Blind to be cured with stem cells

[deminks]

Source: The Times

BRITISH scientists have developed the world’s first stem cell therapy to cure the most common cause of blindness. Surgeons predict it will become a routine, one-hour procedure that will be generally available in six or seven years’ time.

The treatment involves replacing a layer of degenerated cells with new ones created from embryonic stem cells. It was pioneered by scientists and surgeons from the Institute of Ophthalmology at University College London and Moorfields eye hospital.

This week Pfizer, the world’s largest pharmaceutical research company, will announce its financial backing to bring the therapy to patients.

The treatment will tackle age-related macular degeneration (AMD), the most common cause of blindness. It affects more than 500,000 Britons and the number is forecast to increase significantly as people live longer. The disease involves the loss of eye cells.

Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6122757.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=2015164

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Please, let it be so, and don't let Pfizer make a mockery of it.

[Oregone]

1. Maybe Jesus was a stem cell

[stray cat]

2. At one point we all were

[KittyWampus]

12. I'm not sure whose post I love the most, yours or who you replied to.

:loveya:

[Ian David]

77. The Iraqis we've been bombing were stemcells once, too. Someone remind the fundies. n/t

[JohnWxy]

27. wonderful. One less "jusus" thrown in the garbage at a fertility clinic.

20,000 zygotes a year thrown in the garbage at fertility clinics. As many as six or seven destroyed for one to be possibly born.

[MADem]

3. That is INCREDIBLE NEWS!!! That will change so many lives! nt

[CountAllVotes]

4. you are so right!

I have great hope! My husband has wet AMD and it blinded him in one eye basically overnight. He had laser surgery for it but it did no good. So far his other eye is unaffected. They said when he was dx'd that it would spread to the other eye within 5 years. That was 7 years ago. So far it has not happened.

I hope to god this works out SOON!!!

:kick: & Recommend!!!

[MADem]

5. I forgot to recommend--I just did. I hope more people see this. It's BIG.

There are so many elderly people who, if they could only fucking SEE, could live more independent lives and be more productive in their golden years.

This is a wonderful development.

[CountAllVotes]

8. it is a great/wonderful development!!

My husband's older sister has this too. She is blind but otherwise she is in pretty good shape! They had her in a nursing home for a short period of time and she managed to get out of it, god bless her! It was not necessary!

To put someone in a nursing home because they are blind but otherwise fairly well is a crime IMO.

Thanks for your positive vibes on this. It is a major development!

I've noted btw that many of these "new" treatments, etc. have been suddenly popping up since the election of Pres. Obama. :think:

:D

:kick:

[AtheistCrusader]

79. This breakthrough occurred in the UK so.. No, BUT

We are now light years behind researchers in countries around the world.

[CountAllVotes]

84. my husband has access to the UK for medical care

if necessary we will go there for help. There is no way in hell I'm going to let him go blind on me damnit, no fucking way!!!

:dem:

P.S. Don't you wish you had a wife like me? :evilgrin:

*ack*

[AtheistCrusader]

102. I wish you both the best.

:hug:

[Dangerously Amused]

18. Amen to that. AMD took my father's life.

Of course it didn't kill him directly, but it may as well have; it totally destroyed his vision, and since he was an artist he lost his will to live along with his vision.

[goclark]

72. I'm praying with you and for your husband

This is such a blessing, such a blessing!

[CountAllVotes]

97. thank you so much!

Prayers are needed around here. It is just the two of us and the cats. No family left on my side, his side has lots of very old brothers and sisters that do not seem particularly interested in us.

That seems to be the way it goes as you get older and develop problems. People/friends fade into the woodwork awfully fast. I often think they are they fear being asked for HELP.

I'd never ask any of them for HELP, believe me. We will go on as we have gone on for over 30 years now. We shall overcome I hope!

Thanks again for you good thoughts and prayers for both of us. :)

[goclark]

104. I am a care giver for my Mom and I don't drive at night

bcause of my vision.

I am always shocked at the number of people that will tell me, 'It's only six PM, you can drive, it's light out.

It may be light to them but they don't have a vision problem!

I do have a loyal group of 3 friends that will drive us places in the evening but I am beginning to think that some people just don't have a Care gene.

Others have told me to " just get some of those night vision glasses( I have tried those) and you can drive."

They don't have a clue.

Because of my vision issues, I try to be more sensitive to all of the helath issues for my friends. I try to help them in so many ways.
My thoughts are with you always.

