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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:49 AM Original message |
WikiLeaks releases global sites vital to US |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. LOL! |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. if it has always been public knowledge as you claim |
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xTx (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Is it 'public knowledge' or not? |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
55. Yes, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Yep. n/t |
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xTx (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
47. Proof? nt |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. BBC: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. In Feb 2009 this administration was just getting started |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It raises the question, who is actually going to benefit from this release? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Really? I'd think this list would be very valuable for people who follow |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Even though it is interesting news, I don't find this information beneficial. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Seriously, there has to be a line somewhere. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I disagree with that. Why shouldn't you be interested |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. I will be waiting for the "Google Findings"... |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
57. I'll be waiting for a coherent explanation, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. I actually haven't said what I think about reasonable confidentiality. |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Exactly... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
61. The ultimate goal or purpose |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. While I agree with you that there is a lot that goes on among those in |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. The CI/KR list in this cable is that of 2008. The cable requests updates to that list. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Not very. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Have you looked at the cable? |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Yes. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So, it was a complete waste of time all those embassies carrying out the numerous assessments then? |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The list might be valid for an unlimited super power war, but not for |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That may be your opinion. I'm not so sure... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Remember, this is the lowest classification, meaning about 3 million people have authorized access. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I don't remember seeing any of the other cables saying this... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. And? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. And that would mean it was more restricted than the other cables. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Nope. It's been reported that 3 million have access to stuff classified secret, not to "some of |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It's been reported by who? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. On TV--and good luck |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I heard it on TV, too. And I suspect you're like me and don't believe everything they tell us. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Um, and your source to contradict me was CNN? So, neither of us has a reliable source then. Fine. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No, I I'm not trying to contradict you. I said I heard what you were stating as a fact on CNN. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I made nothing personal, but whatever. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. This probably should not have been published. |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. JDP, take a look around you and I'm willing to wager that within say a 25 mile radius you will be |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. I'm in LA. I can come up with a lot more than five. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I think the WTC was chosen for its symbolism, not its vulnerability to planes |
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itzallanillusion (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
29. Its NOT that bad.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Or him showing the U.S. he has stuff a little more cerebral than "Gaddafi is always seen with his |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Excellent points. |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
30. Seems like that would be pretty easy for someone to figure out on their own. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. There's no point employing anyone in any embassy to do this then, in that case. n/t |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Well, if the higher-ups are too busy or too lazy to do their own Googling. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. False. The point is, it's easier to ask many someones, who probably have |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. This has informed any anti-American malcontent what America definitively sees as: "Critical... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. If Assange's goal is to impede internal communications within the government |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. If Assange is playing with people's lives to put into practice his theory |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Who will die if he doesn't do this? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You think Assange has the right to make that decision? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. He's not "deciding who lives or dies" |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. "Who will die if he doesn't do this? Different people, that's all." That's what you said. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. We have no way of knowing if anyone will die as a result of what Assange is doing. However... |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I wasn't asking about how you define "the government conspiracy" |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Regarding end games |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Sorry, that doesn't do it. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I think we can end this quite quickly. I am troubled by this release, you're not. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. Excellent! This is right in line with Assange's intended effect. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Oddly, I find myself thinking this makes sense. -nt |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Thank you... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. The Guardian's investigations' editor has an interesting comment |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
62. WooHoo! |
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