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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:50 AM
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Poll: More Want Obama To Stick To His Policies Than To Be Bipartisan
Source: The Plum Line

Poll: More Want Obama To Stick To His Policies Than To Be Bipartisan

... the non-partisan Research 2000 has done a national poll that asks a well-crafted question: It finds that by a significant margin, more want Obama to stick to his original policies than to be bipartisan. That’s also true for independents.

The numbers were sent over by the liberal groups that commissioned it, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Democracy for America. The poll asked:

Which do you think should be a higher priority for Barack Obama right now — working in a bipartisan way with Republicans in Congress or sticking to the policies he promised he would during the campaign?

Among voters overall, 49% want Obama to stick to his policies, versus only 33% who want him to be bipartisan. Eighteen percent aren’t sure.

Read more: http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/bipartisanship/poll-more-want-obama-to-stick-to-his-policies-than-to-be-bipartisan/
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:52 AM
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1. If we wanted Republican policies, we'd have elected Republicans.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:53 AM
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2. True dat! nt
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:57 AM
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3. What an Earth-shattering observation!
Who would have thought that if Americans wanted more conservative representation, that they would have voted for more Republicans?!?!?!

This is another case of ignoring the obvious and spinning it to make your point.

Dems were elected in 2006 and 2008 because Americans didn't want Republican policies. So why are Republicans still apparently controlling the message?
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:05 AM
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4. It appears to me Republicans are not controlling the message...
The Blue Dogs are...And many of the Blue Dogs were elected in the past two elections. However, the national election was for Obama and his policies. So, the Blue Dogs need to reconize this.

Then we have the HUGE problem named "JOE"!!
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:10 AM
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5. Seems to me, Republicans are not just controlling the MESSAGE
They're controlling EVERYTHING.
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Frosty cupcake Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:36 AM
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13. Because we live in a one party state?
And all the positioning around the issues is just a kabuki dance designed to fool the public into thinking there is a substantial difference between the parties. With a few exceptions (all of them Democrats, plus Socialist Bernie Sanders), there isn't.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:23 PM
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17. Because they own the fourth estate
Until we get some real press to counter Murdoch...

-Hoot
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:15 AM
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6. That's funny, I read the poll question and thought how poorly written it was
since it implied that his policies were at odds with bipartisanship.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:15 AM
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7. Yeah, good luck with that
Polls have shown overwhelming support for a public option in health care, too. They're too busy securing industry campaign donations at this point to give a damn what the voters want. We'll see some token fighting for a couple of people friendly policies as the election gets closer but, by then, we'll have been sufficiently screwed by fake reform of the banking industry and fake reform of the health care system.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:20 AM
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8. Obama is not in control
JFK thought he was in control but the shadow governing body said otherwise in Dallas.

Obama is being pressured by intimidating forces inside and outside government. Mostly from the military industrial complex but also the bankers and of course Big Oil.

So he capitulates to them at every chance. Who knows what "goods" they have on him? Or it could be a straight intimidation game. Sasha, Malia and Michelle held hostage in the balance. It's the way the game has always been played.

Bad guys have always assassinated their enemies.

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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:55 PM
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18. Nah... Obama was a sell-out before he was president. It's just what he is.
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:21 AM
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9. What are his policies?
Are they sure that Obama's policies, Republican Policies and "Moderate" Democratic policies differ?
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parasearchers Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:23 AM
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10. He has policies?
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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:25 AM
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11. what if his policies are worse
e.g. Afghanistan.
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bc3000 Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:33 AM
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12. Give him time.

Obama is smarter than most of us. He has a long term plan that will only become apparent to us later.

I think it is possible that Obama still thinks bipartisanship is possible, but that he can't expect it to happen overnight, or in just one year.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:11 PM
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15. Is that sarcasm?
Seriously, that argument became ridiculous months ago.
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bongobobtherealone Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:56 PM
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16. REALLY!
You can't be bipartisan with people who are determined to see you fail regardless of how smart you are. I thought he was smarter than he appears to be on this issue. It ain't rocket science~
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:23 PM
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19. That is laughable. I can't believe anyone buys into that bullshit anymore...
That horse has already left the barn.

And while Obama might be "smart" in a con-man sort of way, or in a speech-giver sort of way, he's not nearly smart enough to govern effectively. He has shown himself to be incredibly weak, ineffective, and a Caspar Milquetoast. The opposition has been able to play him like a fiddle on everything that matters most - civil liberties, war, health care, corporate whoring, and the list goes on.

And regarding your reference to "overnight"... no truly "smart" person would attain the Presidency and then proceed to fuck it up so badly in such an incredibly short period of time. The brief time factor of which you speak actually undermines your position. Obama has shown himself to be a mental midget compared to the likes of FDR and LBJ.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:04 AM
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24. Maybe he's smarter than you think. Maybe he was HIRED to fuck it up.
Maybe he WANTS just one term because that means he'll land at Golden Sacks four years sooner that way.

That's what we get for getting chumped - false hope and chump change.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:20 AM
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25. Who knows? You could be right...
I worked in government for a lot of years (now retired). People always tended to attribute massive fuck-ups and idiotic policies to skillful planning and skulduggery. They just can't believe that anyone would be that damned incompetent, so there must be some other explanation. Well, more often than not, there was no other explanation.

There are some mediocre minds in very high positions. Considering Obama's behavior over the past year, I would put my money on him being one of them. Or he could just be a snake. I don't know, though... a guy would have to be pure evil to use the office of the presidency to trash his entire country for personal gain. Bush did that, of course, but Obama... I guess I just don't see that kind of evil coming from him. I see more of a skilled speech-giver, an empty suit who stands for absolutely nothing and who basically stumbled into the presidency by dumb luck and on the basis of his speech-giving skills. His entire presidency, so far, can be summed up by him kissing up to heavy-hitters, giving them pretty much whatever they want, and pleading with them to be nice to him in return. That's pretty much it... a weak, unprincipled, malleable guy who is in WAY over his head. More inept than evil, IMO.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:30 AM
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26. Well, I hope you're right. I guess that's the "hope" we're left with.
;)
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:02 AM
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23. LOL.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:55 AM
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14. 75% of us wanted a public option...
53% of us want out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:09 PM
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20. Nationally elected democrats are such a bunch of sniveling cowards.
They don't have the first idea how to get anything done in congress. They are completely intimidated by the republican party and they lack the ability to control the levers of power. Harry Reid is total tosser - completely hopeless as the leader of the senate. Our congress critters seem to be more interested in cutting special deals that benefit them personally than doing any of the peoples work. They all obey their K street lobbyists orders and they have the backbone of a pack of jellyfish.

I believe our President is a good man but he's looking more and more like the dog that caught the car. He seems completely out of his element and unable for forcefully lead us towards any sort of change for the better.

In fact the only thing worse than this pack if corrupt moronic weaklings is the neo-fascist Republican party.

God help this nation - our leaders are a pack of wild pigs eating their dinner off the backs of the poor.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:44 PM
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21. What are his policies????
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:57 AM
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22. Shocking!!! The people want a people's agenda, not a corporate agenda...Wow!!!
Smilies . . . but couldn't get them to come up!!

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