[roguevalley]

44. my mom went through hell with a bad cornea. this is so wonderful.

think of the people with diabetes who lost their sight? It is my biggest fear myself. God bless this. God bless it.

[drgonzosghost]

6. YES!!! Imagine the new music from Stevie Wonder after he's cured!!

It's nice to see news this good come around!

[ginnyinWI]

9. it couldn't cure all blindness though.

There are eye diseases which can't be cured by cell regeneration. And someone blind from birth would have a very difficult if not impossible time trying to see even if all of their seeing equipment was restored. Has to do with the ability of the brain to be able to make sense of the input it would be getting from the eyes for the first time.

I'm not a doctor so this is just what I understand from information I've picked up here and there.

[AlbertCat]

17. it couldn't cure all blindness though.

It will never cure Religious & right wing blindness...no.

But then, it's science, not a magic miracle.

[Best_man23]

34. If it could only cure all blindness

Some blindness even science is not capable of curing, such as the blindness of ignorance and intolerance.

[TheEuclideanOne]

42. Maybe we could use stem cells to grow Ninjas assassins

with the unstopable desire to kill off the Religious and Right wing zealots. Just a thought.

On a different note, if we had embraced this 8 years ago, this means that portion of the population that has been religiously protesting stem cell research, but has Macular Degeneration, could actually be cured next year. It would be great to identify the people who have been fighting against the cure to their own disease. (the vision one, that is).

[NoSheep]

52. Yep. I say they should be told they can't get the treatment, then

the doctor could say...."Naaaah, just kidding" but not before taking a picture of the look on their face.

[NoSheep]

51. Can I quote you?

:thumbsup:

[MADem]

11. First thing Stevie will do is look in the mirror, look at his handlers, and say "You BASTARDS!!!!"

Why didn't you tell me I looked like shit? Why'd you let me keep this stupid hairdo? I'm BALDING, fachrissake!!!!!!

Someone, quick--get me a razor and a Brooks Brothers SUIT!!!! And .... Yer FIRED!!!!!

:rofl:

[bkkyosemite]

32. Stevie does not have Macular Degeneration. I do and you get it when you get older.

It looks like it's going to take years yet for it to be available for the public. But it will help a lot of people.

[Clear Blue Sky]

53. Won't cure Stevie Wonder, unfortunately...

[FailureToCommunicate]

68. Stevie's innervision sees more that most of us ever will... Signed, sealed and delivered!

[pauldg0]

82. Obama loves................

Stevie Wonder. Stevie's music was a result of his blindness though...."I Can See Clearly Now......"...you know that song???!!!

[old mark]

7. REC. I wonder if stem cells can be used to cure Right Wingers

of insanity.....


mark

[FLAprogressive]

10. but they're little babies! the bible says so!

:sarcasm:

[Bozita]

13. Recommended. My mother went blind from wet MD about 10 years ago.

[Auggie]

14. Fantastic. And just the tip of the iceberg, one hopes.

[tomreedtoon]

15. I'm sorry. I always doubt "Popular Mechanics" articles like this.

I had a youth of magazines like "Popular Mechanics" that were full of wonders, based upon recent discoveries. Remember DMSO, and how it was supposed to provide cures for all kinds of common diseases? Remember the flying cars, the backyard hovercraft, the American highways with high speeds that would make the Autobahn look like a parking lot by comparison?

When you get it in drug stores, at a price people can afford, then you can disturb my sleep. Not until.

[Zuiderelle]

23. Remember when those two guys made the thing that could fly in the air?

Remember when someone said that a man would one day walk on the moon? Remember the idiot who claimed that we would one day have computers we could hold in the palm of our hands? Remember that guy who said that we could harness electricity? Remember that crazy guy that said he found the cure for polio?

Crazy stuff.

[tomreedtoon]

29. That was done by practical inventors, not Pop Mechanics writers.

They didn't paint pretty painterly pictures on the cover of their magazines saying "Blindness Cured!" "Flying Cars by 1995!" "AIDS Cured by Copper Bracelets!" or the other crap magazine writers throw up.

[TZ]

36. I'm in the field

This is legitimate and exciting research. People tend to ignore science journals when it comes to news. And I don't know what crap you read to think DMSO was any thing but pseudoscientific crap...just because you don't understand the science doesn't mean it's not legitimate

[tomreedtoon]

67. The article is false, and it won't be practical for decades.

Just like the Flying Car. Tell me this, Mr. In The Field: Will this cure be attempted on a blind human being in the next week? No? Well, then, it doesn't matter and it shouldn't be written up as a fait accompli.

