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biopowertoday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:57 AM
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McCain campaign manager: GOP should back same-sex marriage
Source: cnn


updated 6:47 p.m. EDT, Fri April 17, 2009

McCain campaign manager: GOP should back same-sex marriage

* Story Highlights
* Steve Schmidt served as Sen. McCain's presidential campaign manager
* Schmidt spoke to Log Cabin Republicans on Friday
* Conservatives should embrace same-sex marriage, Schmidt told the group
* The party, he argued, will grow by accepting gay rights


From Dana Bash
CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent



WASHINGTON (CNN) --
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In a speech Friday to Log Cabin Republicans, a conservative gay rights group, Steve Schmidt said allowing same-sex marriage is in line with the conservative credo of keeping government out of people's private lives.

"There is a sound conservative argument to be made for same-sex marriage," Schmidt, who was McCain's campaign manager, told the group. "I believe conservatives, more than liberals, insist that rights come with responsibilities. No other exercise of one's liberty comes with greater responsibilities than marriage. In a marriage, two people are completely responsible to and for each other."

He added: "If you are not willing to accept and faithfully discharge those responsibilities, you shouldn't enter the state of matrimony, and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you're straight or gay. It is a responsibility like no other, which can and should make marriage an association between two human beings more fulfilling than any other."

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In fact, nearly 3 in 10 self-identified gays and lesbians voted Republican in the last presidential election, according to exit polling...................

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/17/schmidt.log.cabin/index.html




I think things are slowly changing in the GOP. Never thought I would see this.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:02 AM
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1. Who?
Anyway, it's a bit late for all this, isn't it? All the straws have floated away and the GOP are fading into obscurity...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:38 AM
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13. I think it is foolish to believe that the GOP is fading into obscurity.
Just let Democrats get cocky and overconfident in power and believe they cannot lose and the GOP will be back. Nearly 60 million people still voted for McCain last November, so I wouldn't simply dismiss that number.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:44 PM
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17. "The Republican Point of No Return"
I tend to agree with the author of this piece, they are running out of options and their recent tactic of 'going nuclear' is doing them more harm than good. It's not about Democrats getting 'cocky and overconfident' (I agree that would obviously be a bad idea), they're damaging themselves, on our behalf...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-loewe/the-republican-point-of-n_b_188139.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:16 AM
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2. Is EXPIDIENT here?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:38 AM
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3. Uh oh, somebody's about to be isolated from his collegues
Sad, they just never get it.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:40 AM
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4. Does he mean
3 out of the 10 log cabin Repukes? :rofl: I don't know where he got his "infromation" Faux Noise thanks for infroming us.
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wakeoftheflood Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:49 AM
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5. .
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 01:51 AM by wakeoftheflood
Gain a few gay votes, lose lots of bible thumper votes. I don't see the advantage.
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:58 AM
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6. sounds like good old fashioned pandering to me
the GOP will never get it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:23 AM
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7. The Republicans have been gay-bashing for as long as I can remember: of course, it would be great
if they decided to drop the nonsense and concentrate on substantive issues -- but face it: they'll really stuck in the corner until the paint dries
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:42 AM
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8. Republicans cannot keep their neo theo base intact without the wedge issues of
gay rights and choice. However, those issues alienate sane independents, and Republicans cannot win without attracting some independents. By the same token, Republicans cannot win without their nee theo base. So, it seems to me that Republicans painted themselves into a corner with their "Moral Majority" strategy.

Thank you, Richard Nixon.

Here's hoping they don't figure out a way to get themselves out of it. On the other hand, if Republicans become more like Democrats, that's a win for Democrats too. Democrats will win before Dems Lite win.

So, I'm thinking it's all good news for Democrats here.

However, right now, it's the economy, stupid, just as it was when Clinton won. If Obama can fix it, he has a second term If not, he doesn't, which he himself has said. And the last 30 years left us in a hell of a hole. So, best wishes for you success with the economy, President Obama.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:03 AM
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9. LOL at the 3 out of 10 number - self loathing is so funny to me

sad, and funny
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:21 AM
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10. things are NOT changing in the GOP, guys like this are not welcome in the party
and will not get anywhere. take Michael Steele as an example, even though he ends up kissing ass they still hold it against him for criticizing their Limbaugh and saying gays are born gay and there should be abortion rights.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:25 AM
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11. 3 out 0f 10? ! That's very hard to believe. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:17 AM
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12. GOP, Don't listen to this guy! Stay the course!
What you really need to do is split into two... maybe three parties.

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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:42 AM
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14. Nearly 3 in 10 self-identified gays voted R?
That would be somewhere in the 25% range.

I am not sure I believe that, but it could be that they voted for some OTHER Republican on the ballot, I doubt that many gay people are stupid enough to vote for Palin.
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biopowertoday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:28 PM
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15. well, like so many, they probably are not single issue voters
but I have to agree, the number does seem high.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:17 PM
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16. now I just wish that the Democrats would back gay marriage as well
including lots on here
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:54 PM
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18. He's absolutely right
and the embrace between the political and religious right is likely to be shown as a deathly one to both parties.

Stampeding individual rights conflicts with their libertarian and conservative (small "c" - meaning slow to change, careful) agendas. There isn't anything to gain but a dwindling radical religious right.

There is simply no legal or civic rationale for refusing to allow same sex partners to marry. And yes, I also agree with him that such a commitment comes with great responsibilities as well. (I remember saying that many, many years ago to a gay friend, when I said I didn't much like the idea that live-in partners could be given benefits... I thought they should be allowed to marry, and then frankly HAVE to marry in order to assume the same rights that married people get. A long-term commitment is what is best for society - gay or straight.)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:09 PM
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19. Great, back it...but I will never vote for a repuke..nt
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