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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:28 PM
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McCain defends Napolitano, insists 9/11 perpetrators came from Canada
Source: CBC

Arizona Senator John McCain is the latest high-profile politician to repeat the diehard American falsehood that the Sept. 11, 2001, attackers entered the United States through Canada.

Just days after Janet Napolitano, the U.S. homeland security secretary, sparked a diplomatic kerfuffle by suggesting the perpetrators took a Canadian route to the U.S. eight years ago, McCain defended her by saying that, in fact, the former Arizona governor was correct.

"Well, some of the 9/11 hijackers did come through Canada, as you know," McCain, last year's Republican presidential candidate, said on Fox News on Friday.

The Arizona senator's remarks prompted the Canadian embassy to immediately reissue remarks made Tuesday by Ambassador Michael Wilson, who reminded Americans once again that none of the attackers came to the U.S. via Canada.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/24/mccain-border-canada-911.html
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:29 PM
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1. i thought they did come through Canada, either way, didn't they come legally ?
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:34 PM
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3. From the same article:
"As the 9/11 Commission reported in July 2004, all of the 9/11 terrorists arrived in the U.S. from outside North America. They flew to major U.S. airports. They entered the U.S. with documents issued to them by the U.S. government. No 9/11 terrorists came from Canada."
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:52 PM
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16. See - propaganda works - this was debunked years ago, but they still got you
.
.
.

and 100's of millions more that trusted their government/media lies

and still are.

nothing personal,

but the USAmericans lack of real knowledge is why the World is in such a dangerous state.

It is the USA that is making war all over the globe -

USA has its bases all over the globe, and they are not for peace

they are for war, and domination

your tax dollars at work . . .

(sigh)

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:30 PM
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18. Huh.
I thought they came through Canada, too, and had no memory of where I got that impression.

Scary.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:45 PM
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21. Oh . . . I so agree --- !!!!
"It is the USA that is making war all over the globe -

USA has its bases all over the globe, and they are not for peace

they are for war, and domination

your tax dollars at work . . . "


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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:31 PM
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2. Sorry McCain and Napolitano but I believe that the 911 Perps entered thru the White House actually.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:57 PM
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4. Well not "through" the White House exactly but
maybe through the Pentagon???

(By The New York Times), WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 -- Three of the men identified as the hijackers in the attacks on Tuesday have the same names as alumni of American military schools, the authorities said today. The men were identified as Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz al-Omari and Saeed al-Ghamdi.
The Defense Department said Mr. Atta had gone to the International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama; Mr. al-Omari to the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas; and Mr. al-Ghamdi to the Defense Language Institute at the Presidio in Monterey, Calif.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/16/us/after-attacks-missed-cues-saudi-may-have-been-suspected-error-officials-say.html
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:01 PM
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5. I was thinking more like a Conspiracy Theory (which I believe in) and ...
Cheney was more the Perp than were middle eastern people.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:13 PM
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7. Read you loud and clear.n/t
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:04 PM
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11. I still don't understand how they could be identified so quickly.

The planes exploded,burned and finally the towers collapsed,burying everything under tons of

debris.:shrug:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:48 PM
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23. ...but remember that passport floating out . . . and then the car with all the documents found? . .
sound familiar?

Sounds like all the other patsy's who were caught immediately after
JFK, RFK, MLK, Jr., Gov. Wallace ---

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:51 AM
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30. As we know, all people with passports fly planes into buildings.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:47 PM
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22. "Through the White House, actually" . . . YES!!!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:23 AM
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29. Good one!
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:09 PM
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6. Fucking Liars!
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:23 PM
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8. What is the agenda behind these lies?
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theMark Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:34 PM
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9. Agenda?
I, too, used to believe there was always an agenda for their lies.

Anymore, I think they lie just to keep in practice.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:57 PM
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10. Republicons & falsehoods: a constant
Ptoooey on Republicons and their disdain for truth and morality.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:55 PM
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17. So what exactly is Janet Napolitano?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:18 PM
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35. A fucking liar.
She needs to go, because right now, she's doing a bang-up job at pissing off Canada.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:29 PM
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36. You must have the same feelings about Obama
Because she reflects his views on the matter.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:04 PM
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12. Ha Ha Ha
I couldn't read a better story on things coming home to roost.

Harper is now the PM and his people, Mr. Day, aka Doris, was one of the people pushing that idea.

So now guys. Get with your con buddies. They are the leaders and you are the followers.

Former U.S. spy linked 9/11 terrorists to Canada
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/623559

My! How the "world turns."
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:49 PM
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15. Really interesting article. Thanks for posting.
Have you posted it as a new thread elsewhere on DU? If not, you should.

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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:19 AM
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28. No
I haven't Tuvor.

If you like it you can have it. Take it and run.

If you can get some MP's to stand up in parliament and bring up this issue it would be well worth it.

Especially since we had the Cons falling over everybody to be Bush's best friend.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:18 AM
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34. Done. Thanks again.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:42 PM
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20. A hahahahhahaha
I never heard that story before.

I'd like to see Doris stand up on his hind legs in Question Period to answer for THIS!

:rofl:
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:31 PM
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27. the “urban myth” that Canada was the route for the 9/11
While it’s true that the 9/11 Commission found that none of the 19 hijackers entered the United States through Canada, its other findings don’t let Canada off the hook so easily. That’s why you’ll never hear the Canadian Ambassador talking about Mohamedou Ould Slahi, a Mauritanian immigrant to Canada, and Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen originally from Tunisia, both of whom the Commission identified as having just missed out on starring roles as hijackers on September 11.

