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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:40 PM Original message |
PM has betrayed me: Assange |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a little late to play the "victim" card. He did what he did and now he's gonna have to live |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How is that a 'victim' card? |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If he didn't know what was gonna happen, he's not all that bright after all. He took on the |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. I think most Australians are aware of how our govt sucks up to the US.. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I don't have an opinion one way or another about the Australian government or what Australian |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Fail. Our rights don't come with an egg timer. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
78. "He Took On" ???? |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. he is only calling it to our attention nt |
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matt819 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
92. Wow |
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Wabbajack_ (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
139. It's never wrong to complain about overbearing goverment actions |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
159. He isn't surprised |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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paulkienitz (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
188. what kind of blame-the-victim crap is this? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #188 |
233. Oh so he's a victim now? |
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paulkienitz (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #233 |
267. It shows nothing of the kind. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #188 |
253. Wow; not a well constructed strawman. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
199. Where does he seem "surprised?" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
203. You ignored Violet's points. Posting your unsupported opinion 3X does not = making a point |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
122. What the Wikileaks have demonstrated is that a lot of governments, including the U.S. do NOT have |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Knowing that something is going to happen |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Perhaps he does not consider Australia to be a vassal state |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
142. Is he whining or simply stating the facts? |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Thank you!! Aussie/American in Fl here. n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. From Burleigh Head? I love it there! |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yes lovely area! Indeed!! |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. It is always a surprise when we realize the US dictates policy all |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
90. And decides what its citizens may know or not know. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. Exactly .... this is about keeping Wikileaks info from the public ... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
126. You are being too selective, it isn't just the U.S., it is a governments around the world who want |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
130. "Our" policies make us look more and more like an evil empire every stinkin' day. |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
166. The big surprise is that more than a few people accept it! |
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Moonbat2 (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:57 PM Original message |
the entire world |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. So Assange is a "parasite?" eh? What about the blood-soaked monsters he's exposing? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
91. Moonbat2, can you please identify three facts you learned from the Wikileaks |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Well I for one am glad these things are being exposed. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #127 |
183. A lot of it seems like gossip. The credit card and frequent flyer thing got me. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #119 |
135. Was the German "mole" outed by name? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #135 |
213. Great post. Thanks. |
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donquijoterocket (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #135 |
257. yeahbut |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
106. "Hero" is the word I'm hearing .... and benefit to democracy .... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
148. Yeah, whenever I hear the word "parasite" I instantly think of Wikileaks - |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
152. I think you made a wrong turn |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
214. Not the entire world. Just a few folks who got leaned on and right leaning Americans. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
258. And are you that piper; or just a wannabe? |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
141. Sounds like the truth to me. You know, real life and how it is? n/t |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
206. Same here Violet Crumble-Gillard & McClelland have gone from heroes |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Jesus....Why is Australia serving him to the US? For WHAT CRIME did he commit in Australia? n/t |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
131. the global elites serve each other. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Not really sure how this is playing the victim. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. What did he think would happen? Either he's a brave truth teller or a naive idiot. I have no |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I think you may be missing his point? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
94. Well, it may not be a matter of |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. Agree ... as it begins to look like US is more than ruffled at info coming out ..... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. I think it's the thought of the same thing being done to the financial world... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
162. We won't know until we see what does come out this time around .... |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #94 |
153. A truly scary thought if true. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
232. Why the hell does his government have to "protect him" for |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
50. I can't believe you think he's not entitled to support from his own |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
66. No, it's not either. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
83. You "have no problem" with what he did, but support his being persecuted for it anyway? Incoherent. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
108. Why would he expect his own country to abandon him to US "kill the messenger" ...? |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
147. Well, that's just it... I believe he DID anticipate a number of responses... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
161. Really? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
210. Whether or not he anticipated the response is irrelevant. Whether Australia is |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Yes, much more like simply telling the truth |
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Moonbat2 (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. yeah |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. That says a lot about |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Sheesh, how dare he behave like a journalist. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
109. So true -- K&R .... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. He is not the victim, we the people of US are the victims. Our |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
98. +1 nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
111. +1 -- |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. By that logic, we should never value any of our constitutional rights |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Huh? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. But it is never too soon to blame the "victim" |
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border_town (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. I don't understand how he is playing 'victim" |
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howard112211 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. So you are outing yourself as an enemy of the concept of free press? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Calling things by their name is not victimhood. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Ahem .. knee jerk |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Who's playing the "victim card" here? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. So are victims of repression in other nations and the ACLU also "whining"? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. He still has lots more to do, and we, the people, suffer from the fact |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. So, telling the truth about what's going on is 'playing the victim card?' ROFL! |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