And even if it is, as mentioned elsewhere, if it's under the control and copyright of Big Pharma, they will charge a million dollars a cure. Maybe a million an eye. It isn't going to be a real cure for perhaps the next forty years. So there is no joy in Blindville. Mighty Medicine has struck out. (Or actually isn't going to go to bat for decades.)

[AtheistCrusader]

80. Wow dude, wet blanket much?

Yeah, it's going to take several years (probably around 7 to ten) to get approved in the UK, and even longer to get approved by the FDA and brought to the US. It will be expensive, but not a million an eye, come on. If it works as they claim, it'll be here in probably ten years or less. The more margin they can charge on it, the faster it'll get brought over, sadly.

'Fast tracking' is a bit of an oxymoron with the FDA, but this kind of cure will probably get it, again, if it works. (This sort of treatment potentially risks several sorts of cancers, so it's going to get scrutinized 10 ways till sunday, etc.)


Aaaand queue up the right wing 'every multicelled blastocyst is a child with a soul' noise machine to fight it every step of the way too.

[tomreedtoon]

100. You are young. You will learn. You can NEVER wet blanket enough.

Life sucks. The rich get richer, the poor get blindness. The rich get cures, the poor get canes. What planet did YOU come from?

[AtheistCrusader]

101. I used to be a staunch pessimist.

I've rebounded a bit lately.

You were right to point out the cold reality that this potential cure is, exactly that: Potential. Also that it will be many years off, and very expensive, and when approved, will remain 'experimental' for some time for insurance purposes, and on and on and on. Totally right.

But I believe we have the capacity to learn, and improve, and that things are getting better. It's taking time, and it's hard to see in this crushing, and getting worse, economy... but it's coming.


I used to think that as a pessimist, I was the best person in the room equipped to deal with any problem.. but I see now that I can still be practical, without making everyone depressed. :hug:

[MADem]

87. You didn't read the article, I see. Or you have challenges understanding what you do read.

The clinical trials will kick off inside two years.

And, silly you, Pfizer is going to want to get their seed money back, and then make a little money as well. That's why it won't be a "million dollars a cure." The cost will be targeted to the patient's ability to pay--otherwise, they won't make any money. In the UK alone, there are half a million people with AMD. There are many more than that here in USA.

Ever hear the phrase "Fast dimes are better than slow dollars?" It's not that odd a concept.

[kenfrequed]

98. Uhm

I can more easily see a proper cure to blindness than I can a cancer treatment. I don't think there is a need to be excessively negative about this.

I also think an analogy to a flying car is a bit silly. A flying car is completely technologically possible there were innumerable possible prototypes generated It just ends up being an absurd contraption that is completely impractical.

Try not to be such a negativist.

[Zuiderelle]

41. Where are you getting Pop Mechanics writers from this?

You just don't like the "Blind to be cured with stem cells" title of it? I'm sure there were articles like "Polio to be eradicated worldwide" that came out after the cure was realized, which may be sensationalist but certainly doesn't take away from the importance of the findings. This is stem cells and how it may cure age-related macular degeneration. I don't see how you can compare that to "AIDS Cured by Copper Bracelets!"

[tomreedtoon]

66. Who do you think wrote the original article about The Cure?

It was a Popular Mechanics writer. Or the medical equivalent thereof.

It was a guy who read about this, thought "Gee, I can get five bucks by writing this article and making this experimental, untested and unused procedure sound like a breakthrough!"

It was PR. It wasn't a report about a real procedure. It was EXACTLY like the Flying Car articles in Popular Mechanics. Those blind people will stay blind for decades before they even get close to testing this stuff on human beings. It is the false raising of hope.

And if it's being done by Big Pharm, or a subsidiary thereof, only the very rich will be able to afford it, if and when it comes to market.

[Compline]

103. Adrian Thrills?

It may not be the original article, but it's the oldest I could find on such short notice:

<http://www.picturesofyou.us/78/78-12-16-nme-interview.htm>

[Name removed]

62. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sellitman]

64. spammer alert.

