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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:44 PM
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Ex-soldier bragged about Iraqi rape, deaths: lawyer
Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/gc05/idUKTRE53R07N20090428

A former U.S. soldier on trial in the gang rape of an Iraqi girl and the murder of her and her family in the war zone in 2006 was caught in a "perfect storm of insanity," his lawyer told a jury on Monday.

But government prosecutors in the same courtroom said former Private 1st Class Steven Green, alleged ringleader of the slayings, was only interested in killing Iraqis "nonstop" and bragged during a barbecue celebration later that what he had done was "awesome."
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After the crime, Skaret said, the men celebrated with a barbecue, and Green was said to have commented "that was awesome." He also told an Army investigator the day after, "I did that. I killed them," Skaret said.

The family was chosen because the soldiers viewed them as an easy target, prosecutors have said....



Read more: Reuters



"Context" does not excuse this atrocity. Seems like they are just trying to get him not the death penalty here. One of Abeer's brothers testified yesterday. I want his superiors held responsible also. No excuses.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iYeOUInDxFuT4T8CsYG9-_KfQ9pgD97R4QE01
An ex-soldier charged with raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and slaying her family set the girl's body ablaze after shooting her several times, prosecutors said Monday during opening statements at his federal trial.

Steven Dale Green, 23, of Midland, Texas, faces more than a dozen charges, including sexual assault and four counts of murder, stemming from the March 2006 attack in Iraq's so-called "Triangle of Death." After he shot the girl in the face several times, Green used kerosene to set fire to her body, Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Skaret said. "They left behind the carnage of all carnage," Skaret said of Green and other soldiers accused in the March 12, 2006, attack.

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Later Monday, jurors heard two relatives testify about the carnage inside the victims' home. They also were shown photographs of the teen's burned body.

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Later, Green talked about the killings to superior officers, other soldiers and even civilian friends, Skaret said. In Green's defense, attorney Patrick Bouldin painted a picture of young soldiers in harsh wartime conditions, lacking leadership and receiving little help from the Army to deal with the loss of friends. He said Green lost five colleagues in combat prior to the attack. A federal public defender, Bouldin showed jurors a videotape of Green speaking at a memorial service for two slain sergeants. He said soldiers had lost so many friends and leaders they could no longer perform their duties.

"Context," Bouldin said. "You've got to understand the context."...



There has been arguments that he should be tried NOT in a civilian court, here is why...
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090426/NEWS01/904260415/1008/NEWS01/Prosecutors+want+arguments+barred+in+ex-soldier+s+trial
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But lawyers for Green, who goes on trial tomorrow in Paducah, said the jury should know that he would have faced lesser sentences in a court-martial and that he would have been eligible for parole....


RIP Abeer, Hadeel, Fakhria, Qaseem


http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090427/NEWS01/904280301/1008/Trial+begins+in+former+soldier+s+murder+trial
A federal prosecutor today told a jury that the government will prove that former soldier Steven Green raped a 14-year-old girl and then murdered her and her family “not in the fog of war, but in cold blood.”

In an opening statement in a trial that is expected to last three to five weeks, Justice Department lawyer Brian Skaret said the government will present at least five witnesses who say Green bragged about the crimes, including one who says Green told his fellow soldiers that it was “awesome.”

In his hour-long opening remarks, Green’ s co-counsel didn’t dispute his role in the crimes or that they were a “horrible tragedy” for the family of Abeer Al-Janabi, the girl who was raped and shot in the face before her body was set afire.

But federal public defender Patrick Bouldin asked the jury to consider the context for that tragedy — what he called “a perfect storm of craziness” in which four of Green’s fellow soldiers, including three of his leaders, were murdered in 12 days....


http://www.theleafchronicle.com/article/20090428/NEWS01/90428019
A former U.S. Army soldier accused of raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and slaying her family was upset after losing several friends in combat but didn't appear to struggle more than anyone else in his unit, one of his commanding officers testified.

Steven Dale Green, 23, of Midland, Texas, has pleaded not guilty to more than a dozen charges, including sexual assault and four counts of murder, stemming from the March 2006 attack in Iraq's so-called "Triangle of Death." He is being tried in federal court in connection with the girl's rape and killing and the deaths of her mother, father and a 6-year-old sister.

Col. Todd Ebel told jurors on Monday, the opening day of trial, that he spoke with Green in December 2005 about losing soldiers to enemy attacks. But, Ebel said, beyond frustration, the private first class with the 101st Airborne Division didn't appear unfit to remain in the Army....


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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:57 PM
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1. I`m in tears
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:01 PM
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2. This is horrible
Words can't begin to describe how angry this makes me. I hope he suffers for the rest of his life and in the next.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:06 PM
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3. Ahem......
Accused rapist/murderer. Everybody is innocent in the eyes of the law until found guilty.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:10 PM
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4. yeah...
...in his own words, he is guilty.

I understand what you are saying, but sometimes the evidence is what it is.

