Biden urges Dems to embrace Obama's tax-cut plan

[The Northerner]

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Tuesday urged congressional Democrats to quickly embrace a contentious tax cut plan that President Barack Obama cut with Republicans, arguing that the rank and file need to move on to other issues before the party loses control of the House in January.

White House aides said Vice President Joe Biden will ask Democratic lawmakers to swallow their objections to the administration's proposed compromise with the GOP when he attends a closed luncheon with senators at the Capitol. Obama's plan would extend Bush-era tax cuts for all Americans, including the richest, while also extending unemployment benefits and reducing payroll taxes for a year.

Democratic leaders gave a cool reception to Obama's proposals but did not rule them out. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the compromise plan shows that Democrats want to help low- and middle-income workers while the GOP's chief concern is the wealthiest Americans.

"We will continue discussions with the president and our caucus in the days ahead," Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement issued 18 hours after Obama laid out his plan.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gAecC39gAgXs0EgibRVaGxe-VqqQ?docId=dc2306522c454ed3a08cc10f8bcfc2cd

[Skittles]

1. SUCK IT UP!!! PLEASE SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!!!

[okieinpain]

16. funny. n/t.

[mr_smith007]

2. After reading

about the first $5 million being exempted from the estate tax, 35% after that, reading about keeping taxes at an irresponsibly low 35% for the wealthy, laying the groundwork to gut SS by getting ppl used to the 4.2% rate for it and on and on...I would respectfully urge Biden to embrace my $%&&@.

[okieinpain]

17. sorry, I don't think 35% for the rich is irresponsibly low. n/t.

[mr_smith007]

24. According to a study

done by the CBPP last year, if the estate tax exemption was placed at $3.5 million and above that taxed at 45%, then we would lose over $600 Billion in revenue over 9 years compared to allowing it to go back to its original form. In this current proposal, the exemption is raised to $5 million and taxed at 35% after that so we can safely say the lost revenue would be higher. If you don't think that a loss of close to $800 billion in revenue over 9 years is irresponsible then you must be a supply sider and that is a whole other set of data that you need to revisit.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=455

[okieinpain]

28. i didn't think we punished people in this country because they

were wealthy. I think we need a flat rate and the government learns to live on what it takes in. wait did I just say that. hmmmm.

[mr_smith007]

32. Punish? WTF are you talking about!

The wealthy payer lower income taxes now than they have in US history. How the hell do you think they became wealthy? Because of the US economic system, that's how. As Warren Buffet put it, if he were born in Bangladesh, he would not be a billionaire. This isn't about punish, it's about what you OWE!

Taxes pay for that system, you know, the military to protect our sovereignty, roads and infrastructure for transport and trade, public funding for education and higher ed to educate a populace for businesses to hire, to pay for court systems to enforce contracts and prosecute those that do harm to business, police/fire/rescue to protect brick and mortar places of business, the myriad of govt regulators to protect investments, food and water supplies, factory conditions and on and on and on.

We tax the rich and everyone else to help sustain the very economic and political system that allows them to become rich. The more you earn in this system, the more you owe the system, progressive taxation is how we keep the progress train moving. The wealthy do not make their millions in a vacuum due to their own hard work and innovation. They earn it because they live in a system that is maintained by tax dollars.

You need to take that "punish" crap back to Rushlimbaugh.com and shove it up his fat, opiate-numbed ass. No disrespect, how yas doin.

[okieinpain]

36. you're exactly correct, exactly correct. I just don't think you should

tax a person over a certain amount, I don't think you should take more then 35 - 45 percent of anyone's money no matter how wealthy they are.

[bemildred]

34. Indeed correct, we punish people because they are poor.

If we need a flat rate tax, we need a flat rate income too.

[okieinpain]

38. agreed, but I don't think a hamburger cooker should get a

million dollars for cooking burgers, well unless that's what the owner wants to pay them.

[Luciferous]

3. Um, no.

[xchrom]

4. This from the guy who fucked the people with his

CC bankruptcy legislation.

He is credible at 1600 Pennsylvania but not with me
On this.

[closeupready]

7. That was my first thought, too. I like him, but I'm with you.

n/t

[Carolina]

10. he was never credible with me after Anita Hill

and he really lost all credibility with his IWR vote in 2002.

[madrchsod]

5. then he can embrace being a one term president and....

joining jimmy carter as a nice guy who did`t have a clue about what it takes to be a president.he`ll "retire" and make gobs of money for the rest of his life



and what about us? we will eek out an existence under years of republican oppression.

[Hardrada]

37. Eek is right but the Obama crowd scares me too!

[Poll_Blind]

6. Biden's doing his job. Well, at least the part where he echos the President.

Little else. Not sure what he can do right now that wouldn't throw the entire presidency into disarray. However, if President Obama continues on his course- I have no idea what that's going to do to the already tense situation between Congressional Democrats (the ones who still fight for the Left). Pelosi & Obama are trying to enforce a certain structure. I think this is going to cause a great deal of dissonance with the aforementioned Democrats.

2012? Who knows. Seems like if this keeps up the DCCC is going to be starving out the Left-leaning Democrats and putting out the food dish for as many conservative elements who'll come to the trough. They cut Grayson, don't be surprised if they go after other Lefty Democrats as we get closer to the next election.

