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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:28 PM Original message |
NJ State Trooper Found Not Guilty in Crash That Killed 2 Teens |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. This high speed chase madness must stop! |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, at least they should have to run the siren and lights, and obey |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There is a big downside to that idea though... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. my agency has a very liberal pursuit policy |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. And yet, strangely enough, "England" has a far lower percentage of its citizens |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. that's great but irrelevant |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 05:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It's called "thread drift" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. i'll be sure to look for your |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 05:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Do try not to be a jerk.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 05:10 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. i was just trying to be chahming |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Note that the suspect in the OP was being chased for SPEEDING, not auto theft. eom. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. correct |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. So according to the jury's logic |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. He didn't have his siren on? And they ACQUITTED him? |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Not the court's logic.... |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. I suppose there |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. In N. J.Isn't an emergency vehicle required to have lights and siren |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Not according to the testimony. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Wish I could get away with "never seeing a stop sign." |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That's the thing. To believe the defense experts, we would always be getting into |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. why do you assume he's "getting away with it" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. that may be true, but that wasn't the question here |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. that may be true, but that wasn't the question here |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. Something's not right here |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I'm with you. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Did they ever say why the third vehicle (survivors) was stopped? |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Not Guilty by reason of being a Cop |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Yes, one more example of cops given total immunity |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Because the cop is always ruled to be in the right. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. utter crap |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Probably depends on the area. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Same for mine |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Recently had a case of vigilante justice here... |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. We had the same thing here in 2005 |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. get the facts right |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. I just have to say, Thank You for those of you who are responding. I |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. Did prosecutors over reach in this case? |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes, because they are asking a jury to guess what the state of mind was |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. It is heartbreaking. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Juries don't like finding cops guilty of homicide unless it is overt. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. For whatever reason, "homicide" and "manslaughter" are synonymous in this |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So there is no manslaughter charge at all in NJ? That's interesting. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
39. homicide merely means death caused by another person |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I think so. I predicted a hung jury. Reckless driving with injury might have gotten a conviction |
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blossomstar (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Seems odd to me |
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downindixie (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. I used to work with a cop who would |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Maybe one way to genreate some goodness out of this is to have |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Can the parents file a civil suit? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 04:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. of course nt |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. Just to clarify, I admit 100% that "vehicular homicide" is far more shocking than its |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. We had a lovely case a few years back here in Syracuse. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
50. I disagree with that verdict. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 05:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Neither of those cases should involve a high speed pursuit. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. OK, but what killed Trooper Todechini? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. That would be one school of thought. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-08-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is horrible news |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
30. Did they ever catch the speeder? |
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PaddyBlueEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
32. Putting on my flame retardant shorts.... |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
48. IMO, the DA charged him simply because of the up roar there would have been if... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
51. Another victory for our damned police state. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-09-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
52. Not surprising |
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