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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:47 PM
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US contractor bought Afghan policemen drugs, little boys, cable reveals
Source: Raw Story

The Afghanistan interior minister was so concerned about an incident where DynCorp, a US contractor charged with training Afghan police, bought drugs and paid for young "dancing boys" that he asked the US embassy to work to "quash" the story, a secret US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks indicates.

In Afghan society, "dancing boys" are little boys dressed as girls, commonly abused and kept by some men as possessions.

As Joel Brinkley reported for SFGate.com, many Afghan Pashtun tribal men take boys age 9 to 15 as lovers. The US State Department recently called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.
"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/contractor-bought-afghan-policemen-drugs-boys-cable-reveals/



Nice to see our tax dollars are going to such a good cause: drugs and child rape.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:51 PM
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1. The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan
This is on FRONTLINE (PBS). You can watch it here if you care to:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/view/

Very sad if you had not guessed already.

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:59 PM
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4. ty
Really pathetic.

I am surprised that this episode is on the PBS website. That Frontline special was on PBS only for just brief a time - versus some of their other specials on Afghanistan that were more widely aired. I imagine there was some pressure from the government not to run it much.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:08 PM
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8. it has been there for a few months
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 04:09 PM by CountAllVotes
When it first appeared on PBS' website, it was so jammed with web traffic that you couldn't watch it.

After a few weeks the rush to watch it died down and I finally had the opportunity to view it.

Whenever I am looking for something to view outside of the teevee (which is all too often, believe me), I always go to pbs.org and surf around the various categories looking for something that may be interesting.

And then I found this. :wow:

Very sick - these men running these prostitution rings and to think that many have sons of their own the same age! Too bad this is something that is illegal yet ignored, much like the rest of what goes on in Afghanistan it seems to me. :(

:dem:

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:12 PM
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9. CATAMITES
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:42 PM
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12. um, what?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:12 AM
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26. Little Butt Boys
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:51 PM
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2. In the US, we call them "congressional interns". n/t
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:52 PM
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3. That is some seriousaly fucked up shit.
I wonder if it still went on under the Soviets?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:45 PM
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13. afghan pederasty is as old as their hills
and Karzai is a known pederast.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:51 PM
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22. Why is he still there?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 01:50 PM
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27. Because he's OK over there, and it's part of their culture.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 01:53 PM by crikkett
I think the 'hoopla' of a boy dancing for foreigners is that they know that most of the world will is not accepting of the practice & if it were even more out in the open than it is now, it'd be really embarrassing.

It's one thing to beat down your women, but entirely another to screw little boys. Right?
:sarcasm:
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:42 AM
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25. while i know nothing of karzai's personal perversions, your afghan comment is right on the mark.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 12:48 AM by marasinghe
while working in dubai, back in the late '70s, many of my younger male south asian colleagues had personal anecdotes of being solicited for sex - by pathan cab drivers & construction workers from afghanistan & the north west frontier provinces of pakistan; not to mention local dubai arabs. while the sexist culture of fundamentalist islam bears much of the blame, the penchant for pederasty may, possibly, go way back to alexander's conquest of the region.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 02:10 PM
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28. I heard it first from David Byrne
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:00 PM
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5. K&R
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:06 PM
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6. ->For those interested in this story I have a useful little addendum in regards to how WikiLeaks....
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 04:46 PM by Poll_Blind
...helps us identify the filter that our media is put through. In this case, after reading the article linked to by the OP or after reading this story from New York Magazine, I want to show you how the Washington Post reported Dyncorp's mea culpa after getting busted for this in 2009.

This is a great example of how a news story is filtered.

From the WaPo story Amid Reviews, DynCorp Bolsters Ethics Practices, look how the facts were filtered/distorted:
One effort to train Afghan civilian police has drawn attention from the State Department's inspector general following incidents of questionable management oversight, including one instance in which expatriate DynCorp employees in Afghanistan hired a teenage boy to perform a tribal dance at a company farewell party and videotaped the event.

--snip--

Ebner said the company also had investigated the incident involving the youth, who he said was 17 when he performed a tribal dance at the party. "We took appropriate disciplinary actions as a result of what we felt was managerial poor judgment," he said.

--snip--

At least two videos were shot of the dancing at the farewell party in April at a DynCorp base in Kunduz, in northeastern Afghanistan, according to DynCorp employees who have seen copies. One version, according to several who have seen it, showed some 15 DynCorp personnel egging on the dancer, who came from a nearby village and was dressed in jeans and a T-shirt, with a long scarf tied around his waist, as he moved around a DynCorp employee sitting on a single chair in a courtyard.

