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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:56 AM
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BP deploys second containment box
Source: CNN

Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- BP is lowering a second oil containment box in an effort to stop a weeks-long oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico, the oil company said.

A larger containment vessel was unsuccessful in stopping the flow of oil from the gusher about 5,000 feet underwater. The spill is sending 210,000 gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico each day.

Called "top hat," the 5-foot-tall, 4-foot-diameter structure weighs less than two tons. The structure is being deployed by the drill ship Enterprise.

BP built the smaller dome after a much larger, four-story containment vessel designed to cap the larger of two leaks in the well developed glitches Saturday. Ice-like hydrate crystals formed when gas combined with water and blocked the top of the dome, making it buoyant.

The new device would keep most of the water out at the beginning of the capping process and would allow engineers to pump in methanol to keep the hydrates from forming, said Doug Suttles, BP's chief operating officer for exploration and production. Methanol is a simple alcohol that can be used as an antifreeze.


Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/12/oil.spill.main/
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:02 AM
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1. 5 foot tall with a 4 foot diameter? It took them weeks to build the fucker?
Here is a hint for next time...Jesse James, Monster Garage, meth, 3 porn stars, and a pot of coffee.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:41 AM
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6. They had to wait for the paint to dry
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:02 AM
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9. ABC can demolished an old house and put up a McMansion in a week
Complete with swimming pool and 3 car garage.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:56 AM
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16. If they could do that 5000' under the sea then I might be impressed ...
Until then, it's just more irrelevant bollocks from people who haven't a clue.

:shrug:
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:20 PM
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17. The clue is if they can't fix a problem at 5000 ft below
Maybe they shouldn't be drilling there until they do know how. But go ahead and tell me how clueless I am.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:04 PM
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:38 PM
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21. Delete
Edited on Wed May-12-10 06:45 PM by itsrobert
Not worth my time. Have a nice day.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:38 PM
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:10 AM
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2. K&R
If this littler containment box idea doesn't work, the backup plan is sure to get the job done. And what is this plan, you ask?

- Two words: Hoop Skirt

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:21 AM
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3. it JUST came to me.... cap it with RUSH's fatass mouth! prob solved...
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:22 AM
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4. Stop the leak my big hairy butt, BP want to collect the oil and sell it
BP is not concerned for an instant about damage to the environment; BP wants the cash from the oil. The blow out represents lost revenue to them.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:29 AM
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5. That is the catalyst for action...
lost profit will do it every time...:hi:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:44 AM
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7. Get it in perspective ...
> BP is not concerned for an instant about damage to the environment;
> BP wants the cash from the oil. The blow out represents lost revenue to them.

The cash from the "lost" oil (OK, we know where it is but you know what I mean)
would be a drunken dream if it turned up in our bank accounts but it is
truly trivial compared to the ongoing financial cost of every day since
the rig blew up.

Whether or not you believe that "BP is not concerned for an instant about
damage to the environment", surely you can't fail to see the difference in
monetary value alone (i.e., ignoring the PR wreck) between 5,000+ barrels
per day being sold and 5,000+ barrels per day in an uncontrolled release
into the sea?

:shrug:
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The Croquist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:54 AM
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8. They may be able to sell it but that is not their motive
The estimates are that so far 95,238 barrels have been spilled. At $76.15 that works out to 7,252,374 dollars gross. The estimates of BPs liability are in excess 10 billion dollars and that doesn't include the bad press. I know a few people who still won't buy Exxon because of the Exxon Valdez spill.

They want this thing stopped as much as anybody.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:17 AM
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10. Yeah, they want it stopped because it makes them look bad
Not so much because it's the right thing to do, and their responsibility. :eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:07 AM
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12. Or maybe...
They know they have to stop the environmental damage, AND they want to recover the oil.

Which is just fine.
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:57 AM
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11. I have a feeling...
that this isn't gonna work either.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:02 AM
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15. Oh but why?
because all these "solutions" seem to be pulled from their ass?

I'm waiting for the big golf ball trick. That will be really fun to watch.

They fill the thing with golf balls, it stops for a little bit, builds up more pressure and then, FOOM! Golf ball geyser!!! LOL

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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:11 AM
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13. Petersen Inflatable Multi-Flex Pipe Plug Insertion System
Petersen Inflatable Multi-Flex Pipe Plug Insertion System installs a plug into a pressurized pipeline without removing pressure. This allows for maintenance of pipelines without reducing pressure or emptying the pipeline. There are two Petersen Hot Tap Insertion Systems.

They make these up to 96", it sounds better than pumping garbage into the hole.




Different application (below), but to illustrate how the system works.

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maytagge Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:22 PM
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20. ratings on this?
What kind of pressure are these things rated for?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:37 PM
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22. Don't bother ...
... the mods are against honest facts and logic at the moment ...

:wtf:
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:38 PM
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23. not sure, but
they have different versions for different applications and they do service off-shore industries.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:13 AM
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14. That's not a box
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maytagge Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:20 PM
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19. How long is this bent up riser pipe?
Can someone tell me if I'm missing something here or what? What is stopping them from simply grabbing the business end of this bent ass riser pipe and pulling it up closer to the surface to work on it? I have read several reports that the pipe is actually already straightening itself out from the internal oil pressure and that the oil flow will more than double when it does..
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:17 PM
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25. I don't know about raising the pipe...
...for one thing, apparently with the oil gushing through it, it includes sand which is damaging the pipe from the inside and it won't hold forever. At least that is one thing I've picked up in reading about this catastrophe.

By the way, welcome to DU!
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maytagge Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 08:46 AM
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26. Garden hose..
I was wondering if they simply could not begin to slowly lift the pipe to a "safe" working depth and begin to restrict the flow causing the kinks in the pipe start to re-form kind of like a garden hose would with kinks in it and the building pressure behind them.. For as much as BP claims to want any and all outside input on this issue I have yet to see ANY real facts or data involving the actual site as it is, pipe diameters, extend of damage to the pipe, sea floor detail or anything. How can anyone make an informed suggestion without any information?
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