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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:31 PM
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Mobile phone use may stave off, reverse Alzheimer's: study
Source: AFP


Mobile phone use may stave off, reverse Alzheimer's: study
AFP
AFP - Thursday, January 7

WASHINGTON (AFP) - – Long suspected of causing brain tumors, mobile phones are now being eyed as key allies in the fight against Alzheimer's disease, US researchers said Wednesday in a study.

Researchers at the University of South Florida (USF) found, to their surprise, that 96 mice they zapped twice daily for an hour each time with electromagnetic waves similar to those generated by US mobile (cellular) phones benefited from the exposure.

Long-term exposure to the electromagnetic waves in mobile phones wiped out deposits of beta-amyloid -- a protein fragment that accumulates in the brain of Alzheimer's sufferers to form the disease's signature plaques -- in older mice and improved their memories, the study published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease showed.

Young adult mice with no apparent signs of memory impairment were protected against Alzheimer's disease after several months' exposure to the mobile phone waves, and the memories of normal mice with no genetic predisposition for Alzheimer's disease were boosted after exposure to the electromagnetic waves.

Read more: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100107/tts-health-us-alzheimers-telecom-972e412.html
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:34 PM
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1. So . . .
you can be cognitively top-notch as your doctor explains that your tumor is inoperable!

Yay!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:42 PM
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2. Lots of medical treatments have tradeoffs.
If I was facing Alzheimer's I might be willing to risk a small increased risk of a tumor if I could slow down or prevent the dementia. It all depends on how much benefit the treatment delivers versus how big the increase in tumor risk is.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:45 PM
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3. Just try getting the person with early Alzheimer's to use one.
I kept trying to get my mother (in her late 50s) to use a cell phone. We gave her a tutorial, even taped the instructions to the phone on how to make a call, but she could never do it. She was a highly intelligent person but once the disease started, she couldn't learn anything new. I guess I could have turned it on and laid it by her head in the bed...
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:55 PM
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4. Is this like the Coffee is good for you this week and
bad for you next week type of thing?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:17 PM
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26. Or the incredible edible egg. Or margarine. nt
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:44 PM
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5. Call me Mr. Skeptic on this one.
It's a lot like those high power lines and leukemia in kids. First we hear what it does, then the corporations pay some bogus guy to preach their music.

http://www.midtod.com/9603/voltage.phtml

So now their apologists are starting to act up... But those of us who still remember:

http://environment.about.com/b/2009/03/17/study-finds-cell-phones-increase-brain-cancer-risks-in-children.htm
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:00 PM
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6. it does make sense - in fact, both positions make sense.
The brain is an organic electric machine. Introducing outside energy in the form of different electrical frequencies could easily affect it. Those frequencies could disrupt normal function, causing tumors; they could also restore normal function, giving a boost to malfunctioning synapses, like jumpstarting a car.

The thing to do is figure out what frequencies are harmful, what frequencies can be beneficial, and understand the differences between them.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 07:29 AM
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25. That would be the
avenue for technological development. It seems promising in that it identifies the specific sites of the "improvements" and they know which compounds are influenced by the electro-exposure. I remember first reading about another form of electro-therapy, namely Electro-shock Therapy. It sounded horrid. But patients treated for a variety of ills claim that the improvements are`marked. So the brain is quite adaptable to electro-therapies. I am suspicious of the timing of said discoveries...smells corporate ops to me...IMHO.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:28 PM
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8. I am right there with you. Big problem though - as time has gone on,
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 05:28 PM by truedelphi
No one person or family can reduce their exposure to the cell phone antennae and its relentless pollution.

We moved into a very remote area where there were no antennae - but within three weeks of being there, some neighbor complained about her poor cell phone coverage. And so the antennae came in.

It is good to hear that mice that are zapped twice an hour have some benefits. But most people now live in neighborhoods permeated every minute of every day with huge amounts of electro smog. Something our bodies are just not prepared to deal with. For some people, mild nausea, or dizziness, or headaches are the first clue they are being over exposed.

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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:10 PM
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7. Hogwash -Those Mice Were Experiencing the Placebo Effect
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 02:19 PM by groundloop
:sarcasm:


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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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9. Cell Phones May Protect Brain From Alzheimer's
Source: BOSTON (WBZ)

Millions of us use cell phones every day. Now a new study finds that the electromagnetic waves typically emitted by cell phones may prevent, and even reverse Alzheimer's -- at least in mice.

Dr. Jeffrey Cummings of the UCLA Alzheimer's Center pulls up an image of amyloid plaques that are thought to be associated with Alzheimer's disease. "It is these plaques that were reduced by long-term exposure to electromagnetic radiation in the mice. This was a provocative study in which mice that were genetically engineered to have Alzheimer's disease were exposed to radiation similar to that, that's emitted by cell phones. And it showed that those mice who had that exposure had a reduction in the toxic protein that causes Alzheimer's disease."


Read more: http://wbztv.com/health/cell.phone.alzheimers.2.1411892.html
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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10. yeah but the brain tumors would give you just as much problems
:eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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11. By giving you a brain tumor that will kill you
you won't have to worry about Alzheimer's.

:-(
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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12. Crock of Shit Anyone?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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13. I notice the article doesn't say who paid for the study.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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14. Doesn't seem any worse than the "OMG SKY FALLING-- CELLPHONE EMISSIONS" reports NM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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16. Agree ---
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:32 AM
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15. oh that's a good one
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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17. um
:rofl:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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18. Well if it kills a toxic preteen what does it do to a healthy cell?
Just curious.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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19. Interesting. I want more research like this. (nt)
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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20. who reported this? That is psycho language.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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21. My sister's gonna be in great shape then!
:-)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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22. I'll bet the mice have more meaningful phone calls than the average L.A. driver, too...
I still support paws-free laws, though...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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24. LOL rofl DUzy Hall of Fame!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:33 AM
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23. yeah, if you could only remember where you left it.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:31 PM
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27. ATT wants out of the landline biz. n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:59 PM
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28. I see the "cell phones cause cancer" people are going bonkers.
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 04:00 PM by Odin2005
:rofl:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:29 PM
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29. I think most here think this report is bullshit
especially after claiming cell phones help reverse Alzheimer's. As for people claiming cell phones cause cancer, no one really knows for sure, but according to this report, we are to believe it reverses Alzheimer's?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:37 PM
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30. "Argument From Incredulity" is a Fallacy.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:41 PM
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31. explain
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 04:43 PM by fascisthunter
you can call my statement whatever you want, but if you claim to know otherwise you should be willing to back it up.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:49 PM
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32. It sounded like you were pooh-pooh-ing the study because it doesn't seem believable.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 05:06 PM
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34. I sort of did, based on other things I have Read, and not out of total ignorance
Those saying cell phones do cause cancer are probably reading studies like this one to make a conclusion, but the truth is, we just don't know enough, pro or con.

As for the info on cell phones possibly causing cancer, I'd just google and see what's out there. Here's something recent for you or anyone else to consider:

Maine to consider cell phone cancer warning
"The report highlights a study that found significantly increased risk of brain tumors from 10 or more years of cell phone or cordless phone use."

http://www.nickvanderleek.com/2009/12/maine-to-consider-cell-phone-cancer.html
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 05:03 PM
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33. That's why I can never get anyone on my new Placebo phone.
I'd call the company but they don't pick up either
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