:puke:

[Dumak]

16. Don't worry, Pfizer will figure out a way to make it hugely expensive /nt

[Patiod]

33. Considering that Pfizer doesn't patent treatments, probably not

Pharma companies haven't been able to touch "regular" macular degeneration, just the less-common "wet" MD, which they can combat with cancer-fighting biologicals (anti-VEGFs) that stem the over-growth of new blood vessels. But this isn't the problem with "regular" AMD so those drugs are useless.

This is very exciting news - MD is a huge problem.

[SkyDaddy7]

19. This is wonderful news!

I suffered a incomplete spinal cord injury at C4-5 & C6-7 (In the neck) 6yrs ago...I know stem cell therapy is a long way from helping people with spinal cord injuries but this news keeps hope alive! When I hear Right Wing Bronze Age Thinking Republicans talk about how they are defenders of life it makes me want to puke! Sometimes I wish these right wingers would have to spend a day in a body with a spinal cord injury! Try having to put a catheter in to urinate every 6-8hrs; Having to physically stimulate bowl movements (many have to have another human being do it that for them, usually a family member); having to keep an timer with an alarm to go off every 30 min to remind you to shift your body so you don't get sores; having to have others bath you; and some people have to drive their electric wheel chairs with their tongue as they can't move any other body parts; and the list of other depressing things that one has to do on a daily basis living with a spinal cord injury!

I consider myself very lucky as my condition has improved enough that I can walk very short distances with a cane and I can use the bathroom on my own most of the time. But during my stay at the Shepherd Center (Spinal Cord & Brain Injury Hospital & Rehab) in Atlanta I became Friends with others who are not so lucky...On top of that many of us had our insurance companies drop our coverage and basically force us onto Medicare. I think there was some loop hole written into the Medicare Part D bill that allows insurance companies to drop those who are collecting Social Security Disability. That is what I was told. The Republican idiots scream SOCIALISM every time legislation is proposed for the poor and disabled and they have no clue all the Corporate Welfare that is going on behind the scenes.

I have to go to see my team of doctors at least every 3 months, my meds cost almost $500 every month and Medicare Part D only covers 5 months out of 12...To top it off I had to get divorced to enter Medicare without having to pay a penalty. So much for family values and the sanctity of marriage?

I am growing very tired of religion and the Bronze Age crap that comes with it...Especially those who claim to be so-called moderate Christians who lack the spine to stand up against the Bronze Age Knuckle Draggin Freaks who believe the same myths they do!

Rant over...I apologize for my anger but it helps to vent.

[CountAllVotes]

21. I am glad you are a bit better

you have pointed out some of the many, but certainly not all, problems and difficulties that disabled people live with.

If they don't have someone to help them they get dumped into nursing homes.

I hope they find a solution for you too! Hang in there my friend! :hug:

:kick:

[SkyDaddy7]

26. Thank-you!

I had no idea what people with spinal cord injuries have to live with until it happened to me. Plus the 8 weeks I was in the hospital and saw what everyone was going through! And YES, you are so right when it comes to those who are simply dumped into nursing homes and have no one to love them and try to keep their spirits up!

Thank you again for your kind words!

[CountAllVotes]

83. you are very welcome

and again, take care of yourself best you can. I hope to god no one ends up in a nursing home that does not need to be in one. It happens all of the time however.

It amazes me. It is god awful what some people will do to screw someone out of a damn buck.

Hang in there and may God bless you! :D

:D

[moggie]

60. About that socialism...

The research in the OP is from Moorfields Eye Hospital and UCL. My brother's sight was saved at a young age by Moorfields, and he continued to have world-class treatment from them for many years, at no cost to my rather poor parents. I got a degree at UCL, also at no cost to me or my parents. Socialism is rather thin on the ground here these days, sadly, but I'm grateful for its legacy.

[pengillian101]

76. No need to apologize, whatsoever.

"Rant over...I apologize for my anger but it helps to vent."

Glad to hear you are doing better! Being disabled - no matter what the condition - really sucks. Able-bodied folks really cannot imagine the thought that goes into each and every daily movement of disabled folks.

Best to ya, SkyDaddy7 :hi:

[Raksha]

20. This is wonderful news!

I just sent the link to an 84-year old friend who suffers from macular degeneration. Now all he has to do is live another 6-7 years for the treatment to become available.

[Jester Messiah]

22. Hooray for muthafuggin' SCIENCE!!!

And fuggoff fundies, we don't need your god or your greed any more.

