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steven johnson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:34 AM Original message |
Scientists see this flu strain as relatively mild |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. k&r |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. LA Times article here |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Can we rec this up to help counteract some of the hyperventilation |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. The only ones hyperventilating |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
80. Maybe someone can show it to Biden. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. That's definitely comforting. |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Actually, that's good advice anytime, pandemic or no |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Yes, it is good advice but people don't do it. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yes, people...don't...do...it--no matter how much and often they are nagged about it. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. So I'm a nag? |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. The point is that you hear this good common sense advice all the time, |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I may have misinterpreted your post as being more hostile than it was. |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
38. I had the flu when I read The Stand |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Don't Cover With Your Hands |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. I've heard the crook of the elbow advice before. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. A vaccine is probably 3-4 months away |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
36. Developing a new vaccine is |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. With all due respect, I think you are off a little in your assessment. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. Did those same people also whip up the fear about SARS, Bird Flu, etc? |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. They also whipped up the fear |
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quidam56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. And, stay away from hospitals, nursing homes and emergency rooms, |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. I hope the family of that child who died in Houston find some comfort in this, too |
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ExPatLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. Swine Flu is pure fearmongering |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I am coming around to concurrence |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Now, Let's Be Fair |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. And the news and news shows are flogging the story for all it is worth. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. So the World Health Organization is a bunch of fear mongers? |
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ExPatLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Guess we'll have to wait and see |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Wasnt it the scientists above saying it was mild? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
77. DING DING DING!!!! Best post of the day!!! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
59. How can you tell ahead of time what path an infection wil take? |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but, didn't the 1918 flu make two passes? |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. This is mentioned at the end of the article. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Not sure, but the pandemic lasted from March 1918 to June 1920, maybe even starting in 1917 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. is it possible that one would hope to get this more mild form now? |
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bushmeister0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. From what i heard it popped up briefly in the spring and then disappeared. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Actually, It Made Three Passes |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
81. no, the first one was noticed, there were hundreds of thousands of cases. |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's a killer! |
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efhmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Looks like a javelina, not a swine, a peccary. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
18. Kicking this, although the "end of the world as we know it" posts are SO entertaining. |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. So if it's mild now, but could mutate into a deadlier form, shouldn't try to catch it now? |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Its also possible that it could mutate again |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
76. This flu may spread rapidly, because so many people have no immunity. |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
24. This just emphasizes to me that people need to pay more attention to hygiene. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. What's the San Diego reference? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It would seem to have been a San Diego patient that was first identified as having the new strain |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Thank you |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. There was a flu-type bug that went around LA last month. |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. OH! I had the same crap, So did Mr. Stubtoe, We're still hacking. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Has there been any solid indication that the Mexican government |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. No, I've seen nothing like that |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
29. Although this is encouraging, there are still a couple of factors |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
82. weak in terms of deaths, but there were hundreds of thousands of cases requiring |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. The killer 1918 flu happened in autumn and winter. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
35. Based on news reports - H1N1 has a mortality rate of 6% in Mexico |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I heard one Mexican expert say there were many more than 2400 cases. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Again, 800+ people died of a flu that most of us have some |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I guess I am skeptical after SARS, bird flu, killer bees, alar, etc., etc. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Don't discount "killer bees". I had a friend who was killed by them. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. i think you left out a word. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. ohhhh |
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Fiendish Thingy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. When WHO and CDC concur with Richard Webby, then I might feel reassured... |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Very interesting. Thanks for the reference. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
84. cytokine storm is a theory, & it's in the process of being, if not debunked, |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. Keep your logic out of our panic! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
44. Anything to keep our minds off of TORTURE! Bird flu, SARS, pen-guns, bombs in baby strollers, etc.. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. Ouch for the mediablitz of fear, alarm, and racism. |
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DemzRock (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
46. Mexico cuts confirmed flu deaths toll to 7 |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. There are more confirmed cases in the US than in Mexico |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Common cold kills 100 people a year |
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kegler14 (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
47. Amusing to note that both liberal and conservative sites |
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JenniferJuniper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. That's the problem with the media constantly crying wolf. |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The article state TWICE that |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
51. I had the flu many years ago when I was 14 or 15. I thought I was going to die. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
54. So where are those who've been fanning the flames of fear around here? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I'll post this again |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
58. Joe's got a biiiiiig mooooouth! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
60. I have suspected as much in the past couple of days. The vast majority |
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Bushknew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
65. Benefits of Grapefruit Seed Extract |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
66. Republicans are trying to politicize to freak everyone out, (blame immigrants, Obama, Dems & |
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
70. Trial Run? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
71. Good to see some clarity. Though perhaps this scare will |
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junior college (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
78. Agreed. This flu bullcrap is so overblown. |
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Slick Nick (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 02:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. agreed |
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