120. and who picked the fight to invade a country based on a lie, and based on that lie we got the |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
128. But he's not being prosecuted for revealing secrets. |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #128 |
192. You have evidence he didn't commit them?, i'm sure Assange and Sweden both would like to see it n/t |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #192 |
238. Assange has not been charged with rape in either case. In one case, I have not heard any |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #238 |
264. and I think if Assange is the hero many claims he is |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #192 |
261. See that is where you have your head in the sand |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. sorry to tell ya this, but i actually believe in the swedish justice system, so yes |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
217. Excellent point (though I don't know if he is innocent or not). |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #217 |
246. We have to presume innocence. The prosecutor bears the burden of proof. |
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Iliyah (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
167. He's ok |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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nyy1998 (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
236. Agreed |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. And the space aliens are after him |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Dumb. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. LOL. Thanks for that one. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Why? It's stupid. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. From my point of view, Assange took on the world. He has to live with it now. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. He angered the Americans. That's not the world... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Actually, he started with Somalia and Kenya |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. That's not the world, let alone 'powerful forces'... |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. The Australian government is now, and has been since b*sh |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. I was hoping it would have improved since the end of the Howard govt... |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
150. Read this: |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
81. I take it you didn't follow the link.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I did. Trying to pretend that Australia isn't sucking up to the US on this is pathetic... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Projection is a dangerous thing. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
116. Then I suggest you don't engage in it... |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
117. We know what you "think" boppers |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. I actually don't as I haven't seen any other posts from them about Assange... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #125 |
221. Very fair of you. Sometimes, a poster's posts have such a consistent POV that |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #97 |
191. No, he's pissing off the political leaders of many nations. |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #97 |
211. Wrong-he isn't "pissing off many nations"..just the spineless politicians |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #81 |
190. It is the political leaders of those countries that are upset. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:14 AM Response to Reply #190 |
197. You make an interesting point. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Your opinion is not "humble"... |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
93. This may come as a great surprise but not everyone agrees with what Assange did and not everyone |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
112. You really want to wait and see before judgement? |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #112 |
124. Aren't we just having a little hissy fit. LOL.. Didn't mean to trample on your hero worship. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. "hero worship" |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. I believe if you read the comment you will see that I say YOUR hero worship, not mine. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. I know you can stay on task... |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. LOL. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
154. :-^-) |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #136 |
149. I know that. I am not hero worshiping anyone. That's the point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #136 |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
133. I just want you to explain why you think that irrelevant joke is funny. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #93 |
219. Is that why you keeping posting YOUR one opinion over and over? |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
241. The actions that Assange made available to the world to read were made by YOUR |
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DFLforever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I go with your second choice |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. "humble" does not mean what you think it does... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. What does that have to do with belief in space aliens? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
102. so, from your point of view, anyone who heroically defends The People from The Power DESERVES |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
163. He's a smart player |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
204. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
218. How many times do you think it's okay to post the same, irrelevant, unsupported opinion on one |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
95. I wonder what Australian law prohibits publishing documents |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Did any of them look like Dick Cheney? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. It shows there really is no place to hide |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. I was hoping she might be an improvement over the last |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. +1 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. I still can't understand.... |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You are using your brain. You will be flagged for sure.... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Some countries, such as Australia have standing extradition treaty with the US. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. It's still Bullshit. n/t |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
100. So, are the documents "property"? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
160. Not my doing, I merely predict |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #160 |
176. You are probably right in that respect. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #100 |
209. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #100 |
224. Maybe. Please see also Reply 229. |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
110. Gerald Ford?????? I don't recall voting for him or the other guy. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
222. Frankly, I did not bother to read all of that treaty, but my eyes did hit |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #222 |
243. That clause seems like a huge catch-all to me. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. He broke a Swedish law pertaining to the use of condoms during consensual intercourse... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. We don't even know that that happened. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Amazing, isn't it? |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
155. Well, anyway , we live in a totalitarian state. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
132. Yep. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
212. Deleted message |
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
195. It's the Law of |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
220. The U.S. can prosecute non-citizens for violating our laws, unless the law limits |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
262. How can Spanish courts investigate and charge US citizens |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
266. Sort of like the stupidity about how Americans can no longer |
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hugo_from_TN (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
270. Espionage against the US is illegal and you don't have to be a citizen to be prosecuted. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #270 |
271. "Espionage" |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. That does really stink... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes and Australia just had it's own supposedly 'left' leaning government |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Yr right. That's exactly what it feels like.... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. Imagine how I feel. *smh* =( |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
251. Left is the new Right all over the world :( |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #251 |
269. Isnt that the sad and scary truth. I refuse to just roll over tho!! n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