[dborlando]

24. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x441673

[JohnWxy]

25. fanatastic. RECOMMENDED.

Just imagine. A zygote that would have been thrown in the garbage at a fertility clinic will one day enable the quality of life of living human to be immeasurably improved. hallelujah.

[Downwinder]

28. No wonder George was against stem call research,

he wanted to keep people blind.

[MindMatter]

30. God damn Bush

I wish I were a religious person because this man deserves to burn in hell. What kind of a horrible, twisted mind would push back these medical advances by 8 years? I'm so glad the rest of the works isn't as backwards as America has become under our Taliban regime.

[kenfrequed]

99. My thoughts exactly.

Thank you Bush for slowing down medical technology by almost a decade and dooming some people to disability and death.

[bullwinkle428]

106. If that fucker starts to lose his eyesight as the result of macular degeneration,

and chooses to forgo the option of treatment developed as the result of stem-cell research, I say he has every right to make that choice! PRO-CHOICE!! :evilgrin:

[FunkyLeprechaun]

31. They're doing the same thing for deaf people

Looking forward to seeing how that works.

[williesgirl]

35. Why let the pharmas have this? Why not keep it pure w/gov funding? rec'd

[TZ]

38. Ummm the pharma developed this because

They had availiability to stem cells during the federal ban. So we yank the science away from the developer because you don't approve of the people who developed it. Got it. Despite what tin foil hatters think Pharma companies do TONS of experimental research

[Joe Bacon]

37. How many people suffered this thanks to Bush?

Fuck You Bush and Fuck your biblebeating Christian pals who denied this to millions of people.

[sakabatou]

39. If this does work and works in the long term

Then that is great news for everyone.

[edc]

40. Irony

And he answered and said unto them, Go and tell John the things which ye have seen and heard; the blind receive their sight, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, the poor have good tidings preached to them. Luke 7:22

It is indeed ironic that it is secularists, humanists and liberals who embrace this commission far more than those who claim to be the oracles of God's will on earth.

[SteveG]

43. Of course those who disagree with using embryonic stem cells

will not choose to use this treatment, thus showing us how strongly they believe that this type of research is evil.

[Dangerously Amused]

45. Yes, the blind will remain blind. Poetic justice, no?

[FourScore]

46. I knew a girl from grade school who went blind from

a degenerative eye disease. I hope this helps her.

k/r

[loyalkydem]

47. For the first time

in years, I have hope again. I'm blind in one eye and I can't wait for this to come down

[NBachers]

85. Yup. Me too. I've got one eye gone and the other can go any time

I had a sudden attack of severe glaucoma a few years ago. I had no insurance and feared losing my job due to the fearful brutality from the owner. I just kept going to work every day until the pain got so bad I thought I had a bleeder in my brain. They drove me to County Hospital and dropped me off in the parking lot.

My situation has improved and I now have the best care in the world, but my other eye can go at any time. I hope similar good news becomes available for glaucoma patients. This one good eye feels like a worn out retread sometimes.

[mnhtnbb]

48. We've been waiting for this. Our youngest son has Stargardt's disease

which is a juvenile, genetic form of macular degeneration. He had sudden loss of vision in the third grade.
His vision stabilized at 20/200. He sees with his peripheral vision.

OMG. This is wonderful. He's finishing his freshman year at UNC. He's never been able to drive.

We knew that stem cell therapy was a distinct possibility for creating a cure for his disease.

God damn you to hell, George Bush. Damn you and all your self-righteous a$$hole fundies who have
wasted years preventing the discovery of stem cell therapies to help people.

Science is going to prevail.

:bounce: :applause: :bounce: :applause:

[stop the bleeding]

49. Cool thing is

This is in England, so no fundies to stop this.

[mainer]

50. Rightwingers MUST refuse it. If they have any principles.

Did you see the comments under the article, ragging on the fact these are embryonic stem cells? If they have moral objections to stem cell research, they should stand by their principles and just stay blind. And if they accept the treatment, they should be called on it.

[tomm2thumbs]

65. ironically they are already blind - and stem cells are of no use to that kind of blindness

[valerief]

74. Badda bing! nt

[loyalkydem]

93. That ooesn't bother me

Can you imagine what something like this means for someone like me who is blind? I can get my independence back. I no longer have to contend with loud noises when I go places. and hopefully not deal with vertigo issues. I'm damn excited about this.