--snip--

"The whole event, hiring an Afghan dancer to perform for a non-Afghan audience, we felt could be seen as culturally insensitive and an example of poor judgment," Ebner said.


See how this was sanitized from the reality the cables show? Notice how somehow DynCorp works up all the furor to be about a 17 year old boy, dressed in a t-shirt and jeans (not dressed like a girl, wearing makeup), performing a "tribal dance" and that the whole reason it's supposedly so distressing is because it was an "Afghan dancer performing for a non-Afghan audience"?

PB

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:43 PM
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16. +1
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 06:44 PM
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18. Poll-Blind
I think Cynthia McKinney asked Rumsfield about DynCorp's sex trafficking etc. in a public hearing. It was the only time that I ever saw him at a loss for words.

Thank you for showing the clean up process.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 07:03 PM
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19. When I was younger, I remember meeting with people who I considered...
...very radical. They would say things like "The whole political game is rigged" and "the media is sanitized" and things like that. And while I mostly agreed, there was an inner conflict because I really wasn't sure I was able to accept such broad-brush indictments on the quality of truth in our society.

Well, as I got older I read and read and read and I started to see examples of how the game is rigged, echoed most recently on our own Senate floor a day or so ago. Examples like the story I detail in my previous post are one in a large and troubling heap of examples of that filtering process.

So those "radicals" aren't so radical anymore. More like observant!

That question McKinney asked wasn't the only question she posed which made many uncomfortable. And they made her pay for it.

PB
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:07 PM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:21 PM
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39. Was this some of the stuff that McKiney was asking Rumsfeld about?????
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:14 PM
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10. no wonder our Empire's apparatus is in such a panic to cover all this up
n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:23 PM
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40. Doubt this is the iceberg they're worried about ..... disgusting as it is!!!
This is what the rise of the right brings -- perversion --

sexual slavery -- women and children --

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:30 PM
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11. How dare Assange expose this!
:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 07:08 PM
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20. Clearly, he must be stopped!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:30 PM
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14. "the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law"
Well, no. The problem is letting psychopaths run around Afghanistan unchecked and with immunity.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 05:39 PM
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37. I agree
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:41 PM
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15. I'm sure many of our elite here buy/rent their own dancing boys, too. nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:55 PM
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23. however, in this country that's called child sex abuse, punishable by law
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:58 PM
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17. When these boys grow up, they will hate us
Because of our freedoms, not the liberties we took.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:37 PM
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21. K&R! n/t
PB
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:22 PM
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24. Anybody read Kite Runner
they go to the orphanges and just grab any kid they want

and yes the boys are raped

the story is about the Taliban and the Soviets
but now its the Americans
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 05:39 PM
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36. Yup
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:26 PM
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42. Grabbing the boys from the orphanages ....
and raping them --

Now THIS is a sexual issue I can only hope the right wing Puritans pay a

little attention to!! Wanna bet?


Ugh!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 02:12 PM
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29. k&R
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 02:21 PM
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30. doesn't Islam forbid homosexuality? Dear god...what a convoluted
country and religion.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 05:38 PM
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35. Catholicism forbids homosexuality too, and yet it didn't stop priests.
Homosexuality is hardly related to pederasty/pedophilia.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:27 PM
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43. There are no homosexuals in Afghanistan ... !!!
:evilgrin:
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 02:55 PM
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31. Isn't It Fitting.....
That the people (men) who who go on ad nauseum about dirty Queers in this country, and the World over are such sewer dwelling hypocrites time after time.....


The same people in our government that just can't allow Queers to serve openly in the US military (even though most of the World do) accepts: "US State Dept. called ownership of Afghan 'dancing boys' a 'culturally sanctioned form of male rape".....
(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/contractor-bought-afghan-policemen-drugs-boys-cable-reveals)


You just can't make this shit up! What über polluted, grubby, and depraved freaks..... and for the teabaggers lurking... your guys are helping this process along.......



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:17 PM
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32. DynCorp has earned a reputation for trafficking in the human sex-trade.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:24 PM
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41. Thank you --
will try to take a look at it later --

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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 05:02 PM
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33. Julian Assange is a Menace. How will the US Be able to continue these types of loving, necessary
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 05:03 PM by TheWatcher
crimes if we allow this Danger To Humanity to run around amok?

GUARDS!!!!! SEIZE HIM!!!!!!!!

THE US' ABILITY TO RAPE, MURDER, LOOT, AND STEAL IS AT STAKE!!!!!!

NATIONAL SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111


:crazy:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 04:55 PM
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38. LOL
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 05:35 PM
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34. Lovely
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:34 AM
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44. Notice that the rocket-powered Anti-Wikileaks brigades
are nowhere to be found in this thread.
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