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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:11 PM
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Honor For Donna Brazile Prompts Archbishop's Boycott
Source: Associated Press

(04-23) 14:01 PDT New Orleans (AP) --

The leader of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans will boycott commencement ceremonies at Xavier University because the institution is honoring Democratic Party strategist Donna Brazile, who supports abortion rights.

Brazile is to speak and receive an honorary degree at the May 9 ceremony at the predominantly black, Catholic university.

Archbishop Alfred Hughes says in a letter to Xavier President Norman Francis he will not participate in the ceremony because of the invitation to Brazile.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/04/23/national/a140156D23.DTL
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:12 PM
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1. The Catholic Church hierarchy is doing its best to make the Church irrelevant.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:48 AM
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17. The Men running that Criminal Organization
Need to have their Leaders learn to keep their zippers up
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:16 PM
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2. the catholic church without Democrats will become EPISCOPAL!!!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:16 PM
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3. God damn the Catholic Church
That is all.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:25 PM
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4. Fine. Let him sleep late.
I have a feeling that anything Donna Brazile would have to tell the graduating
class might be ever so slightly more relevant to them than anything the archbishop
might have to tell them. Let him go talk to a crowd of 70-something true believers.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:29 PM
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5. The man in a dress has his panties in a bunch. n/t
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:33 PM
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6. They continue to irrationally fear the outside world
:crazy:

Ever since the sex scandal cover-ups, they ate up their own seminarian propaganda about a "perfect society". Heaven forbid they take the greater world into consideration. :puke: As long as the Bishops have this irrational fear of the outside world on their two boogyman "issues" (abortion and gay marriage) they will loose another generation and become more irrelevant. The Catholic Church is OF the world and needs to be IN the world and relate to it. Foolishly running away in this protest to not attend only restricts dialog which could mean a good discussion, mutual respect and coming together on common ground. Endless heel-digging in is pointless.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:37 PM
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7. And the situation at Notre Dame is picking up steam re: Obama's scheduled visit n/t
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:53 PM
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8. But I'm sure...
they'd be just fine welcoming war-mongers and torturers. I do despise the Catholic church. (more than most even)
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Constance Craving Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:14 PM
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9. Doesn't he know . . .
that boycotts don't work? ;-)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:16 PM
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10. Why don't they boycott people who bother little boys?

They are shameful.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:51 AM
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18. They can't
They would have to boycott themselves
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:08 PM
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24. You are so right ~ glass houses nt
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:36 PM
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11. They are frightened of losing their perceived power. The Bush regime no longer
around to help their cause..too bad.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:36 PM
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12. Childish.
A protest that accomplishes nothing except making him look like an ass.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:52 PM
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13. So stupid. Brazile did so much after Katrina.
This right wing nutcase will live to regret this. I can hear his voicemail box filling up right now!
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He loved Big Brother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 12:30 AM
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14. Good.
I really can't stand seeing black women bowing down to some misguided white man. Sorry, but I can't. Like when the Pope died and all these African women were in tears. When did he ever have their best interests at heart again? It broke mine to see them idolizing him. As if these any of these higher up Catholic men have the first clue about the lives of black women. Or any woman. Ugh.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:22 AM
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22. This is not only about black women, or even about all women. It is about
the opposition of the so called Catholic church to people who believe in equal rights for all, be it the right of a woman to make choices about her body, the right of gays to marry, etc.

Ultimately, it is also about forcing one particular interpretation of the Bible on everyone in the world via legislation (including amendments to state Constitutions and if necessary, the Constitution of the United States. It is the so-called Catholic church and other religious organizations against all progressives and for perpetual government by neocons.

Inasmuch as almost all Democrats who run for office are pro-choice, telling people to vote only for people who are pro life is almost always code for "Vote for the Republican candidate." Inasmuch as the vast majority of Democrats, male and female, are pro-choice, establishing the principle that pro-choice folk are to be shunned and shamed and denied communion, etc. works against all progressives and for neocons.

To quote from Dennis Kucinich's convention speech, Wake up America. Both men and women who are Democrats need to unite against the breaking down of the wall between church and state begun by the likes of Falwell and Kennedy. No vouchers, no faith based initiatives, etc.

Draw a line in the sand. They have.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:05 AM
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15. Remember when priests had long hair and nuns rode around on motorcycles?
Geez I grew up thinking that was normal. Oh for the good old days. Sigh.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:46 AM
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16. More on Bishop Hughes
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:55 AM
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19. More on this Moran
On April 2, 2009, Hughes "joined a growing chorus of Catholic bishops deploring the University of Notre Dame's decision to award President Barack Obama an honorary doctorate at graduation exercises" in May 2009.<4> The reasons concern Obama's support for abortion rights and other issues viewed as incompatible with the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, with which the University of Notre Dame is affiliated.

A front-page article in the Times-Picayune on 2009 April 17 pictured Hughes and described his support, representing the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops, in support of Senate Bill 115, authored by Danny Martiny, in the Louisiana State Senate. SB 115 would ban mixing of "human and animal cells in a Petri dish" and was thought to be the first bill of its kind, a "pre-emptive strike" against attempts to create hybrid human-ape creatures. In reaction one letter to the editor, naming both Hughes and Martiny, urged that an
unintended consequence of such an unneeded bill would be the hybridization of the human and the jackass, as happens all too frequently in Baton Rouge .