Mohamedou Ould Slahi, who had come to Canada in 1998, stayed in Montreal’s Assuna Mosque where he sometimes led prayers. After his associate Ahmed Ressam was captured on the eve of the Millennium trying to sneak across the Canadian border with a trunkload of dynamite, Slahi managed to elude Canadian authorities and returned to Germany. According to the 9/11 Commission, Slahi recruited two of the 9/11 pilots (pp.165-6): Marwan al-Shehhi, the pilot of UA Flight 175, which crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center; and Ziad Jarrah, the pilot of UA 93, which went down in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. He also collaborated closely with Mohammed Atta, who he knew from his university days in Germany. Slahi, who is now being held in Guantanamo, may not have been exactly one of the 19 hijackers, but he was the next closest thing.

Abderraouf Jdey, who immigrated to Canada in 1991 and became a citizen in 1995, also lived in Montreal. The 9/11 Commission (p.527) speculates that Jdey was initially part of 9/11 team of hijackers, but that he may have been held back for a second wave of attacks or perhaps he pulled out himself while in Canada in the summer of 2001. Although his martyrdom video was found in the rubble of a Mohammed Atef’s bombed-out house near Kabul, Jdey remains on the FBI’s Terrorist Watch List and earlier in April a $5 million reward was offered for information. If he is indeed alive, the Canadian Government has never tried to remove his citizenship, or that of many other Islamic terrorists for that matter, including, by the way, Fateh Kamal, the Montreal cell’s “father” who allegedly recruited Ahmed Ressam and was allowed back in Canada earlier this year after having served a sentence on terrorism-related charges in France.

The key supporting role of Slahi and Jdey in the September 11 terrorists attacks has never been acknowledged by the Canadian Government. The official line is still that Canada is getting a bum rap in the United States for being too soft on potential terrorists. It makes one wonder if anybody in the Canadian Government actually read the 9/11 Commission report.

http://global-economics.ca/911hijackers.htm
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:10 PM
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13. Another good reason to be relieved...
that this nut didn't make it to the White House.

What's his problem with Canada anyway ?
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:45 PM
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14. Most had Saudi passports...
And they all had student visas which had long expired. The others had Yemeni passports. In any case, they didn't need to come in through Canada or Mexico. They flew into our airports directly from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. But by next week no doubt the CIA will have uncovered documents showing they came in through Canada. Remember the CIA also uncovered documents showing Iraq had plans for a nuclear weapon. The CIA of course didn't notice the plans were in Farsi. Meaning they came from Iran. The documents they are still uncovering showing Iran has plans for a nuclear weapon probably will be in Arabic. It's okay. Spies speak and write many languages. Of course they may just recycle the documents and hope no one notices they are the same documents.

About the only legitimate intelligence the CIA has gathered in the past ten years seems to be the intelligence about planned hijackings in 2001 which they turned over to the White House. And when the White House did nothing, the CIA did nothing. But we must be careful with the CIA. After all, they keep us safe from the terrorists. Right?

And of course the problem of terrorists coming into our country from Canada will be solved if Canada just goes ahead and joins the United States and Mexico in the North American Union. That is probably what is behind this latest propaganda. And please make note that both a Democrat and a Republican are promoting it. And I will make bet both will promote the North American Union.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:36 PM
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19. Asshole. We've been fighting these lies since 9/11
Where is his PROOF that the hijackers came through Canada?

I remember that HOURS after 9/11, there were reports that they came into the US on "a ferry from Nova Scotia".

Total bullshit, of course. But that hasn't stopped these fucks from repeating it OVER and OVER and OVER again.

We SHOULD make this an international incident, but I doubt that Harper has the stones to stand up to a Republican.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:41 PM
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25. Harper's stones, small as they are, belong to the PNAC gang - Chretien had "stones"
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basically told Bush to go fuck himself with his illegal invasion of Iraq

Thank you Jean Chretien :thumbsup:

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:02 PM
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26. Indeed.
Thanks, Jean! For a brief moment, he reminded me of Trudeau.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:49 PM
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24. McCain hung around with Palin too long. The fairy dust is rubbing off.
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 10:23 PM by Vidar
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:54 AM
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31. I had a nightmare that this arrogant arse became President. Thank God I woke up.
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 02:09 AM
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32. Yes, yes, you woke up screaming and trembling, sheets soaked in sweat...
The room closing in around you, air refusing to enter your lungs...

Oh jeeze, if McCain had become... no, no, thank god, thank Allah, thank Buddah, thank all the powers and beings...

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:11 AM
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33. Credit where credit's due
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 05:11 AM by MetaTrope
1986 - Al-Qaeda Figures Establish First US Base in Arizona

In 1986, Maktab al-Khidamat (a.k.a. Al-Kifah), the precursor organization to al-Qaeda, opens its first branch in the US at the Islamic Center of Tucson, in Tucson, Arizona. Counterterrorism expert Rita Katz will later call the Islamic Center, “basically, the first cell of al-Qaeda in the United States; that is where it all started.” The organization’s journal, Al Jihad (Holy War), is initially distributed in the US from there. Other branches around the US soon follow (see 1985-1989). (New York Times, 6/19/2002)


July 10, 2001 - FBI Agent Sends Memo Warning that Unusual Number of Muslim Extremists Are Learning to Fly in Arizona

Phoenix, Arizona, FBI agent Ken Williams sends a memorandum warning about suspicious activities involving a group of Middle Eastern men taking flight training lessons in Arizona. The memo is titled: “Zakaria Mustapha Soubra; IT-OTHER (Islamic Army of the Caucasus),” because it focuses on Zakaria Soubra, a Lebanese flight student in Prescott, Arizona, and his connection with a terror group in Chechnya that has ties to al-Qaeda. It is subtitled: “Osama bin Laden and Al-Muhjiroun supporters attending civil aviation universities/colleges in Arizona.” (Fortune, 5/22/2002; Arizona Republic, 7/24/2003)


Nice work there, Arizona senator McCain.
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