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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:31 AM
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Ny Times reporting Rice to leave her job at end of the year
Panel Hasn't Heard From Official It Wants Most
By ELISABETH BUMILLER and PHILIP SHENON

ASHINGTON, March 25 — The White House may have sent a phalanx of top officials to Capitol Hill this week to be grilled by the Sept. 11 panel, but the one official who did not appear publicly has turned out to be the official the panel wanted most: Condoleezza Rice.

As she prepares to leave her job at the end of the year, Ms. Rice, the president's national security adviser, now finds herself at the center of a political storm, furiously defending both the White House and her own reputation.

But her effort to blunt the criticism by spending the week on television and in news briefings may have had the opposite effect.

She has infuriated some members of the panel, who wonder why she has time for CNN but not for them. On Thursday they questioned again whether she should be subpoenaed to testify if she does not appear in public to answer questions about the Bush administration's handling of Al Qaeda before the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/26/politics/26COND.html?pagewanted=print&position=
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:38 AM
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1. She has the time to defend herself
but will not answer to the American public about anything. We've been saying that for 2 1/2 years.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:41 AM
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2. wow, that's the first I've seen about condi leaving
has this been reported before?
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:53 AM
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3. I have never heard of it being reported before although I think there was
some chatter a while back that she wanted the state dept job. Powell has indicated he didn't want to stay for a second term. Maybe that's what happening. But to be sure I have never seen it in print or hear anyone talk or report about her leaving her post at the end of Bush's first term.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:15 AM
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23. I've heard that Powell was leaving, but as maddezmom said
I have never heard Condi's name mentioned before as a future departed.

Maybe they are beginning to realize that Bush may lose the election, so it is better to say that one is leaving now, and land a plum job in the private sector while the going is good.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:29 AM
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34. Old news
I heard Condasleeza was leaving awhile back.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:09 PM
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48. First I've Heard Of It Too!
And it is reported so matter-of-factly. Ah, so sickening. Just like everything that goes on in this administration.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:56 AM
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4. She'll be leaving at the end of the year anyway?
:shrug:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:58 AM
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6. excellent point, molly!
:)
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:56 AM
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5. They're all leaving their posts at the end of the year...
...or, more precisely, in January.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:05 AM
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7. Zactly!
So what is the news here? We all know she is leaving!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:29 AM
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10. Right on
let her get back to buying shoes.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:05 AM
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41. Yes!
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:11 AM
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8. Gee, I guess it was not only DU members
that noticed she had all the time in the world for going on 50 TV shows but not any time for the 9-11 panel. Who would have Thunk that :headbang:
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:18 AM
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9. But now she is going back before the commission
At least the request has been made (from the White House) that she go back and talk to them in private. I don't like this - see a problem here. The White House had to know what was in Clarke's book, knew what Clarke going to say, then screamed to high heaven how awful it was - and promptly asked that she go back and talk to them in private. Set up - now she knows everything Clarke said in his public testimony and has the opportunity (in private) to rebut what he said - in other words - plenty of time to try to get her act together. I'm beginning to think this was planned.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:33 AM
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12. You may have some thing. They did see the book before
But I really do not think half these guys are as smart as we give them credit for. I also think Bush is letting his ego get to him and taking over some of the running of things. Few more weeks of this and they will have to bring James Baker right into the WH to fix things up.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:32 AM
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11. Just issue the FKn subpoena already!
Does it cost $20,000,00.00 to issue a subpoena or something?

WTF is it with all these threats and talk of a subpoena?

Who the hell is running this show?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:58 AM
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13. You can't just go around subpoenaing everyone - now if it was about her...
sex life - that would be different - sarcasm
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:57 AM
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32. I need a lawyer...
Cause I feel like I was raped by Rice. How do you suppose the men and women freshly denude of arms and legs feel?
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:12 AM
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14. next Senator from California
she and the hispanic treasury lady are being considered I hear...for the GOP candidate...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:49 AM
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46. Like HELL she is! Not if THIS Californian has anything to say about it!!!
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 11:51 AM by calimary
I think by the time she'd be available to run for the Senate out here, she'll have been so thoroughly tarnished by all this that she'd have to beg for the dog-catcher's job. And she wouldn't even be worthy of that, having botched it at the side of the First Dog Dropper.

