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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:27 AM
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8 dead, 12 hurt at off-road race in Calif. desert
Source: AP

LUCERNE VALLEY, Calif. – A vehicle plowed into a crowd at a popular off-road race in the Southern California desert on Saturday night, killing eight people and leaving 12 wounded, authorities said.

The accident happened shortly before 8 p.m. at the race called the California 200, said San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Cindy Bachman.

Bachman said 12 people were injured, several seriously. Most were airlifted from the area to Loma Linda University Hospital.

The race was held in Soggy Dry Lake Bed near the city of Lucerne Valley in the Mojave Desert, 100 miles northeast of Los Angeles.

Read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-offroadcrashdeaths



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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:05 AM
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1. "The driver wasn’t hurt but had to flee the scene to escape angry spectators"
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 09:15 AM by mike r
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 09:53 AM
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2. How horrible. A friend of mine was probably there to photograph the race.
I'll check up on him.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:24 AM
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3. The crowd blames the driver for them standing too close.
Figures. :eyes:
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:38 AM
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4. All these races are nothing less than INSANITY!!
What a waste of lives, not to mention all the fuel they use, and all the fuel used getting people and racing vehicles to the events!

Am I all alone in thinking we should outlaw auto and truck and stunt car races and exhibits?
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:41 PM
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7. I certainly hope you are.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:01 PM
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8. Why stop at motorsport?
I wonder what the carbon footprint of the cars, RVs, team buses and transports used for major cycling races could be?

I think we should also suspend all sporting events requiring stadium lighting, what with the vast amounts of coal and other fossil fuels used to generate all that electricity!

Heck, why don't we just agree to shut everything down in a knee-jerk response and live healthy, minimalist lives with masturbation as the only allowed form of safe, energy-conscious entertainment.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:06 PM
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10. Even that wouldn't meet the energy conscious requirement...
Think of all that wasted Cocoa butter and paper towels! We should just go puritan and accuse our neighbors of being witches for entertainment. At least that doesn't require petroleum. Witch Witch!!!

:evilgrin:
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:14 AM
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25. And concerts, and Burning Man, and Festivals
EVERYTHING has an impact.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:45 PM
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11. Are you alone in wanting to "outlaw?" Close to it.
I've been to many auto races (NHRA, NASCAR, the old CANAM, dirt track round 'n' rounds, etc.). Very few deaths.

We should avoid reaching for the "gun" of prohibition every time a rare tragedy happens. Safety-obsession is unbecoming.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:08 PM
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13. Those races all have some degree of safety for the spectator
I saw the video of this tragedy on NBC News tonight, those spectators have zero protection. Given that, I feel they bear some responsibility for what happens to them in the event of a mishap.

It's like being at the hockey game, a puck could fly into the crowd, if you want to watch a hockey game safely, do it from the closest seats (protected by plexiglass) or watch it on TV.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 12:25 PM
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23. Not to mention the fact that it tears up the desert.
You are not alone in wanting to outlaw these races.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:15 AM
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26. Panic! Ban! Panic! Ban! Panic! Ban! Panic! Ban! (nt)
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:43 AM
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5. "The crash was the latest in a series of race accidents that have proved deadly to spectators."
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:29 AM
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28. WOW, what a completely irresponsible generalization.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:55 AM
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6. Stupid is as stupid does.....rules for driver no common sense for spectators.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:30 PM
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9. This happened a few miles from me ...
Very tragic. My condolences to the families and friends of all involved.

:cry:
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:01 PM
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12. Truck's name is Misery, driver's name is Sloppy
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:28 PM
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14. The excitement for spectators is being close to the track.
I'm not sure if anything needs to be done.

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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:51 PM
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15. Sorry, but if you taunt death you're likely to succumb to it.
Accidents happen, but you're just asking for trouble being about 10 feet away from a desert race track with poorly controlled vehicles going 80+ miles per hour. This stupid race is tantamount to having people standing on the side of the highway cheering the I-95 traffic between NYC and New Haven.

J
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 05:40 AM
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16. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often
Watch those rally races from Europe.

People step out into the road, in front of the oncoming cars, snap a few pictures, and jump back out of the way.



Of course the real Darwin Award winners are the ones who stand on the outside of the curves to watch the races.



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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 05:52 AM
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17. Found the MySpace page of the girl that died, she was big in to trucks:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 12:04 PM
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21. I read about the victims in the local fishwrap this morning. They were all in their early 20s.
Such a waste of life.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:34 AM
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18. What OTHER 'Sporting Event" can claim 8 dead in one contest? Does the
Colesseum ring a bell?

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 11:21 AM
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20. 83 spectators died in a 1955 race disaster at Le Mans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955_Le_Mans_disaster

One of many auto racing disasters in which spectators were killed en masse.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 12:23 PM
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22. 318 people are killed and another 500 injured
in riots at National Stadium after Argentina beats Peru in an Olympic qualifying match. The pandemonium breaks out when the referee disallows a Peruvian goal in the final two minutes. May 24, 1964 - Lima, Peru;

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/world/news/2000/07/09/stadium_disasters_ap/

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:15 AM
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27. And the Absurd Comparison Award for the day goes to activa8tr! (nt)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:48 AM
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19. THis is called thinning the herd.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 01:50 PM
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24. We have a similar thing going on at a beach near here. Pismo beach dunes
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 01:51 PM by county worker
is a mad house on the weekends. Off road vehicles of all types running over and through the dunes. People get killed by being hit by the moving vehicles. I think there were two deaths so far this year.

One of the problems for the locals is the sand and dust kicked up all day long. From a distance it looks like a sand storm.

It is very popular. I'm not into it but many are. On 101 Frwy on weekends you'll see the pickups with a couple of quads or off road bikes and a camping trailer. The go to the beach, set up and drive all over the dunes until the gas runs out.

I've been to the "rock pile" were the truck accident happened. I use to go there about once a month on the weekends in the 80's. No races back then.
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