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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:37 AM Original message |
Venezuela's Chavez blames capitalism for deluges |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. He's right, of course. That's why Copenhagen was a joke |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah. China puts pure pixie dust into the atmosphere. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Now it's MY fault? |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. And the "pixie dust" surely isn't capitalist "pixie dust". |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Good point. |
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Ruperto31 (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. It is capitalism in the Chinese enterprise zone that pollutes the air. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Straw person season is over. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. "WikiLeaks: China's Politburo a cabal of business empires" |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Lead .. hell we don't even give good lip service to the problem. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Quite accurate, all that coal and oil, all that "cheap" energy. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
7. Of course, he's correct ... and good for him for telling the truth -- |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. He could put a serious dent in the problem by stopping the sale of oil. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Crickets - the backing track of hypocrisy nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. LOL! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Using oil is the polluter, not selling it. Since no one wanted to listen to Jimmeh, |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. I'm not sure that's a valid point there. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. US/CIA is already trying to assassinate him ... We'd probably declare war on his country !! |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Because there were never any mudslides before capitalism. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The topic was climate disruption not mudslides |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Wow. An even bigger straw person than Dreamer Tatum's. |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. ... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Denier? Dude, if you make only about 600 posts here per year, why waste a post? |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Funny what people will read into a minimalist post. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "this thread has great potential for levity, nothing more..." |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. So you want to go back to what, barter or potlatch? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Let's move to a system which furthers economic democracy ... |
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webDude (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. HAARP? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Well, I prefer VIOOLIN, but okay. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. Well go ahead. Blame God instead. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I blame fossil fuels. Say, what's Venezuela's chief export, again? Oh yeah. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What's hilarious about your criticism of Venezuela |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yeah, exporting pollutes wicked lots. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. how about it's not as simple as "capitalism" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Did Chavez say pollution was the sole and exclusive cause of climate change? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. Capitalism or socialism can ruin the environment, but... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Think you mean TOTALITARIAN socialism ... such as USSR practiced? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I disagree with that assessment. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. So USSR wasn't a dictatorship? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. I'll answer. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Capitalism is a tool of imperialism ... of course ... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
20. Chavez is an ass. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. Stop the presses!!! Venezuela's Chavez blaims capitalism for ______________. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Anyone who understands capitalism's exploitation of nature .... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. He should stop selling oil in order to reduce emissions |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
32. Milli Vanilli spoke about the causes years ago. nt |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because the old USSR and eastern block non-capitalist societies were completely green. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Whether capitalism or totalitarian communism ... both pounded down natural resources .... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. He's right... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is why they hate him. Because he tells the truth. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hugo has a point.... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. it is the rainy season n/t |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
51. Capitalism, Socialism, Communism... |
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