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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:10 PM
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France's Villepin to Visit Haiti Next Week



Fri Mar 26, 2004 09:59 AM ET
PARIS (Reuters) - French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin will go to Haiti next week on the first visit by a high-ranking foreign political leader since President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was toppled in a rebellion.
A Foreign Ministry spokesman said Villepin would visit the Caribbean country on April 1 but gave no details of his program.

Villepin said earlier this month he would visit the former French colony after a government of national unity was installed.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4672011
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:14 PM
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1. Threats to Aristide supporters

PORT-AU-PRINCE, March 18.—Members of the party headed by the deposed president of Haiti, Jean Bertrand Aristide, are being repressed and, according to his former minister Leslie Voltaire, his former aides are under threat.

Voltaire stated today that members of the Lavalas Family Party cannot meet and are being subjected to a veritable witch hunt.


The French government, the former colonial metropolis, has decided that Dominique de Villepin, its foreign minister, will be the first foreign dignitary to visit the country in response to an invitation by the new government. He should arrive in Haiti before the end of the month.

The significance of this act is evident: it will be the first visit from a head of French diplomacy since Haiti’s independence in 1804, according to the AFP news agency.

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2004/marzo/vier19/13amenaz.html



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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:00 PM
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9. Dominique de Villepin en visite jeudi en Haïti
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 05:21 PM by saigon68
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/040326/5/3pvd5.html


Le ministre français des Affaires étrangères Dominique de Villepin effectuera jeudi prochain une visite en Haïti, a indiqué vendredi le Quai d'Orsay.

Ce déplacement, qui intervient un mois seulement après le départ en exil du président haïtien Jean-Bertrand Aristide, le 29 février dernier, devrait permettre une première prise de contact avec les nouvelles autorités du pays.

"Dominique de Villepin n'a jamais fait mystère de son intention de se rendre rapidement en Haïti pour rencontrer les autorités du nouveau gouvernement haïtien, faire un bilan de la relation franco-haïtienne", a précisé le porte-parole du ministère, Hervé Ladsous, sans autres détails. AP

Rough translation

The French Minister for the Foreign Affairs Domenica de Villepin will next Thursday pay a visit to Haiti, the Quay of Orsay reported Friday.

This visit, which comes only one month, after the departure in exile of Haitian president Jean-Jean-Bertrand Aristide, last 29 February, should allow a first meeting with the new leaders of the country.

"Domenica de Villepin did not never make mystery of his intention to go quickly to Haiti to meet the leaders of the new Haitian government, and to take stock of the "Franco-Haitian", realtionship stated the spokesman of the ministry, Herve Ladsous, without explanation.


Read between the lines Sports Fans !!!!!!!!!!! Not much going on here
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:17 PM
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2. French Minister Villepin's sister was up to her neck in the coup
from Tinoire previous post


Journalist and French writer Thierry Meyssan reports that France and United States agreed in the summer of 2003 to a joint plan to prepare a coup d'etat against the ousted president of Haiti, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, due, among others things, to Washington's strategic interests in the region and to utilize the country as a base of operations to finish off Fidel Castro "within five months". The other motive would be French reaction to Aristide's decision to demand that Paris refund debt payments contracted with the former colony throughout the XIX century.

<snip>

Under these circumstances, indicates the journalist, Bush contacted France to carry out the plan to overthrow Aristide, with the objective to establish a base of operations "to finish off Fidel Castro (president of Cuba) within five months". The project would encompass 4 phases. The first phase was to achieve "democratic destabilization" by means of supporting and financing the internal opposition with funds from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and the creation, directed by U.S. undersecretary of State, Roger Noriega (an old enemy of Liberation Teology, to which Aristide subscribed), of a task force "for democratic restoration".

<snip>

The second phase is referred to as "diplomatic pressure", an operation supervised by the French intellectual Régis Debray and Veronique Albanel, president of the Universal Fraternal Association and the sister of Dominique of Villepin, the current French foreign minister. Under this cover, the U.S. and France exerted pressures on different countries of the region so that they would not participate in the ceremonies of the 200th independence anniversary of the "first black republic of America", celebrated January 1, this year in Port au Prince.