PB

[digidigido]

8. Joe, go F yourself

[okieinpain]

29. wo, now joe is evil.n/t.

[newscott]

9. Hooray for the rich!

[wordpix]

11. add the $9 Billion O just asked Congress for, for nuke reactors & GE, Toshiba etc. who build them

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9712656

URGENT!

DOE YET AGAIN SEEKING $9 BILLION FOR NEW REACTOR LOANS

FOR THE LAST TIME THIS YEAR--TELL CONGRESS: NO TAXPAYER BAILOUTS FOR GIANT NUCLEAR CORPORATIONS!

December 7, 2010

Dear Friends,

This morning we learned that the Obama Administration is asking Congress, as one of its last acts during this lame duck session, to sneak in $9 Billion more for taxpayer loans for new nuclear reactor construction as part of the upcoming "Continuing Resolution" to keep the government funded.

This is at least the fourth attempt this year to increase the money available for new reactor "loan guarantees" (actually, these would be loans from the government's Federal Financing Bank)--despite the fact that the Department of Energy has not been able to spend the money it currently has available for such loans--it still has $10.2 Billion in unspent money available!

This money would go to some of the world's largest corporations; companies like Electricite de France, Toshiba directly, Westinghouse (owned by Toshiba), General Electric, and so on. When will Congress learn that taxpayers don't want to subsidize giant corporations any longer, especially when they want to build dirty and dangerous new nuclear reactors in our communities!

With your help, we beat back the first three attempts to increase funding for this program. This one will be the hardest to beat yet, since the Administration's request is wrapped up in a larger package. So we need the loudest outcry possible: Please send a letter to your Senators and Representative now.

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In other news, the Obama Administration is also promoting nuclear power today at something called the "Third Way" summit on a nuclear future. DOE Secretary Steven Chu and White House energy chief Carol Browner both have been touting nuclear power this morning to this self-appointed group led by outgoing Senator George Voinovich (R-OH) and Delaware Democrat Tom Carper. Among other travesties, Chu reportedly supported the idea of including nuclear power as part of a "Clean Energy Standard" that would replace a "Renewable Energy Standard" focused only on genuinely clean energy sources. Here is an early report from this summit. This notion that nuclear power is somehow "clean" is something we will have to fight hard next Congress.

In response to this "summit," Marc Cooper of the Vermont Law School prepared a new fact sheet titled: Why the Nuclear Power Industry is Dead in the Water Today in the U.S. You'll find some useful information here, and we encourage you to forward it to your local media, especially anyone who may be covering this "Third Way" summit.

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[Dappleganger]

12. Embrace fucking the poor and unemployed?

FU

[defendandprotect]

13. Biden has also been urging Israel to ATTACK Iran ... been doing that for a year or more now!!

Biden has been repeatedly saying that "Israel would be justified in doing so!" --

This is another Democrat we should be targeting to get out of the administration --

and replace him with a liberal Democrat!!

Just what we need, Joe -- more warmongering?

And, thanks for Clarence Thomas!

[Mosaic]

30. replace him with a liberal Democrat!!

Spot on!

[hay rick]

14. Embrace?

Somebody forgot to bring the flowers.

[roxiejules]

15. Not a surprise

Biden is the former Senator from Delaware, corporate haven to most of the credit card companies and majority of corporations. Sen. Joe Biden was one of the few Democrats who sided with credit-card companies that were trying to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/biden_and_son_friends_of_the_c.html

[Hardrada]

39. He is also a huge warmonger. Been in DC too long.

[markpkessinger]

18. Joe was sent on a damage control mission

The administration sent Joe Biden to the Hill to try to rally the troops and otherwise contain the damage from the President's disastrous deal. Joe's just doing his job, but somehow, I don't think he even believes the BS he's been asked to sell.

[julian09]

19. Dems who sat out the election

shouldn't be crying, they gave Obama a weak hand.

[bitchkitty]

20. In other news...

Everyone seems to be paying more attention to Julian Assange's arrest.

I really don't know why I'm so bitterly disappointed. You'd think I"d get used to it by now.

[bc3000]

21. Other Issues? How much will we have to give up in "deals" for those issues?

[ut oh]

22. it's no longer because of 'us'...

that the Dems are going to lose control of the house, it's because of the BS GOP placating they are doing.

Biden should just shut his yap now...

[peace13]

23. Go sell crazy somewhere else Joe, we're all full up here.

'As Good As It Gets' nails it again! I have tried my hardest to stick with you guys but I am over the top now. You own the cuts, the debt and the stomp on the back to millions of middle class Americans. May Bernie stop you in your tacks. He is our last hope!

[krispos42]

25. Fuck that.

Let them expire completely so we CAN PAY FOR THE EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE

[tekisui]

26. Thank you, no.

[Dr.Phool]

27. Go back to MBNA Joe.

[lunatica]

31. I wonder if Biden even put up an objection

I like to think he did, but I'm not holding my breath.

[somone]

33. Nice try, Joe

[frylock]

35. and i, for one, welcome our new insect overlords