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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:07 PM
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Kenyan women's group tells men: Make war? No love
Source: SFGate

Thousands of Kenyan women vowed Wednesday to begin a weeklong sex strike to try to protest their country's bickering leadership, which they say threatens to revive the bloody chaos that convulsed the African country last year.

Leaders from Kenya's largest and oldest group dedicated to women's rights, the Women's Development Organization, said they hope the boycott will persuade men to pressure the government to make peace.

Eleven women's groups are participating in the strike. The groups have also called on the wives of President Mwai Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga to abstain. It was not clear how either wife responded to the request.

"We have looked at all issues which can bring people to talk and we have seen that sex is the answer," said Rukia Subow, chairman of the Women's Development Organization. "It does not know tribe, it does not have a (political) party and it happens in the lowest households."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/04/29/international/i084758D26.DTL
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:09 PM
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1. Sounds like a Greek play
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 04:10 PM by TechBear_Seattle
I don't recall the name, though. Lysistrada?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:10 PM
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2. Lysistrata
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:22 PM
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5. Thanks! The Wikipedia gives an outline of the plot
Lysistrata

I think it would be worth finding an annotated translation, it sounds entertaining. :toast:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:05 PM
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24. Also Ecclesiazusae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/eccles.html

Although that one is probably more suited to the freepers, as it pretty much paints women as overly-democratic socialists. But it is also a tacit nod to the potential power of women (and perhaps the fear of that power it when women are repressed). The use of sex as a political instrument is again humorously explored.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:10 PM
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3. Lysistrata lives!
I always thought this was a vastly overdue tactic...!


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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:11 PM
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17. LOL - I swear I hadn't looked at the responses when I made mine,
below.

Great minds, I guess!

:toast:
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:11 PM
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4. Someone's been reading "Lysistrata"
You go, girls.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:41 PM
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6. What! Did they all read Lysistrata?
Shades of Aristophanes...

Good for them!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:46 PM
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7. Not fair.
Almost everyone here got here first and used the same material I was gonna use. I was going to say "Shades of Aristophanes!" Then I was going to mention "Lysistrata" but now it's not necessary.

I'm not necessary.

So it goes...
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:16 PM
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11. Wait a minute -- yours was the first mention of "Aristophanes" in this thread!
Extra points for naming the author, yes?

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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:43 PM
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13. No, ananda (post #6) invoked that name just before I did.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:08 PM
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15. Ah. Yes she did. Serves me right for not reading post #6.
On the other hand, maybe you can get an honorable mention by dropping Euripides'name?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:03 AM
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19. But YOU just mentioned Euripides' name...
Which reminds me of the old joke -- a scene in a Greek tailor shop.

Customer hands tailor a pair of trousers.
Tailor: Euripides?
Customer: Yes. Eumenides?

Uh! Oh! Here comes my bus. Gotta run now. Ta Ta.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:40 PM
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23. You see? You have earned all your missed points back...
...with that joke...!
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:44 PM
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25. First heard that joke
told to us by our foreign language teacher in 1962. Its been around for a lot longer than that I suspect.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 04:55 AM
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27. How would Euripides be relevant to a thread about women withholding sex from warriors, though?
Edited on Fri May-01-09 04:58 AM by No Elephants
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 05:59 PM
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8. so how would this work in a country or state where gay marriage is legal? . . .
just wonderin' . . . :shrug:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:06 PM
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9. Well nothing else has worked,,maybe this would..
You don't see large armies of women marching off to rape and pillage and murder people because someone tells them too.
Maybe its time for women to rule the world..the guys have made a big mess so far. :)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 05:03 AM
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28. Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi and Margaret Thatcher were not males. Just sayin'.
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jkappy Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:10 PM
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10. reinforces woman=sex (reminds one of terrible '60s slogan that
"women say yes to men who say no" (anti-war)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:18 PM
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12. Bingo (nm)
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:50 PM
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18. Sex sells.
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 07:50 PM by Dr Fate
Men think of sex a lot-usually at the same time they are thinking about women.

For better or for worse-I don't see that changing.

I hope their sex strike works. Hit 'em where it hurts, in other words.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:01 PM
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14. All women need to take this path. The Greeks knew what they were talking about.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 04:54 AM
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26. I take it you are male.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:10 PM
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16. Lysistrata lives! nt
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:57 AM
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20. Great idea but I don't think it will work
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:08 AM
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21. party pooper
sarcasm
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:35 AM
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22. If a man is so violent that he'll beat someone bloody, why would he respect a woman's demands?
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here: A man comes home after looting and street fights, yet accepts his wife's refusal to have sex, instead of resorting to more violence?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:51 AM
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29. Kenyan women call for sex boycott
Source: Financial Times

Kenyan women's organisations have called for a national sex boycott to force feuding male politicians in the coalition government to resolve differences.

The women said they were prepared to pay prostitutes to withhold their services for a week to make the campaign more effective. . . The women have sent emissaries to the wives of both men to encourage them to join the boycott

. . .

Kenya was gripped by violent ethnic protests that almost pitched the country into civil war and resulted in the deaths of some 1,500 people in the aftermath of disputed elections. The coalition government formed to end the crisis has been beset by corruption scandals and internal feuding even as 10m Kenyans are threatened by starvation.


"This is a call to mass action to protest poor leadership," said Ms Patricia Nyaundi, executive director of the women's organisation, FIDA. "The other option was to take to the streets with placards but we would have been clobbered by the police. So this is a protest from the safety of our homes."

Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/94e5a466-35e7-11de-a997-00144feabdc0.html




Sounds like a protest which could get results.
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Doctor Cynic Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:51 AM
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30. So what happens when the women are getting tired of boycotting?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:51 AM
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31. It's been thought of before...
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:51 AM
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32. considering how often women are raped in africa
i doubt this will do any good.
a sex boycott only works when men, in general, won't take the alternative route - which from reports, is disturbingly common.

i hope it does good tho.
good on em for trying, one way or another!
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