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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:10 PM
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Man Arrested for Criticizing Police in E-Mail to Louisiana Paper
Source: Editor & Publisher/AP

LAFAYETTE, La. The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit on behalf of a Louisiana man who claims he was arrested for criticizing a police chief in an e-mail to a newspaper.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in federal court accuses Mamou police chief Greg Dupuis and several of his officers of violating the civil rights of 52-year-old Bobby Felix Simmons.

In an e-mail he sent to The Ville Platte Gazette last year, Simmons asked why the newspaper hadn't reported on allegations of improper conduct by Dupuis. Simmons was later arrested at his home in Franklin and charged with criminal defamation.

Dupuis denies violating Simmons' civil rights, but the ACLU claims the chief retaliated against their client for exercising his right to free speech.




Read more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003965200
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:13 PM
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1. "criminal defamation" is a legal charge?
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:43 PM
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9. Yes. Defamation can be pursued criminally, civilly, or both.
However most, well damn near all, departments will not pursue the matter criminally. You have a higher burden of proof in criminal court. You also run into nightmare freedom of speech issues. So they will not waste their time or resources on a criminal prosecution for defamation. So this is obviously a vendetta.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:33 PM
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20. yeah, i think the cops will truly regret it before this is over and so
will the city when they pay damages to this man.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:13 PM
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2. "criminal defamation?" How is that remotely constitutional?
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:50 PM
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11. Forget about the first amendment for a second. Think about the Fifth and Due process.
Many times defamation involves false accusations made in public. Like he beats his wife, she supports terrorists, or they molest children. This can be a form of misrepresentation aka fraud. Why shouldn't it be criminally actionable like any other frauds?
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:58 PM
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13. NY Times vs. Sullivan. Public figures must show malice for a civil action
How would a criminal law be constituional?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:08 PM
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14. Are police considered public figures?
I have no idea. A chief might be, as s/he issues press releases. :shrug:
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:16 PM
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15. Thats a judgment call.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:30 PM
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18. I'm gonna say yes they are. I'm taking this from a Maryland case that is very similar.
A Maryland State Police officer pulled a guy over and gave him a ticket. The guy gave the officer the finger. The Officer arrested him for it. Being from the Free State of Maryland. Of Course this guy took this lil traffic incident all the way to the Supreme Court. I kid you not. What SCOTUS found was that the man would have been well with in his rights to give the finger to the President of the United States. Since this was not a protection afforded to the President. The officer had no reasonable right to expect this protection. So in this case SCOTUS is comparing the officer to the President who is definately a public figure. So I would also think they would find that the officer is a public figure. If not they made a bad analogy in that case.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:07 PM
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19. Of course they are. They interact with the public with the purpose
of keeping law and order.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:22 PM
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3. Insane law.
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 06:24 PM by CBGLuthier
and the SC has not ruled it 100% unconstitutional

Louisiana Criminal Defamation
LA R.S. 14:47

Defamation is the malicious publication or expression in any manner, to anyone other than the party defamed, of anything which tends:

(1) To expose any person to hatred, contempt, or ridicule, or to deprive him of the benefit of public confidence or social intercourse; or

(2) To expose the memory of one deceased to hatred, contempt, or ridicule; or

(3) To injure any person, corporation, or association of persons in his or their business or occupation.

Whoever commits the crime of defamation shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.



How this law and the first amendment can coexist is beyond me.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:33 PM
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6. Blowback
How the police will avoid having this blow up in their face is beyond me.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:23 PM
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4. "Criminal defamation?" Isn't that normally called lese majeste? (nt)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:52 PM
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12. Only when you defame the King.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:51 PM
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21. What does Elvis have to do with it?
He was from Tennessee. ;-)
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:27 PM
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5. Wow. Just wow. n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:38 PM
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7. Since when is defamation criminal? Isn't it a civil thing?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:43 PM
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8. I'm thinking the allegations of improper conduct were spot on target. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:22 PM
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16. Jesus Christ!!!
:wow: :wtf:
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:25 PM
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17. How can asking about alledged misconduct defame anyone? "ALLEDGED" N/T
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 07:25 PM by ThirdWorldJohn
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