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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:14 PM
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Ohio teen sentenced in parking lot noose attack
Source: AP

MOUNT VERNON, Ohio – A central Ohio teenager accused of putting a noose around a Hispanic boy's neck and dragging him in a parking lot has been sentenced to 10 days in jail.

The 18-year-old was sentenced Wednesday in juvenile court in Mount Vernon, a city of 15,000 residents an hour's drive northeast of Columbus. He dropped his original plea of not guilty and pleaded no contest to ethnic intimidation.

A charge of aggravated menacing was dropped.

Seventeen-year-old Robert Cantu says in May 2008 he was dragged from a sidewalk to a parking lot with the noose wrapped around his neck by a group of teenagers shouting racial slurs. He says the teens threatened to hang him before a bystander intervened.

His family says it plans to sue the city, dubbed the state's Most Livable Community in 1994.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090618/ap_on_re_us/us_parking_lot_noose_attack



Only ten days for what could have been an attempted murder?? Yet the guy who killed cats is facing 158 years in prison! WTF.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:17 PM
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1. Ten lousy days? Unbelievable.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:08 AM
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26.  In WI You get more than that for driving the car W/O a license
I'm sure its the same there
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:17 PM
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2. I agree. That is ludicrous...
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:30 PM
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3. The teen boys in my home town in PA
were sentenced yesterday, and they got a few months - up to two years, I think - for the simple assaults for which they were convicted for beating a Mexican man to death while screaming ethnic slurs at him.

Not a whole lot to be proud of for me or for my old homies, none of whom still lives there, but the Feds are investigating, and I'm hoping they'll bring civil rights violations against these thugs:

http://www.republicanherald.com/articles/2009/06/17/news/breaking_news/doc4a39452f8eee9537135852.txt
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:44 PM
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6. How the hell does that work?
If someone dies, how are there no murder charges involved? I read the article. What am I missing?
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:58 PM
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8. The prosecutor, an elected offical,
a Republican, I might add - the area, hideously economically depressed, is all red, so go figure - put on the WORST case imaginable. Just this side of competent, and I'm being generous. It was shocking.

The jurors, very good people who took their job very seriously, followed the instructions exactly, and all they could convict them on were the simple assault charges, and that was because the prosecutor did such a rotten job.

Afterwards, a couple of jurors were interviewed, and they spoke about how hogtied they felt, but they had to follow the instructions, which was exactly right.

Now, with the Feds investigating, I'm hoping to hell that Federal charges are brought against these thugs. One of them is the grand-nephew of my best little friend when we were growing up, and even Jim thinks the whole thing is shameful. The boy's mother, by the way, dates a cop in the town, and he was - it's fairly common knowledge - instrumental in helping the boys get their stories together the day after, before they were arrested.

It's no surprise to find out that the Feds are also investigating the local police department, an act that began BEFORE this murder took place.

And it was such a gorgeous place to grow up, all those years ago.......................
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:43 AM
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14. Yeah, I remember that case...
The "victim" was the one raping the 14 year old sister of his fiance and mother of his children. I couldn't find much sympathy for the attackers or the victim.

This is different. This seems to be pretty cut and dry.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:41 AM
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21. and anyone can Marry a 14 years old in that state
:o)
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:42 AM
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22. In PA...
the legal age of consent is 16. 14 is rape.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:00 AM
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23. Statutory rape,
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 11:16 AM by Tangerine LaBamba
which is different from rape. You don't seem to understand the difference.

In Pennsylvania, the penalty for being here illegally is the same as it is everywhere in the United States: deportation.

Except that you seem to think the proper penalty is murder.

Nice thinking.

And the girl is fifteen.

There are, you know, laws that could have been used to prosecute Mr. Ramirez, but those thugs made it all moot.

So, you like the idea of nice white boys beating to death a Mexican man on the streets of a small Pennsylvania borough?

And you approve of nice white boys beating to death a man who impregnates an underage girl?

Nice. Very nice.......................
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:06 AM
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24. During her testimony...
She stated that they started having sex at age 14. I'm glad you don't consider statuatory rape to be "real" rape :eyes:.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:16 AM
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28. Go read the definitions,
and you'll perhaps understand the difference between a statutory offense and a "real" one.

