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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 02:47 PM
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Obama touts plan to change college loan system
Source: AP

President Barack Obama on Friday renewed his call for the government to stop backing private loans to college students and replace them with direct financial aid to young people.

Obama said the surest test for success in the challenging economy is a college degree or other training, yet access to higher education continues to shrink as costs rise. To reverse that, the president repeated his campaign proposal that would eliminate the Federal Family Education Loan program that costs taxpayers $15 million each day.

The administration has pushed for federal financial aid to go directly to students, not to banks that lend money to students. Obama said he wants to eliminate the "middle men" lenders that he says add inefficiency to the system -- a move he said could open classrooms to 8.5 million more students.
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Obama has claimed that the change would save at least $48 billion over the next 10 years -- money that could be funneled to student aid. But Republicans are concerned about the costs of that and even some Democratic lawmakers oppose the switch.
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Lenders are also fiercely lobbying against the proposal, which would end a historically lucrative business.

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I assume the Blue Dogs will try to block this, and Reid will cave again.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 02:50 PM
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1. And what about those already up to their ears in debt from these loans?
The so-called "low-interest" loans with outrageous points?
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 02:59 PM
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3. To be fair ..a portion of those current loans should be forgiven or the interest rate
should be lowered. The banks could receive the difference between the original rate and the new lower rate.Banks complain about losing money on these loan proposals but never mind giving their CEO's and other exec's millions in bonuses.That's OK...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:02 PM
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5. how about instead offering to refinance the loans directly- let the students prepay
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 03:03 PM by hedgehog
the balance and take out a government loan at a lower rate!
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:04 PM
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6. See if you qualify for
Income-Contingent Repayment, or Income-Based Repayment. The more you make, the more you pay, and if you make bupkis, there's forgiveness after 25 years,
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 02:53 PM
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2. If the money saved....
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 02:56 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...doesn't go to new grants-in-aid, but instead to underwrite further loans, then the problem is ameliorated, it isn't any closer to getting solved.

The elephant in the room is is the cost of post-secondary education.

The student-aid system has been able to cope with the much-higher-than-inflation growth in the cost of post-secondary education by changing the balance between grants and loans in a typical student's aid package. In the late 70's and early '80's, it was 70/30 grants/loans. Today, it's the inverse.

However, this shift from grants to loans is a one-time adjustment -- it's analogous to the growth in household income due to women's increased participation in the workforce, or the one-time leveling off you saw in health costs in the late '80's and early '90's from HMO's and the like. You can't use it to cover the rising costs a second time.

Although direct lending will, due to the reduction in overhead, make it possible to slow the closing-off of a university education, the basic dynamic remains the same.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:27 PM
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11. Look for the costs to increase with a push to have more students going to college.
Simple economics - demand goes up, price goes up.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:41 PM
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18. Or the schools will just hire more professors and rates will stay the same.
Supply for schooling doesn't need to be limited and shouldn't.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:39 PM
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19. At least this is an attempt at reform.
I agree it's not enough, but it's not a bad start.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:01 PM
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4. Very good!
Now this is progress!
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:16 PM
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7. I used to work for one of these "non-profit" loan guarantors
I was always wondering how it was they seemed to have so much money. Among other things, I wrote code to pull credit reports, keep track of litigation steps for the lawyers, and calculate payment plans extending out umpteen zillion years. This measure would sink this company, and I wouldn't mind a bit.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:16 PM
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8. banks lobbying with taxpayer dollars, no doubt.
the irony.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:25 PM
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9. Can we please rush this through?
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:28 PM
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10. I listened to this speech
He really talked tough about the banks that make money on subsidized loans where the taxpayer assumes all the risk. I liked it.

Funny thing is, his whole "we don't need the special-interest middlemen" argument applies even moreso to health care.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:05 PM
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12. This is what is needed if we are going to keep up with other first world nations.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:10 PM
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13. Couldn't come at a better time.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:37 PM
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14. Clinton did the exact same thing and it was one of the very first things Bush* changed.
Bankers have to have their fingers in the pie..
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:11 PM
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15. Funds will be scarce for all such programs so I hope diploma mills are weeded out and other abuses
stopped so qualified, deserving students can receive maximum financial aid.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:12 PM
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16. K & R. n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:39 PM
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17. This is very good! (nt)
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