In fact, I have a new name for her. She's the Great Ball-DROPPER. Because, as I argued before a VERY feisty staffer in Richard Lugar's office just a few minutes ago (per my sig line), she's done NOTHING but drop the ball since she got that job.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:19 AM
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15. Rice is a lightweight...just a Bush Crime Family Hack
Overblown reputation as some kind of a big thinker. Great PR, great package - all nurtured by the right wing think tank system. In th end she is incompetent like the rest of the "heavyweights" in the administration. The great untold D.C. secret is that these people do not know what the fuck they are doing.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:54 AM
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20. You have it right, bushwakker
"The great untold D.C. secret is that these people do not know what the fuck they are doing."

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:27 AM
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16. Condi is duck soup
She has shown the world how weak, how manipulative she tries to be on the right wing news outlets. She is out of the loop on the major issues and has proved to the world how weak junior is in this job.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:42 AM
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17. Let's hope they ALL leave their job in November...
n/t
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:44 AM
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18. I suggest reading for the evil dr...
"How to Survive in Prison"
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:54 AM
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19. Maybe she should leave the country?
Go to some back-water 3rd world nation that has no extradition treaty with the US?

Condi to Realtor: "Never mind the climate or culture, what I wanna know is DO THEY EXTRADITE???"...
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:44 AM
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37. Foreign Countries For Boosh Regime Extraditables
If I were a Boosh regime apparatchik afraid of being extradited, I would try to flee to Paraguay. I don't think that Paraguay has an extradition treaty with the US.

Unfortunately, I can think of two unfortunate debits for Paraguay for fleeing Booshistas. First, Paraguay IS bilingual--but only for Spanish and Guarani (a widely-spoken Indian language). Few Booshistas are bilingual except for Otto Reich.


Second, eastern Paraguay is supposed to be a lawless area with a reputed al Quaeda presence. Hezbullah is also supposed to be active there.


Furthermore, I suspect that self-exiled Booshistas would have to STAY in Paraguay. Paraguayan neighbors Brazil and Argentina both have beefs with the US in general and the Republican Party in particular.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:57 AM
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21. "As she prepares to leave her job at the end of the year"?
Weird how Bumiller seems to just throw in this line so matter-of-factly. "Prepares to leave at the end of the year"? The end of the year isn't exactly around the corner. It's more than 8 months away.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:25 AM
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26. I think it is very odd the way this line was dropped in. I
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 08:30 AM by HopeLives
haven't heard a single rumor about this and I think I follow the news fairly closely.

I want some follow-up!

On edit: Josh Marshall has a link to a story from Jan. that says Condi said 2004 is definitely her last year working in the WH.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:04 AM
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22. Going into the consulting business with Ken Starr & Ken Lay ????
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:16 AM
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24. Hopefully she and all this administration will be leaving their jobs
and spending many, many years in the hoosegow.
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SendTheGOPPacking Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:22 AM
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25. No kidding. Why spend so much time on TV but refuse to report
to the panel? This is so blatent it's sickening.

And now she is requsting a private hearing? Shit. Condi should have bee fired long ago.

Rice seeks private meeting with 9/11 panel
Clarke charges seen as devastating; commission could insist on oath

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4601195/
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CookieD Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:25 AM
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27. Wow, how ironic is this one part?
But this week, Ms. Rice dismissed Mr. Clarke's memorandum as unrelated to the question of possible terrorist activity in the United States, including so-called sleeper cells, underground groups of terrorists.

"The Jan. 25 memo is somewhat remarkable for what's not in it," Ms. Rice said this week, adding that "there's one mention of sleeper cells — at 10 pages, two words at the end of one line."