This is a guy that would have been pulling this kind of evil shit anywhere he went. He is a sociopath (Relax, I am a certified Internet Psychiatrist - got my P.H.D at the Bill Frist School of Internet Medicine) that will need to be put down.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:14 PM
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5. of course, that is why the articles say "accused"
just because he bragged he did it doesn't mean he is guilty. This is why they are having a trial rather than just handing him over to the family.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:37 PM
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:44 PM
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11. There were 2 sons who weren't home. Also there are other relatives
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 03:55 PM by uppityperson
who are still alive and in the area. Some of them are in the USA for the trial, one of the sons testified yesterday.

I'd advise you change your personal attack there. Not only are you wrong in the details, but why insult me? I am the one who got all the articles together and have posted them in several forums and have been following this for yrs.

Edited to add picture of brothers...

Abeer’s younger brothers Ahmed and Mohammed in Mahmudiya - 4 months after the killings.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:51 PM
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13. Here is an article about family left alive, brother and cousin, picture of brothers...
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 03:55 PM by uppityperson
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090428/NEWS01/904280354/Trial+opens+for+ex-soldier+in+Iraqi+family+s+deaths
A cousin who found the burning bodies of rape victim Abeer Al-Janabi and her slain family south of Bagdad in March 2006 testified yesterday that he never suspected American soldiers were responsible.

"I thought it had to be terrorists," Abu Farras testified in U.S. District Court on the first day of the capital murder trial of former Army soldier Steven Dale Green. "This was a massacre, not a crime. I thought no American would do such a thing."

Abeer's brother, 15-year-old Mohammed Al-Janabi, who was left an orphan by the murders, testified that when he came home from school on March 12, 2006, he didn't know the smoke coming from his family's home was from his sister's body, which had been set ablaze....



Abeer’s younger brothers Ahmed and Mohammed in Mahmudiya - 4 months after the killings.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:40 PM
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18. I don't understand your animosity for the poster. Can you explain please? nm
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:22 PM
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6.  Green’ s co-counsel didn’t dispute his role in the crimes
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:28 PM
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7. Strap this fucker to the hot seat and flip the switch.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:49 PM
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12. NO
Strap the f...er who sent them there. He should be the one on trial and he should be facing the max penalty.
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:45 PM
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19. x2
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:29 PM
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8. Note the Courier-Journal said
four of his fellow soldiers were "murdered" whereas the other sources quoted refer to combat and enemy attackers. Wonder exactly what was said in court.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:39 PM
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10. I think it's amazing that we even know about it.
To suggest that it is beyond the ability of the military to keep this sort of thing a secret, is to allow that the value of an Iraqi life far exceeds the MSRP during the time in question.

Surely the defense is a sound one, where the enemy is ill-defined we ask a great deal of young people taken into the military through a system which seems to do a good job of keeping most of the crazies out, but not all.

I have to believe that this sort of thing has happened in every war, and the details lost in our skim of those events in history class. We need to be careful not to mentally transform a crime which happens in war to a war that is a crime.

The Union Army of the United States committed many horrific acts, with the specific intent and success bordering on physical and cultural genocide. Was the Union cause wrong because of these acts? For it's part, the South probably did as well, but since they lost, no one cares.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:57 PM
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14. rape is a crime. Period.
murder is a crime. Period.

just because one person bows to the east to pray and the other bows to the west to pray doesn't negate the fact that rape and murder are crimes. Raping a young girl, no matter what country she is from or what religion she is, is a hideous crime. Murdering her family to leave none to reproach them is a crime, too.

that it happens in every war is non sequitur. It happened in this instance and it's being addressed, as it should.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:10 PM
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16. And your response is to my post?
The point of my post is that the fact that this is being prosecuted is evidence of the integrity of the military, and not a condemnation of it.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:00 PM
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15. We should have given him over to the Iraqis.
After all, didn't we make sure that they have a working, fair justice system?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:18 PM
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17. scraping the bottom of the barrel for recruits
Green is another Eric Harris. How many of guys like them are being kicked out of the military to join the civilian sector, trained, armed and dangerous, now that recruitment is up due to the recession/depression?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:52 PM
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20. And it was Cheney/Bush's policy of legitimizing torture, which ultimately led to this atrocity.
The torture led to false witness, the false witness led to a war based on lies and the war based on lies led to this rape and murder.

Thanks for the thread, uppityperson.
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:43 PM
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21. The Electric Chair
needs to come out of retirement for one last whirl.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:14 PM
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22. There isn't a punishment severe enough for this monster.
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cambie Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:45 PM
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23. Signing on the line
offers opportunities to do things that could not be imagined back home. It doesn't say that on the form but we all know it. Usually no one talks. A "perfect storm of craziness" is sending a hoard of soldiers to attack a blameless country, a crime that contains all the others.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:22 AM
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24. You honor Abeer and her family
Thank you.

As if the crimes against Abeer and her family were not horrific enough, it should be remembered that it is widely suspected that it was these crimes that lead to the capture, torture, and hideous murder of 3 GIs in retaliation.


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