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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:54 PM
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Muslim Youssouf Fofana defies court over torture and murder of Jew
Source: timesonline


A self-proclaimed Muslim barbarian shouted his contempt for his judges yesterday at the start of his trial for the torture and murder of a young Jewish man.

Youssouf Fofana, 28, who led a loose-knit gang of youths from an immigrant housing estate, swaggered into court and shouted “Allah will conquer” as the court began hearing a case into a killing that horrified France and the world Jewish community in 2006.

Mr Fofana and most of his 26 alleged accomplices have admitted their roles in the kidnapping of Ilan Halimi, 23, an assistant in a Paris telephone shop, who was held for ransom for 24 days in the suburb of Bagneux. Mr Fofana, whose parents came to France from Ivory Coast, denies killing the victim, who was tied up in a cellar and tortured with acid, cigarettes and knives. He died in an ambulance after Mr Fofana dumped him by a railway line and allegedly set him alight.

The crime symbolised the casual and violent anti-Semitic culture among the young on the immigrant estates. It shocked France because many residents, including parents of gang members, were alleged to have been aware that Mr Halimi was being held. Some allegedly took turns in guarding the captive for a few euros. Half the defendants, mainly teenagers at the time, face charges of failing to render assistance or alert police.

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Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6194815.ece
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:57 PM
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1. what's a muslim barbarian?
is that like a viking?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:00 PM
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2. no,it's the gang name. n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:14 PM
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3. ? - nt
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:02 PM
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6. It means no text, the whole post is in the title line. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:46 PM
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8. Actually, it's an oxymoron.
But this idiot doesn't know that.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:44 PM
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15. are you actually saying that Muslim = barbarian?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:10 AM
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20. I think he's saying the opposite - that you can't be both a Muslim and a barbarian-
but that the murderer is warped and stupid enough to believe otherwise. And also warped enough to *want* to be seen as a barbarian, and intimidate others.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 02:58 PM
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21. Oxymoron: contradiction in terms.
As in military intelligence.

Get a dictionary.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:40 PM
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4. What a horrible person.
Toss him in jail and throw away the key.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:44 PM
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5. In the old days...
he would have gotten a nice sharp blade right through his neck. But we are much to civilized now for such punishments :sarcasm:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:06 PM
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7. And people still refuse to give the DP to pieces of shit like him.
:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:25 AM
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9. there is no D/P in France
and I believe in pieces of shit like this one should not be executed. It's not about him, or any individual so much as it's about the system, the state and the culture.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:34 PM
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13. This is an accepted practice in the Ivory Coast?
People go around killing other people because they're Jews? Is he an innocent victim of a bad childhood? :cry:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:43 PM
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14. huh? I have no idea what you're talking about. This happened in France
and it's clearly not an accepted practice there, but nor is the DP. In fact, it's not an accepted practice in Europe, period.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:20 PM
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16. So, French culture is to blame, then?
The murderer's family is from the Ivory Coast. You said it had something to do with the culture.
Which culture are you talking about?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:28 PM
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17. no. I said that the issue about the D/P is one about
the society more then the individual criminal, whoever he or she might be, and whatever he or she might have done. The primary reason that I am so strongly against the D/P is that I believe it says something very, very negative about the society and culture in which it is practice.

I said nothing about why this repulsive character committed such a heinous crime.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:54 AM
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10. RIP Ilan Halimi
:(


Fofana, have fun in HELL, fucking SOB!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:49 PM
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11. Can't say this is surprising.
Anti-Semitism in Europe is as strong as it ever was.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 05:49 PM
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12. hardly. that it exists is certainly not arguable
but it's hardly as bad as it once was.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:57 AM
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18. This guy was an immigrant.
So he hardly can be used as a representative sample.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:08 AM
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19. Not 'as it ever was'
As strong as it's been for the last generation or two, yes. But still much better than in the 30s.

And, although in general I get exasperated with those who blame Europaean antisemitism on immigrants and outsiders, and dismiss the long indigenous tradition of local antisemitism and xenophobia - in this case, it did involve an immigrant, and one from a seemingly pretty 'fringe' group. This sort of extreme violence toward Jews is not a normal part of either French or Ivory Coast culture.

Of course, it's horrific that such a thing happened at all, anywhere,
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