She's fifteen now. That was my comment.

But, as I said, it's nice that you approve of young white thugs beating a Mexican man to death on the streets of a small Pennsylvania town because of the laws you believe he broke.

And you're at DU? Talk about cognitive dissonance.........................
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:19 AM
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29. Yep..
Being in a position of power and taking advantage of a child. You're right that is better than real rape :eyes:.

I approve of neither. If a person had a piano fall on him due to a college prank gone wrong and then the police found a human skull temple in his house, I wouldn't feel bad for him either .
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:26 AM
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31. He was murdered because he was Mexican
not because he was dating young girls.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:31 AM
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32. I agree..
And that is wrong and they should be prosecuted, but I don't feel bad that he's no longer of this world.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:46 AM
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33. Look, you don't understand
the legal definitions, and I'm not here to instruct you, so if you keep spewing your misconceptions, you're ....... oh, never mind. I'm playing with my food here, that's obvious.

You really do have a hateful view of illegal immigrants. How unfortunate for you, and why on earth are you on a forum like DU?

You have the utter temerity to compare a bunch of thugs beating a man to death with a "college prank"?

You're a total waste............
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:53 AM
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34. Your reading comprehension needs work...
I said no such thing and you may need to reread my posts. I harbor no hatred toward immigrants. Child rapists are another matter though.
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:31 PM
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4. MOUNT VERNON, Ohio: 96.66% White
says the United States Census Bureau.
http://factfinder.census.gov
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:37 PM
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5. "The 18-year-old was sentenced Wednesday in juvenile court ."
There's the problem. Why didn't he go to big boy jail? He should have been tried as an adult even if he was 17 at the time. Why wasn't this prosecuted as a hate crime?
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:57 PM
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7. Anglo legal establishments are very casual about prosecuting crimes against Latinos.
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:05 AM
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12. And people wonder why anti-immigrant bullshit provokes angry responses.
:grr:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:59 PM
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9. It's bizzaro world n/t
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:05 PM
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10. 10 Days? Pathetic
They should have been jailed for 30 days.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:36 PM
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11. The Return of Lynching
Sanctioned by the Republican Media/Legal Establishment
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:12 AM
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27. Well not really ------- real lynching is much worse
WARNING Graphic Link: Note the smiling faces of the onlookers in Indiana 1930

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm18.html

This however is bad enough.

These turds should be required to do manual labor for a few years.

A year of picking up rotting road kill deer carcasses, on the highway sounds about right to me.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:34 AM
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13. Ten years would be more appropriate.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:44 AM
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15. Eh...no one died...
I'd say 1 to 5 years for assault.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:04 PM
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35. isn't this attempted murder?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:07 PM
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36. Could be...
That would be super difficult to prove though.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:05 AM
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16. Sounds like those making the legal decisions in this need to be lynched
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:25 AM
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17. Six Months earlier...
The same kid was attacked and beaten at a party.

He got six months.

Charming community, I'm sure. Voted Ohio's most livable community in 1994. Guess some of them foreigners moved in since then and they need to be harassed.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:39 AM
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18. I'm strangely relieved to learn this was not a "moose attack"
Time to shower up and get on with a long, hard day.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:53 AM
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19. This is unbelievable. I do hope the boy's family sues
This is both attempted murder and a civil rights violation.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:38 AM
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20. ‘Get the black kids’ and they all ran and then they said, ‘Get the spic.‘
Robert’s mother, Marcie Cantu, said they also told her son they were going to take him to a park to hang him.

Two of Robert’s friends and a passerby rescued the 17-year-old, Robert’s mom said.

She said they saved her son’s life.

“They would have killed him. They would have killed him. There’s no doubt in my mind,“ she said.



http://www.nbc4i.com/cmh/news/crime/article/Teen_dragged_with_noose/16683/



Wow this kids don't know how to play soccer or monopoly? they like to play hanging blacks and latinos like their ancestors did, oh! I know, they do it to preserve their heritage.
:Sarcasm:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:07 AM
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25. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH TEXAS?!?!
Oh wait....:rofl:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:19 AM
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30. They system is beyond FUCKED.
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