Gee, isn't this the same woman who cannot recall whether or how carefully she read the National Intelligence Estimate or certain uranium memos from George Tenet in the months before the Iraq war? Apparently Condi only carefully reads stuff from Richard Clarke. :shrug:
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:40 AM
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28. Retire after you bobble under oath
Condi is squarely a hypocrite. She takes pot shots from behind the white house curtains and has the nerve to call Richard Clarke a liar, but won't come on the same stage and argue her point in front of the American people and under oath. Can someone please tell her this is not how America works? Gee-sh, if she's got a problem, she should get her bony butt in front of the commission so we can hear about all the inconsistent statements coming forth from the white house.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:56 AM
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29. I expect she'll deny leaving. (But not under oath!) n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:41 AM
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30. She knows she's the designated scapegoat
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 09:49 AM by rocknation
She knows that if she goes within ten miles of that panel, Cheney And Associates will pile on her like it's fourth and inches at the Super Bowl. She'll be blamed for not properly warning them about 9/11 and misinforming them about Iraq's WMDs. If she quits now, she'd lose her executive privilege, wouldn't she? Remember, Condi, executive privilege didn't work for Nixon, either!

:headbang:
rocknation

On edit: Oh, ELISABETH BUMILLER had a hand in this story! That explains why it smells...
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:51 AM
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31. I guess we'll just have to sweat it out until she's gone.
She should resign now.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:26 AM
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33. ALL of them will be leaving their jobs
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 10:26 AM by WorstPresidentEver
in less than a year.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:30 AM
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35. YES-hopefully
Or many American's will be leaving the country in search of freedom.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:37 AM
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36. I'll be even more ticked off if she is allowed to testify PRIVATELY!!!
After her constant character assassinations of any and all
critics and her hiding behind the pants of executive privelege
is appalling and................

to reward her with a private questioning is plain and simple...

UN-DEMOCRATIC!!!!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:59 AM
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38. Nice picture


Gives a different meaning to "someone hiding behing the flag"
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:02 AM
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39. Not soon enough - LEAVE NOW CONDI!!!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:02 AM
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40. Dupe, ignore
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 11:02 AM by dralston
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:05 AM
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42. President Dipshit Will Make Her The Scapegoat Then Pardon Her
heh..

Maybe Condi will turn dem. after what she's been forced to go through under the Rove/Cheney admin.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:07 AM
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43. IT DOESN'T FREAKING MATTER!
Bush isn't winning the election anyways...."end of the year" don't make me laugh!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:07 AM
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44. Trying to get outta Dodge, is she?
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 11:16 AM by calimary
She has a few things to 'fess up to the sheriff about, first, I think.

Check my sig line...

And this...

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407

Washington Office*
Tel: (202) 331-4060
Fax It is vital to get these criminals under oath.
: (202) 296-5545

email: info@9-11Commission.gov

And don't forget your reps in Congress:

www.senate.gov

http://www.house.gov/writerep/


NOTE: I just called them. Got through to some young woman on the switchboard (who seemed rather sympathetic). She urged me to WRITE. I asked what was preferred - she said: letter, fax, or email. Yes. Email. So here's what I just emailed:

Gentlepeople:

PLEASE!

For the sake of ALL Americans,

For the sake of ALL the families of the 9-11 victims, whose blood cries out,

For the sake of their families, who are left, still, so far, with NOTHING,

For the sake of our nation's honor and credibility (what's left of it, anyway) in the eyes of the world,

For justice,

PLEASE!

FORCE CONDOLEEZZA RICE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH.

Urgently yours,

(me)

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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:30 AM
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45. Where's she going, to prison?
.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:00 PM
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47. So, maybe she's writing her own book. Can't have a public testimony
giving away the plot, can she? Think of the buko bucks she could make on a book sharing the secrets she knows. Be kinda tough to spend from a prison cell though.

Wishful thinking, I love to read. :evilgrin:
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:08 PM
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49. Some poor university will probably have to take her back
into the academic realm as an overpaid administrator. Barf! :puke:
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:10 PM
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50. I report that they all will be leaving on January 20, 2005.
Now it's all starting to unravel for them. The press is actually asking QUESTIONS!
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