252. There's NOTHING more dangerous |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. There are probably reciprocal agreements regarding lawbreaking and release of state secrets |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. except that he hasn't broken any laws |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
226. Respectfully, do you know every U.S. and Australian law? If not, on what are you basing your claim? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. Which is why he isn't in AU. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Assange hasn't broken any US laws, though |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Yes he has. The various National Security Acts make unauthorized release of classified information |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. No, he hasn't. Otherwise the US would be going after The Guardian as well..... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
156. Hasn't issued a warrant yet. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #156 |
227. "press usually has immunity to print classified documents that the government has lost control of" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #77 |
225. For starters, possibly the Espionage Act and/or 18 U.S.C Section 798. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
240. That does not relate to the press and especially foreign press. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
223. We have criminal laws about receiving stolen property and we have laws about classified info |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. What lawbreaking? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. See my #65 above. If you do the same thing he did to the UK, France, etc., you will |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. But he didn't. If he decapitated someone, he'd go to prision. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. What do you mean what is my point? What he did is a felony according to the National Security Acts |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Wrong. He published material someone else released. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. OK, watch what happens. n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
99. I don't think anyone here will be shocked to find governments will railroad people they find... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
101. Various legal authorities in the U.S. And around the world have questioned |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
157. I don't think they care if they can convict him. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
228. Please see Replies 225 and 227 |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. I did not know that having unprotected consensual sex is against National Security Acts... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
196. He's not a citizen of the USA, and our laws do not apply. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #196 |
234. Our laws do apply to non-citizens, unless they have diplomatic immunity. |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. He didnt remove the info off the computer and then hand it over. n/t |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. Are they are repressive and undemocratic? Well, you do have two right-wing leaders running things |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
43. LOL. I see your press is not much better than ours. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. The Age is one of the better ones... |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Wonderful visual example of the deliberate manipulation of so-called "news". |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Yup. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
103. Nice post. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. Hey. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
105. The Australian press is the greatest in the world |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. LOL. |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
121. John Pilger is another great Australian journalist. Fearless and brave. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #121 |
138. Another Australian censored in the United States. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #121 |
140. Deleted message |
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. There are often quite a few holes in Madsen's research. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #144 |
173. Truly hilarious! |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #173 |
194. It's not a conspiracy if the "Official Version of the Event" is more ludicrous than |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #144 |
247. ..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #140 |
229. Who said his mother was ditsy? Didn't she have a doctoral degree? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
129. K&R AND LOVE the pic of Nintjie! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
137. More likely the PTB threatened her. |
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Casandra (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
145. A different perspective |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
151. the phrase drama queen comes to mind |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #151 |
165. The phrase savvy survivor comes to my mind |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Deleted message |
Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Neither Tav nor Assange are drama queens... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #171 |
177. But we are both whistleblowers |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. No, I don't see it as a bad thing either.... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #177 |
184. whistleblowers are one thing |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #184 |
235. All claims that have been responded to on this thread. Read the responses to all of OregonBlue's |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #151 |
170. Maybe to you, but not to people who care about the rights of Australian citizens... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #151 |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
158. Sydney Morning Herald have put it a different way: "Australia has abandoned me" |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Based on the reaction to the way David Hicks was treated... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #174 |
180. Mr Assange does have a sharp tongue and a good eye for where to aim it. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #180 |
185. I think anger makes the aim even better... |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
172. Don't know why anyone is shocked by the international |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #172 |
237. The issue is whether Australia is too quick to punish its own citizens and |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
179. I can see way he's angry |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #179 |
186. Exactly n/t |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
181. Assange can't have it both ways. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #181 |
187. He most definately can expect that his own country won't refuse him entry... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #181 |
198. He has gotten awards for it. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #181 |
231. Yeah, I wonder if he'll have the guts for that. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
182. Hey maybe Roman Polanski has a free room Assange can rent(nt) |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #182 |
193. I don't get it. n/t |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #193 |
248. There's nothing to get. n/t |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #248 |
250. That's for sure. n/t |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
189. deposed PM Gough Whitlam apparently let these Aussie journalists get killed: |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
200. Supreme Court Solicitor Tells PM No Illegality by Assange: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #200 |
216. Deleted message |
treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
230. If he violated Australian laws, tough shit |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #230 |
239. Accusing Assange of being a coward is downright ludicrous. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. If he were brave he would face up to the charges! |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #242 |
255. There are no charges. He hasn't broken any Australian law! |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #239 |
260. It's not an unreasoned assertion. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #230 |
254. He didn't violate any Australian laws. |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
244. I'm with Alex Baldwin. If Assange is to be the subject of arrest and prosecution, |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #244 |
245. That won't happen as the US has "selective" prosecutions. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
249. Stockholm syndrome |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #249 |
256. +1 nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
259. the whole thing is SURREAL. OK, so the US is going to hell in a bucket, fast, |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #259 |
272. The fall of the ROMAN EMPIRE....but why the phuck turn fascist. |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
265. For me, the larger issue here is whether governments have the right |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
268. Rapist...people shot in the back of the head....China! |
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