The third phase of the plan was the 'military destabilization' of Haiti in which, according to Meyssan, United States would put into play an armed group in the Dominican Republic, under the orders of Guy Philippe. In February 5, this group carried out an armed uprising in Gonaives (north), while the Group of 184, "in permanent contact" with the American secretary of state, Colin Powell, ordered the opposition to maintain a distance with the rebels to be able to opt for power without "having to feel responsible for the abuses or atrocities committed by the insurgents on their behalf", added the journalist.

<snip>

That same day, AFP commented that "many in Port Au Prince believed that the Dominican Army allowed the old Haitian military to enter Haiti with the approval of the U.S. which maintains very close ties with its joint command and the Government." The French agency also recalled that the "Dominican Republic was the only Caribbean country to sent 300 soldiers to Iraq at the request of the U.S." The fourth act of the plan was the "Abduction". On Sunday, U.S. Special Forces seized the Presidential Palace and told Aristide that, unless he resigned, he would be sent to Miami to be judged for drug trafficking. Otherwise, they would expect the arrival of his opponent, Guy Philippe, who had received orders "to kill him", said Meyssan.

<snip>

http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/03/22828.php

Here's the original article:

Washington and Paris overthrow Aristide
Coup d’Etat in Haiti
Washington and Paris reconciled their colonial interests in the Caribbean by going on the attack with a cunning, well organized coup d’Etat in Haïti to overthrow elected president Aristide. After building an opposition that suited US interests, in the shape of former Duvalier regime financial handyman Andre Apaid, Washington then created armed opposition headed by former putschist officer Guy Philippe. Meanwhile, French powerbrokers Regis Debray and Veronique de Villepin-Albanel tried to force Jean-Bertrand Aristide to resign. Eventually, as the street remained loyal to Aristide, the "rebels" did not sweep into Port-au-Prince. It was left to US special forces to kidnap the president, in a dawn raid on the presidential palace.

<snip / note snipped sentence about Guy Phillipe fleeing to the US Embassy after the first coup in 2000! >

The Bush-2 administration made its decision to overthrow him at the end of 2002, and found a good community of views with France on this subject, since both nations have traditionally seen Haiti as needing common control. Paris, conversely, did not set its stance until summer 2003. By then, a common plan was laid down for the coup that was coming.

<snip>

Act 2: Diplomatic coercion

On the French side, the operation was supervised by Régis Debray and Véronique Albanel. The latter is listed as president of the "Universal Brotherhood" which carries out charitable action in Haïti, linked with the catholic church. Albanel is also the sister of Dominique Galouzeau de Villepin, France’s foreign secretary, and the wife of French airforce general Baudoin Albanel.

(( My note: Shades of Napolean's sister, Pauline Leclerc, who went to Haiti to restore slavery in 1804 - At the last moment Bonaparte changed the command, putting his brother-in-law, Leclerc, at the head, a sign of the importance he attached to the venture. Pauline, Leclerc’s wife, and their son went with the expedition. She carried musicians, artists, and all the paraphernalia of a court. Slavery would be re-established, civilization restarted, and a good time would be had by all. More about that here: http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/43a/379.html

On July 15, 2003, Andre Apaid <4>, a former financial handyman of the Duvalier regime <5> and the leader of Group 184 <6>, started raising the pressure, with a meeting organized in a slum devoted to Aristide, the Cite Soleil. Apaid asked for aid and protection from France, who provided him with armed escorts, and the presence of French embassy first secretary Stephane Grumberg. As hoped and planned, the meeting soon turned into riot, leaving 6 dead and 40 wounded by gunfire. Witnesses blamed French guards as solely responsible for the slaughter, which of course was denied by the embassy <7>.

