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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:35 PM
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Detroit councilman walks away from mortgage Candidate for mayor saw value of home tumble as payment
Source: AP-MSNBC

updated 1 hour, 3 minutes ago

Detroit councilman walks away from mortgage
Candidate for mayor saw value of home tumble as payment set to rise


DETROIT - It was their dream home, a two-story, four-bedroom colonial in one of Detroit's nicest and most stable neighborhoods.

But then, one day in December, City Councilman Kwame Kenyatta and his wife packed up their belongings, locked the doors, mailed in the keys and walked away — adding another vacant house to the thousands in a city hard hit by the nation's mortgage crisis.

"We're already underwater when it comes to what we're paying on the house versus what the house is worth," Kenyatta said.

Around the country, the practice, sometimes referred to as "mortgage walking" or "jingle mail," appears to be growing. But for Kenyatta, the decision could do more than hurt his credit rating.

It could damage his bid for mayor of Detroit this summer, particularly since he has been one of the city's most vocal supporters of measures to improve neighborhoods and clean up blight.

(more)

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30311735/
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:41 PM
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1. Screw the banks. The banks did this to themselves and for some reason their execs are profiting.(nt)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:42 PM
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2. That is your money the banks lent out.
If you don't care about getting your life savings back then you should be crowing about the fact that banks are getting screwed.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:19 PM
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16. If I don't have more than the FDIC insured $250K in the bank, I don't care what happens to it.
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 06:20 PM by w4rma
And, I'm not dumb enough to keep more than $250K in a bank that's going under, anyway.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:22 PM
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19. How many top banks do you think the FDIC can afford to go under?
If the tax payers bail out the top banks, they prevent them from going to the FDIC thus saving your butt and mine.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:36 AM
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23. Let them go to the FDIC and let them reorganized under new management. And let them be sold off in
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 12:37 AM by w4rma
pieces. These "banks" are too big for the nation's good. And they are using the 'bailout' money to give to their already overpaid execs. I bet they wouldn't need bailouts if their salaries and dividends weren't so high.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:50 AM
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24. Did you realize the FDIC has a certain amount of funds?
They had to extend their line of credit with the Treasury. If Wachovia had failed that would have been IT. If Citi fails that will be IT.

The FDIC was trying to increase the fees it charges, but the banks can't afford to pay the amount so they had to bring it back down.

How do you think the FDIC runs anyway?

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/03/bank_closings04.html

FDIC Warns It's Running Out of Funds
Flurry of bank failures could burn through FDIC's reserves

March 4, 2009

The safest place for money right now is, at least theoretically, in a bank backed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which insures deposits up to $250,000. But hold on, FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair warns the agency’s funds could be quickly used up in a flurry of bank failures.

This week Bair warned that “a large number” of bank failures may occur through 2010 because of “rapidly deteriorating economic conditions.” That makes it necessary, she said, for the FDIC to levy a one-time fee on member banks.

“Without substantial amounts of additional assessment revenue in the near future, current projections indicate that the fund balance will approach zero or even become negative,” Bair said in a letter to the Independent Community Bankers of America.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:51 AM
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27. I know exactly how the FDIC is run. And I know that the TARP funds could be used to it shore up.
They'll need to be reorganized and split up, anyway. It's better to just get it done, rather than giving them infusions of money so that they can keep paying their execs huge bonuses.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:43 PM
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13. That "for some reason" is very easy to nail down to specifics.
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 05:44 PM by truedelphi
Specifically, the team that Obama has assembled is a really bad choice.

Bernanke, Geithner, Rubin, Sumemrs, Gensler, et al are not on the side of the middle class.

Somewhere in Hyde Park NY, a former President is rolling in his grave.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:20 PM
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18. Obama and the DLCers are failing on the economic front. (nt)
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:46 PM
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3. He also apparently had an adjustable
rate mortgage, since the article mentions that his "manageable" $2,600 per month mortgage was about to increase by $1000.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:48 PM
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4. Apparently....
the city council pays very well if 2600 was "manageable."
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:50 PM
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5. Ahhh where does it say if your house loses value you don't have to pay for it?
That is some *ucked up thinking. Now if you don't have a job that is a different matter. If you can't pay is different than you don't want to pay. How about my student loan? I didn't get the good job that I wanted, should I mail off the diploma and tell them tough titty's?
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:56 PM
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12. There is a difference between
Won't pay for it...and...Can't pay for it.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:52 PM
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14. It's in the small print.
The same small print that says your credit card company
can give you a GUARANTEED 0% on balance transfers for the
life of the loan, or until they decide to change the interest
to 29.9%.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:51 PM
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6. Given the state of Detroit's finances, how he handles his personal finances is big issue...
If he's going to be running for Mayor.

The city is in need of a mayor with real financial smarts. Looks like this guy is lacking.

And he's a city councilman, which is also bad news.

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:53 PM
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7. Quite the verbose headline there, Dr.P.
:rofl:

Did they try to put the whole darn article in the headline?!?!

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:59 PM
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9. It looked like it.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:10 PM
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10. I thought it was only me
or the 4/20 treat I am having :party:



:smoke:



:rofl:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:16 PM
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11. By golly! A whole day dedicated to 4:20?!?1/!(uno)!i!?!
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 04:20 PM by Hugin
What will they be thinking of next! I :lurve: America!

:rofl:

Edit: Fixing punctuation has become a way of life for me.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:53 PM
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8. Something is messed up here
Bought for $225,000, the home nose-dived in value to $100,000, according to Kenyatta. Its manageable $2,600-a-month mortgage soon was about to soar about $1,000.

With a zero down loan at 7% the PI on this house would be $1497/mo so either he had some kind of screwy loan, or it's a 10 year loan. Or the taxes in Detroit are outfuckingrageous, in which case he got what he deserved as a city councilman.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:20 PM
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17. I thought I read the article. Where did it say it was a zero down?
This sounds like a typical 'ARM.' :shrug:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:27 PM
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28. Isn't it true that even if U have a conventional mortgage, when you miss payment(s)
Then they can increase the interest? After all, the interest is based on your status as a bill payer -when your credit rating changes for the worse, your interest rates rise.
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:08 PM
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15. Nothing like leading by example...
His credibility has taken a slight dive.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:46 PM
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20. This experience should resonate with voters---makes him more empathetic to their plight
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:07 AM
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25. He walks away from his obligations
Because he's decided he doesn't want to pay anymore and that makes him "empathetic" to people who are busting their asses to pay their mortgages?

He's nothing more than a scumbag.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:26 PM
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21. The people of Detroit should check his credit as part of the vetting process
Isn't that what happens to us little people when we apply for a job? We have to sign a document that authorizes the prospective employer to check our credit, education, job history, criminal history, urine or hair, and other things I probably left out. Sounds to me like this individual is no longer fit to be mayor because he is obviously irresponsible and an unacceptable risk. Unfortunately for him, walking away from problems isn't a viable strategy when you're a mayor. It's okay though; he can work on repairing his credit, and maybe in a few years he will be fit to be employed in a position of trust again.
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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:35 PM
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22. Then he should walk away from wanting to be mayor of a city in serious financial trouble.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:14 AM
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26. Yep
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