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:37 PM
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25. Still more on this fuckmook
"fuckmook" is a term coined by the late dean of the NOLA blogosphere, H. Ashley Morris, Ph.D. It means anyone who, in Ashley's opinion, acts contrary to the best interests of New Orleans.

Archbishop Hughes is a fuckmook, and also a malaka (blogger Adrastos' favorite putdown), as evidenced herein:

http://adrastos.blog-city.com/malaka_of_the_day_alfred_hughes.htm

I'm not Catholic. I'm a devout atheist who was raised Greek Orthodox, which makes the task I was assigned in the planning of Ashley's funeral rather hilarious. But I digress, the local Archdiocese announced sweeping changes: parish closures, mergers, you name it. Archbishop Alfred Hughes insisted with a straight face that money was not a factor. Yeah, right and I'm the reincarnation of Roberto Clemente...

Of course, Hughes is an accomplished liar. His role in covering up for pedophile priests whilst working in Boston is well documented. LINK. Hughes is a canting hypocrite, a fuckmook and above all else, a malaka. Hughes is a small unimpressive looking man who is capable of large and quite impressive lies. The reason given for the closures, a shortage of priests, is one that could be easily resolved: bring on the women and married men. The church already has married priests, they've allowed Episcopal priests who changed churches to stay married. They're guilty of both hypocrisy and sexism.

Why do I care? For one thing, Dr. A is a lapsed Catholic who retains some affection for the church of her youth, that is, before it became consumed with "social issues." For another, I have friends who attend two of the impacted churches, Our Lady Of Good Counsel and St. Henry's and they are both vibrant congregations that are part of the fabric of our community. St. Henry's is 5 blocks from Adrastos World HQ and it was the first church post-K to host a wedding. It's a shame to see malakas like Archbishop Hughes destroy such a parish.

For more on this douchebaggery and fuckmookery check out Mark Folse and this video of Poppy Z Brite. And Jeffrey points out that the front page of the Picayune has a pictorial diagram that resembles a bingo card....


http://adrastos.blog-city.com/archbishop_hughes_revisited_.htm

Archbishop Alfred Hughes is a little man with a narrow mind who unfortunately wields power and influence in New Orleans. Since, I'm not a Catholic I prefer to ignore Archbishop Pipsqueak but he's back in the news. First, the local parishes that he's attempting to close have delivered their appeals to the Vatican where other narrow minded little men in cassocks will probably rule against them. LINK.

Two of my neighbors have been very active in the effort to save St. Henry's and they dropped by the shop on Sunday. They had gone to Palm Sunday mass at the Cathedral clad in Save St. Henry shirts and toting signs, which were discreetly waved at Mr. Hughes. The pipsqueak averted his eyes and pretended not to notice them. He's above dealing with his flock except when shearing them, after all.

Mr friend CH told me that one of his compatriots had worn a Notre Dame cap, which brings me back to the Archbishop. Hughes is one of the conservative Catholic prelates who wants Notre Dame University to withdraw its invitation to President Obama to speak at commencement. LINK. The hierarchy is critical of "cafeteria Catholics" but they have their own tendency to pick and choose among Church principles. The Church is opposed to the death penalty but, as far as I know, has never sanctioned any politician for supporting capital punishment but if one is pro-choice they lower the ecclesiastical boom. Ain't inconsistency grand or is that maddening? These guys really put the prick in bishopric...

Of course, what can you expect from a guy who is a dead ringer for Les Nessman from WKRP In Cincinnati?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:07 AM
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20. Good ole AP. Does it EVER use the term "right to choose?"
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:19 AM
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21. I'll boycott the Archbishop because I oppose child molestation. nt
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:39 AM
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23. I grew up listening to progressive priests in the 70's
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 08:41 AM by corpseratemedia
who were liberation theologists

then came along pope john paul the first, who was like them, and who immediately died.

then we got pope john paul the second, and it went downhill from there

excerpt from:http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/621/35060

snip< ...One of his great political alliances was with US President Ronald Reagan. In 1980 the gang that organized the Reagan for the presidency movement met in Santa Fe for a conference and issued a statement saying: “US foreign policy should begin to confront liberation theology (and not just react to it after the fact). Unfortunately Marxist-Leninist forces have used the church as a political weapon against private ownership and the capitalism system of production, infiltrating the religious community with ideas that are more communist than Christian.”

Reagan, as president, quickly moved to form a united front with John Paul II against liberation theology. The pope fought the theology while the Reagan administration and its Latin American allies murdered the liberationists.

Among the fallen was El Salvador's Archbishop Oscar Romero, murdered in 1980 by a right-wing death squad while saying mass. The Arena party, the death squads' legal face, sent a delegation to the Vatican weeks before the assassination protesting Romero's public statements in defense of the poor. >snip


liberation theology was one of the few shining spots on the church's record of centuries, repression, hypocrisy, persecution and torture, and they had to make themselves a tool for the oligarchs yet again

as a person of duel religious backgrounds, I'm glad i have an alternative to guilt and criminality and projection and self-hate.

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