[ACTION BASTARD]

54. Every single success story from this procedure will help crush the christian death cult's position

on ST's and it's research. God save the fucking Queen!

[Dukkha]

55. so how did all that praying help the blind, fundies?

or the "laying hands upon the blind"? Only science can perform miracles and and here's further proof.

[GentryDixon]

56. When are they going to find a cure for Diabetes?

My sister died from Diabetes complications ten years ago. I always felt there could have been a cure, had it not been so profitable to the Pharma's to treat the disease.

[progressoid]

57. Britain? How is that possible? They're SOCIALISTS!!!

[Lucky Luciano]

58. This is a travesty I tell you! A bloody outrage!

:sarcasm: (if it is not too obvious)

[Life Long Dem]

59. Every time I see

news related to stem cells explaining the health benefits I think of the 8 years this lack of research has robbed people of a decent life and continued life in itself.

[JerseygirlCT]

61. Wow, that would be fabulous news! nt

[intheozone]

63. Take that Laura Bush!!! You have been so wrong about EVERYTHING! nt

[vaberella]

69. Amazing...absolutely amazing. Well we know that GW was satan. n/t

[inna]

70. fantastic news, thanks for posting. rec'd. nt

[digidigido]

71. This is great news

[valerief]

73. This is fabulous news. I hope the right wingers don't find a way to kill it. nt

[Ian David]

75. Side effects...

[Igel]

78. 73 posts, and I have to be the one to point out that it's

probably going to enter the clinical trial phase in 2 years, if no problem develop between now and then in lab tests.

Granted, it's good to finally get something that makes it out of the lab--so many hopes were dashed by announcements that proved very, very premature. Built on hope, not science. But clinic trials aren't rubber stamps, by any means. Even things that pass clinical trials sometimes shouldn't pass clinical trials.

[MADem]

88. Seventy EIGHT, not three. But that was noted in the first post, actually.

It's well noted in the link. Even at that, though, the fact that Pfizer is putting money into this is cause for strong hope. It'll help people who are quite blinded, and those who think a three is an eight due to cuts in their field of vision....

[goclark]

105. Thanks for the information but we are still overjoyed

about the possibility.

Before, we had no vision of what could possibly solve this condition.

[rhysothink]

81. Lets hope they can spead up the process. Wonderful news. Thanks for the post

[burning rain]

86. Oy, the blastocysts-are-human-beings crowd must be freaking out.

^

[Arcana]

89. And what do the Rethugs say? That we're sacrificing precious 4-celled "babies" for health?

Well who cares what they think as long as we get shit done

[No Elephants]

90. We'll see. (Pun accidental)

[Optical.Catalyst]

91. It is so good to see the right wing religious fundamentalists get rebuffed by science. n/t

[Cairycat]

92. My father and sisters were blinded by this disease, now I

have it and have lost about 1/3 of the central vision in one eye. Thanks to expensive treatment (injections into the eye, costing about 3K every month) I haven't gone completely blind in that eye. My dad had worsening vision in his 50s, completely blind by 65, my sister blind at 55 - I'm 51. If this works out, I don't know whether to be happier that my sister will no longer be blind or that I won't have to completely lose my vision!

It's awful to think how the US ban on funding for this research has delayed curing AMD. And not just macular degeneration, but so many other diseases that could be cured.

The wingnuts are so sure that embryonic stem cells are useless - but the few lines that were left open to research on by the Bush administration were faulty. they are very sure that this treatment will lead to cancer. Who knows what bullshit reasoning they'll come up with if (when) it doesn't?

They're also sure that using embryonic stem cells will lead to women farming embryos for this use. I've never seen them even reply to the fact that there will be plenty of embryonic stem cells left over from in vitro fertilizations.

[RedCloud]

94. Will it cure Obam's blindness to Bush's crimes?

Just asking.

[mainer]

95. Is everyone taking their vitamins?

I started taking vitamins with lutein after my mom got AMD (she's almost blind now) and her ophthalmologist told me that vitamins may decrease the incidence by about 15%. It's not much of a decrease, but I'll take it. Especially since AMD tends to run in families.

[4_TN_TITANS]

96. Just imagine being the prick that kept this away from Americans

for eight years. So much precious time lost that could have produced breakthroughs like this. Ending the embryonic stem cell ban might just be Obama's biggest act of his entire presidency, and greatest gift to future generations. Stay tuned, more miracle cures are just around the corner....