On December 17, 2003, at 3 pm, Regis Debray showed up at the presidential palace to demand that elected president Jean-Bernard Aristide resign. This was refused, and was followed a few days later by the public release by Debray and Villepin-Albanel of their report to Foreign secretary Dominique de Villepin. The report noted: "Let us not fool ourselves. The resignation of President Aristide will not make the country more prosperous overnight, nor will it make it more productive." (p. 35). "Many persons imagine rivalry exists where there is in fact complementarity , and though our means of influence are not the same, they can and must add up, for the good of Haiti. It may be the President’s task, or at least the Foreign Affairs Minister’s, to define from the beginning, at the best level, the methods and spirit of this combination. A stronger implication in Haïti could indeed not run against the interests of the United States, but should operate in a well-balanced and cautious spirit." (p. 52). To sum up, the goal was to overthrow Aristide to defend the common interests of a large American empire and a small French empire. However, following the Iraq crisis and in a context of growing German-French alliance in Europe, Berlin also had to be brought onside in this joint effort, and also find its interest for its tiny empire. The report continued: "One cannot help thinking of the advantages, not only symbolic, that would be brought by opening a common French and German diplomatic mission in Port-au-Prince, which would naturally echo, on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, by opening of French-German missions, for example in Windhoek, Namibia, or elsewhere" (p. 57). The United States and France put pressure on various Caribbean and Latin American states to not take part in the the 200th aniversary ceremonies of the "first Negro republic of America" <8>, held on 1 January, 2004, in Port-au-Prince. Only South African president Thabo Mbeki defied the great powers by attending it.

<snip>

More of this Thierry Meyssan's great article here: http://www.voltairenetwork.net/article7.html

















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<snip>

Meanwhile, in France, a lawyer is preparing a complaint for "complicity in abduction" against four people connected with the Foreign Ministry, Concannon said.

He identified them as: Thierry Burkard, France's ambassador to Haiti; Yves Gaudel, the former ambassador; Regis Debray, president of a commission on French-Haiti relations; and Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin's sister, Veronique. She and Debray visited Aristide in December to demand his resignation, according to his French lawyer, Gilbert Collard.

<snip>

French Foreign Ministry spokesman Herve Ladsous said he had no comment on the lawyers' plans. He did not respond to a question about the role of de Villepin's sister at the ministry, saying only that several "qualified personalities" worked with Debray's commission.

<snip>

http://www.recorder.ca/cp/World/040310/w031059A.html
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mikey_1962 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:44 PM
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3. Gee, The Frogs involved in international intregue? Who knew?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:04 PM
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10. Au revoir
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 04:47 PM
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8. "Journalist and French writer Thierry Meyssan "
the same guy who claimed in his book September, 11 2001 : The big lie that no plane ever crashed into the pentagone


http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2912362733/171-6757397-9210650


:tinfoilhat:
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Rochambeau Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:17 PM
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11. Thierry Meyssan..........
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 05:41 PM by Rochambeau
This guy is a lunatic, he's absolutly out of any credibility in France since a while (his book). One day, his next book maybe, he'll tell us that Lee H. Oswald never died and he planned 0911 from his refuge (a cave digged in the basement of Crawford Ranch Texas). The ugliest and stupidest anti-americanism, unfortunatly, France can produce.... :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

From who did that source came first here on DU ??:freak: :nopity: :9 Once again...

SECOND EDIT : To say that I disaprove deeply that visit from DeVillepin anyway. It's obscene, I'm very disapointed.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:48 PM
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4. ROADTRIP !!!!
:loveya: :loveya: He is so yummy :loveya: :loveya:


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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:57 PM
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5. very disappointed in Villepin nt
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:57 PM
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6. I recommend to everyone the book Hideous Dream by Stan Goff.
I'm reading it right now. So far, it seems this whole thing is a repeat of 1994 in Haiti.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:20 PM
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12. I've avoided this thread because I am so pissed at Villepin!!!
I am very at odds with his,...involvement. Asshole!!!

His true colors in this matter are bleeding all over the place. I WANT to witness him show true character. If he fails to do so, my heart won't be broken,...but, I suspect that his career will suffer. People are tired of this crap.
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