind after Trig was pronounced to be a Trisomy 21 fetus. Now we see that it really did--you KNOW it did, there's no way around it. I mean, come on: she was in her forties when she got pregnant with him, she's got a full-time job that requires a LOT of travel..."can I really do this? Can I give this all up to take care of this child?"